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    • AvatarMike Schilling in reply to InMD on Cornonavirus Outbreak Causes MLB to Suspend GamesWho could have predicted that electing a pig-ignorant malignant narcissist was a bad idea?
    • AvatarStillwater in reply to Marchmaine on Harsh Your Mellow Monday: Your Premise Is Bad EditionIt's the end of it if you think the IC populists will control the party going forward. IF they don't, ICP antagonists will be well positioned to get feet into doors and hands into pockets.
    • AvatarJaybird in reply to Marchmaine on Harsh Your Mellow Monday: Your Premise Is Bad EditionOh jeez. I missed that. And there don't seem to be full games from the era on the youtube.
    • AvatarNorth in reply to Marchmaine on Harsh Your Mellow Monday: Your Premise Is Bad EditionI grant that neoliberal is a rather ambiguous term meaning different things to different people; but however one parses it the Democratic elite doesn’t universally fit the bill. They’re market friendly- not anti-capitalist; but they aren’t libertarians by any stretch of the imagination nor are they even in spitting distance of the same. That happens to describe a very large majority of the Democratic voting base. One certainly could say I’m wrong and that there’re big gaps that make the Dems dysfunctional in a way similar to the dysfunction of the GOP but I would expect them to be able to name specific examples. The left is pretty damn massive and unwieldy right now, spanning a huge spectrum of political real estate from the Never Trumpers on the right up to the Berniacs on the left who’re just barely willing to get with the program which leads to an odd situation where damn near no one is exactly delighted with the party and yet no one can honestly say it’s terrible enough to want to go somewhere else. And I’d readily grant there’s gonna be some knife fights once the particular unifying factor of Trump is out of the picture but, again, that’s just politics as normal; not the remarkable moment of crisis I see in the Republican camp.
    • AvatarSlade the Leveller in reply to Oscar Gordon on Harsh Your Mellow Monday: Your Premise Is Bad EditionThe great Mike Royko wrote a column 35 years ago anticipating this. https://www.chicagotribune.com/news/ct-xpm-1986-09-10-8603070573-story.html
    • AvatarSlade the Leveller in reply to Jaybird on Harsh Your Mellow Monday: Your Premise Is Bad EditionThey played games where both sides said that. Read into that what you will, but I, for one, am not looking forward to America becoming a banana republic.
    • AvatarMarchmaine in reply to Stillwater on Harsh Your Mellow Monday: Your Premise Is Bad EditionWell of course that. But if your path to power relies on the people behind the curtain jumping in front of the curtain to tell the ignorant populists that they are doing it wrong? That's not the start of something, it's the end of it.
    • AvatarMarchmaine in reply to North on Harsh Your Mellow Monday: Your Premise Is Bad EditionThe Democratic elite isn't dominated by market/neo liberals? Hmn... I suppose we'll have to parse 'elite' and 'dominated' and 'market' and 'neo liberal' to squeeze that into the box we'd like to squeeze it into... but I'm sure there's a way to parse it just so. But at any rate... no worries then; everyone in the coalition is happy with the direction and leadership. Especially once Trump is gone.
    • AvatarMarchmaine in reply to Jaybird on Harsh Your Mellow Monday: Your Premise Is Bad EditionYeah, but that's the Cup final... I remember the anthems during the finals... its the regular season games I can't remember. That's what made going to the finals as a kid so cool. And the Canadian one should always be in French.
    • AvatarMarchmaine in reply to The question on Harsh Your Mellow Monday: Your Premise Is Bad EditionThat's the point. None of us should know any of Biden's plans. Then we can all hope he's just like us.
    • AvatarLeeEsq in reply to Chip Daniels on Harsh Your Mellow Monday: Your Premise Is Bad EditionI think the New Theory of Republican politics is that government still doesn't work accept as a way to enforce reactionary White Protestant morality.
    • AvatarLeeEsq in reply to JS on Harsh Your Mellow Monday: Your Premise Is Bad EditionWe would be a vastly better place if the Republicans were a purely venal party that would do anything to get a vote. We aren't in that place. The Republican Party and many of its' voters believe that we can use our freedom-loving American spirit to override Covid-19. There is a meme they share of American soldiers invading Normandy on D-Day and a man in a mask hiding behind a coach. Like we can just power through this virus. Republicans also believe that if you cut off all the aid and force people back to work than the economy would mystically and magically rebound securing their re-election chances. They do not believe spending any government money on the people helps.
    • AvatarJaybird in reply to Saul Degraw on Harsh Your Mellow Monday: Your Premise Is Bad EditionThe New York Times has reported on Dick Uihlein being a funder: Critics have asked who is funding the site, since ad revenue alone wouldn’t be enough to sustain its staff of 14 and political websites often rely on wealthy donors for support. The Federalist has not disclosed its supporters, leading to criticism that it is not being transparent about its agenda. But according to two people with knowledge of its finances, one of its major backers is Dick Uihlein, the Midwestern packing supply magnate and Trump donor who has a history of giving to combative, hard-right candidates, like Roy S. Moore of Alabama, who make many Republicans squeamish. (After Mr. Moore was accused of assaulting underage girls in 2017, The Federalist ran an opinion piece that defended men who dated young women as a practice with a long history that was “not without some merit if one wants to raise a large family.”) Through a spokesman, Mr. Uihlein declined to comment. Of course, you should read the story for yourself and come to your own conclusions.
    • AvatarFreeman in reply to Chip Daniels on Making a Difference: How To Communicate About Using Masks for COVIDI just spent a week in a vacation cabin with fundie family, and I can confirm that you just hit the nail on the head without a single bit of exaggeration. They really, sincerely do believe all this crap and want everyone else to believe it too. They absolutely believe and stated point-blank that if Trump doesn't remain in office by hook or by crook that raging mobs will be coming after Christians. There is no way to penetrate the persecution fantasy. My eyes are sore from all the rolling, but it's all I could do - there's no reasoning with them.
    • AvatarJaybird on For Want of a President: On the British Parliament and the ExecutiveThe problem with Brexit is that so very many pieces of the stuff they were Brexiting from were never put up for a vote in the first place. The politicians were in charge of policy for the polity and everybody agreed to a Common Market in the 1970's. And then you've got a Single European Act which just makes sense and then there's the Schengen Agreement which required carve-outs to pass but, you have to understand, the cold war was at its height and compromises needed to be made. And then the Maastricht Treaty only had referendums from France, Denmark and Ireland. Huh. And then the Treaty of Amsterdam which didn't have a referendum. And, next thing you know, you're in a place that you didn't recognize having agreed to go to. Hey, my parents agreed to a common market. While I am 100% down with the idea that it is the job of government to make some hard decisions ("we're here to do a job, not keep a job", as Pelosi famously said), if you make enough decisions without asking "the people" first, you're going to find yourself in a place where your vision of the future and theirs have diverged. This is where "the consent of the governed" gets tricky. If you diverge far enough... then what? I think a Constitution would be a Capital idea. Write it down. Vote on it. Get a majority this time. Preferably a super one.
    • AvatarThe question in reply to Pinky on Harsh Your Mellow Monday: Your Premise Is Bad Edition"my country right or wrong" is where so many good people go wrong and just never managed to get turned around when you go down there. I mean if you're anything but a native American you're living on stolen land in America and you got to remember that we basically killed 95% of the existing pre landing population in the name of religious freedom and manifest destiny
    • AvatarThe question in reply to Marchmaine on Harsh Your Mellow Monday: Your Premise Is Bad Edition5 bucks if you can actually name any sort of Joe Biden's position that's actually leftist
    • AvatarThe question in reply to George Turner on Harsh Your Mellow Monday: Your Premise Is Bad EditionYou're right it's better when we have 10 hour poll lines and disenfranchise people because they happen to live in the poor neighborhoods. but are you saying that's why Trump votes by mail so he can vote for him Melania and all of his idiot children?
    • AvatarJ_A on For Want of a President: On the British Parliament and the ExecutiveOne further note about the British Constitution, and the Queen in Parliament Most other constitutional monarchies recognize the sovereignty of the people, and not that of the monarch, or of their parliament. As an example, Article 1 of the Spanish Constitution says: Spain is hereby established as a social and democratic State, subject to the rule of law, which advocates freedom, justice, equality and political pluralism as highest values of its legal system. National sovereignty belongs to the Spanish people, from whom all State powers emanate. The political form of the Spanish State is the Parliamentary Monarchy, Their constitutions then go on to establish the limits between the Executive and the Legislative branch. But in Britain, Executive and Legislative are merged into a single entity
    • AvatarSaul Degraw in reply to Chip Daniels on Harsh Your Mellow Monday: Your Premise Is Bad EditionCite on the Federalist funding? Younger conservatives like Ben Shapiro and Charlie Kirk perplex me because I wonder where they learnt it from and in ways that are so out of step with their generation overall. Politics now seems to have a geographic component where people with grow up in GOP strongholds maintain the reactionary line. My alma mater has been parodied for left politics on the Simpsons ("Non-conform with me!!!) but even back in the 1980s had lots of Reagan and Bush I voters if you look at the year books) Now being GOP at it would be weird.
    • AvatarJ_A on For Want of a President: On the British Parliament and the ExecutiveThe British constitution is based on a different conception of who the Sovereign is. The Sovereign is not the people, the Sovereign is "The Queen in Parliament". In this framework, the people are not really part of the sovereign, except insofar as the Queen in Parliament want to involve them. The Queen in Parliament means that all the power resides on the Queen, when she is acting with the advice [and consent] of Parliament. Through the centuries, the balance between the two have moved from the queen (small letters intended) to the PARLIAMENT, but the the essential concept has not changed in centuries. through a separate tug of war, the Prime Minister has stepped into all of the powers of the Queen. He can do anything, as long as it is within the letter of what Parliament has advised or consented to (via legislation and/or votes of confidence). The Prime Minister is whoever the Queen proposes that a majority of Parliament will not vote against. in practice, the leader of the largest faction in Parliament, and will retain his position for as long as a majority of MPs do not vote against him in a no confidence vote (Parliament itself, through the fixed Parliaments Act, established maximum five years period, but Parliament can change that tomorrow, if the "advise" the Queen to do so. The franchise, who is allowed to vote for MPs, and the balance of powers between Lords and Commons, has changed a lot in the last 200 years, but again, The Queen in Parliament could change that tomo…
    • AvatarJaybird in reply to Marchmaine on Harsh Your Mellow Monday: Your Premise Is Bad EditionThe whole "starting a brawl before the national anthem" joke is one of the funniest hockey jokes of all time. But its impact would be severely lessened if they didn't send the players out until after the anthem. Now I have to do some independent research... Found my answer. The relevant portion starts here, at 2:46.
    • AvatarPinky in reply to Oscar Gordon on Harsh Your Mellow Monday: Your Premise Is Bad Edition"Shallow patriotism"? Says who? Maybe a shallow dimension of patriotism, just like not calling the missus a "c" is a shallow dimension of marital love, but it says something about the kind of person who would break that norm. Our patriotism shouldn't be simply shallow, but small gestures aren't meaningless.
    • AvatarJS in reply to Andrew Donaldson on Harsh Your Mellow Monday: Your Premise Is Bad EditionI mean part of the Senate's latest corona-virus package is...allowing 100% deductions on business meals? Starting with "unrelated" and moving straight into "literally the opposite of helping combat a virus that spreads happily through travel and in-person dining". A payroll tax cut was also suggested -- definitely the thing to help in 10%+ unemployment, a minimal tax cut that only applies to those who have a job. Then there was my favorite, a GOP Senator actually suggested just giving people 6000 dollars as long as they used it for a vacation. I thought it was a joke, but nope. She wanted to give them money to travel and 'take time off'. During a pandemic. What's the joke that's been floating around? The GOP response to an illness is "Take two tax cuts and call me in the morning"? Who knew that was actually true....
    • AvatarGeorge Turner in reply to Jaybird on Harsh Your Mellow Monday: Your Premise Is Bad EditionI figure that if there's any doubts about the outcome, the Russians will sort it all out for us.
    • AvatarAndrew Donaldson in reply to Chip Daniels on Harsh Your Mellow Monday: Your Premise Is Bad EditionYour last paragraph there is harsh, but I think very fair and accurate.
    • AvatarStillwater in reply to Marchmaine on Harsh Your Mellow Monday: Your Premise Is Bad EditionThe NeverTrumpers want the Ignorant populists to go back to believing *their" lies, not Trump's lies.
    • AvatarMarchmaine in reply to Jaybird on Harsh Your Mellow Monday: Your Premise Is Bad EditionYeah... I should have mentioned my hockey childhood was in the 70s/80s and existed under the shadow/hagiography of Slap Shot. I still don't remember regular games sending out both teams for the Anthem... but eh, I don't remember a lot of things about the 70s/80s.
    • AvatarNorth in reply to Marchmaine on Harsh Your Mellow Monday: Your Premise Is Bad EditionThis assumes the populist voting base of the left is disaffected from the leadership/elite center leftists which, I think, assumes facts not in evidence. There is/was a rift that existed between the GOP's leadership elite and their voters that didn't/doesn't exist (or at least not remotely in the same degree) on the Democratic side. If the Democratic elite were dominated by market/neo liberals (they aren't) or social justice activists (they even more so aren't) then maybe they'd have the same problem; but they aren't, so they don't. If I had to bet on a realignment (and I am really bad a predicting politics), I'd think the right has to ditch either their economic populists or their libertarians with the ditched constituency ending up gravitating to the left. But with the never Trumpers specifically we should keep in mind that they represent a bunch of career political operatives and media voices. I don't know that there's any evidence to suggest they represent a voting constituency that is much larger than the number of votes they individually can cast. As to where they go? I think it depends on this election. If the GOP is utterly routed then maybe the never Trumpers will try and rebuild the George W Bush GOP in its ashes (which I doubt they'd succeed at). If the GOP merely loses or narrowly loses the never Trumpers are just gonna be a fading voice loosely attached to but exercising very little pull on the Democratic party until they fade away to nothing.
    • AvatarChip Daniels in reply to Saul Degraw on Harsh Your Mellow Monday: Your Premise Is Bad EditionOne of the criticisms I heard about the Democrats in 1979 was that they always campaigned like it was 1936 or something where the problem was economic depression and the answer was always more stimulus spending and government regulation. What I notice about the Republicans now is they always campaign like it is 1976 and the problem is economic stagflation and government overregulation. In both cases the underlying charge is that the ideology is exhausted, offered as a rote catechism without an underlying grasp of the problems we face, and an original idea of how to fix them. I don't see any evidence the hot young stars of the GOP like Charlie Kirk and Ben Shapiro or anyone at The Federalist have done any original thinking besides memorizing the Reagan talking points from 1980. They sound like those young evangelical child preachers who are always the darlings of the older set, because they faithfully parrot back to the parents the things the parents long to hear. In this case the parents are the deep pocketed financiers of the right wing like the Mercers and Rick Uihlein, who I see this morning is being reported as the money behind the Federalist.
    • AvatarMarchmaine in reply to Stillwater on Harsh Your Mellow Monday: Your Premise Is Bad EditionOuch, Bitter Cynical it is then. Though I wonder in passing can there even be any hope of electoral success without the Bitter Clingers, er, Ignorant Conservative Populists, er, base? Unless you're suggesting the true future winners of realignment: the Neo-Liberal Left/Center governing coalition? Establishments without the ugly commitments owed to either base?
    • Avatarveronica d in reply to JS on Harsh Your Mellow Monday: Your Premise Is Bad EditionThere is a ton of discourse on "feeding the trolls." The problem is, while any one person might ignore the troll, almost always someone will take the bait, and then the conversation degrades. As I said, it "sucks the oxygen from the room." Moreover, when you can see what they are doing, the tactics they use, it's really tempting to point out those tactics. Certainly I think discussing the tactics used by bad faith actors is useful. Pointing them out in specific cases seems similarly useful. Anyway, file under "we can't have nice things."
    • AvatarJS in reply to veronica d on Harsh Your Mellow Monday: Your Premise Is Bad EditionSome people delight in clear communication. Others delight in preventing it. Why waste your time with the latter? What could they possibly offer? Even if they have something to say, their natural inclination means they'll make sure no one understands it. And yet they often talk so very much.... An irony, I suppose. So many words to convey nothing. Silence would have been more efficient in getting the point across.
    • AvatarStillwater in reply to Marchmaine on Harsh Your Mellow Monday: Your Premise Is Bad EditionMy guess is a combination of expressed guilt at destroying the Party and a desire to remain relevant. That led over time to them actually finding their footing as relevant (they do much better attack ads on the GOP and Trump than Dems could ever hope to produce) and subsequently leveraging that for cash (not necessarily the grift yet!) since their one true and lasting commitment is to destroy Trump and Trumpism for ripping the lid off the cynicism upon which they'd built their careers and reputations. Whatever hope they have of becoming leaders of a future Republican party hinges on how well they play the role of antagonist to (what they view as) ignorant conservative populism.
    • AvatarNorth on Harsh Your Mellow Monday: Your Premise Is Bad EditionI find Hugh Hewitt's article oddly reassuring. I mean, if that is the full extent that a Trump sycophant like HH can inflate Trumps record then Trump is indeed in dire straits. For fish's sake HH actually tried to give Trump and the GOP credit for the Dems' coronavirus relief package even as the GOP is, in real time, refusing to re-authorize it. Seriously, this is the guy who wrote this after Biden's win in South Carolina. https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/2020/03/01/enjoy-it-joe-biden-because-it-wont-last/ Anyone who's this reliably wrong bears paying attention to.
    • AvatarMarchmaine in reply to Aaron David on Harsh Your Mellow Monday: Your Premise Is Bad EditionYou're giving them a bit more credit than I... but yeah.
    • AvatarGeorge Turner in reply to Jaybird on Harsh Your Mellow Monday: Your Premise Is Bad EditionI didn't see much reason to look beyond the URL. "...bipartisan group secretly [verb]..." A bipartisan group can't secretly [verb], so whatever it is, it didn't happen. Further, if there's a story about it in the press, then "secretly" is obvious false.
    • AvatarNorth in reply to Jaybird on Harsh Your Mellow Monday: Your Premise Is Bad EditionHe doesn't have to, they're already on board. Biden knows that the Dems/Left don't owe #neverTrumpers a damn thing and they aren't offering anything.
    • AvatarPihlip H in reply to DensityDuck on Harsh Your Mellow Monday: Your Premise Is Bad EditionThe song, like the flag, are symbols of the nation. They are no more or less immune to peaceful protest that any other symbol. And remember, prior to the 1970's none of these professional sports teams came out before the anthem. So it's not that hallowed a tradition. Also remember that Kapernick took his knee on the advice of a white Army vet who said he (the vet) felt kneeling was a respectful way to protest. The fact that the National Anthem was built of the frame of drinking song is mildly humerous.
    • AvatarAaron David in reply to Jaybird on Harsh Your Mellow Monday: Your Premise Is Bad EditionNormally I would agree with you, and it is generally how I go about commenting and reading comments here. Normally.