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- Sat, 27 Jul 2024 04:47:35 +0000: Comment on President Biden Addresses the Nation Regarding Not Seeking Re-election by DavidTC - Comments for Ordinary Times
In reply to <a href="https://ordinary-times.com/2024/07/24/president-biden-addresses-the-nation-regarding-not-seeking-re-election/#comment-4017399">Pinky</a>. <blockquote>The worst conduct of his presidency was his attempt to game a reelection, and that won’t be an issue this time.</blockquote> What evidence do you have that he will not attempt to remain in power again? Fun fact: The 22nd amendment doesn't say anything about how long a president can hold office. It says they can't be _elected_ more than twice: 'No person shall be elected to the office of the President more than twice...' There's a dozen ways around that, the easiest one is run as the vice president with a presidential candidate who will decline to take office. And, no, in case anyone is wonder, the 12th amendment saying 'But no person constitutionally ineligible to the office of President shall be eligible to that of Vice-President of the United States.' doesn't forbid that, because, again, a term-limited president is not _ineligible_ to be president, just ineligible to be _elected_ president. -- Hell, it's an interesting question if what he tried _last time_ would have worked for a third term. A remind that plot was not the fake EC votes, the those were merely to make Congress fail to finish counting EC votes, which would have made this part of the constitution trigger: <blockquote>'...if no Person have a Majority [of the electoral votes], then from the five highest on the List [of candidates] the said House shall in like Manner chuse the President.'.</blockquote> Is that 'electing' someone to president, if the House chooses someone by a vote? By 'election' we usually refer to the voting by the people, or by the EC, not by the House...I think a reasonable argument could be made that the House choosing the president is not 'electing' him. (He would have needed at least one electoral vote to defect to him to qualify in the 'top five' candidates, though, so that's more complicated than just running as VP.) -- Pretending that Trump can't run around smashing things to remain in power _again_ is nonsense. He certainly can. Hell, there's the 'Let's call a constitutional convention' nonsense that keeps showing up, I can easily imaging him pretending that was voted for and pretending they repealed the 22nd. - Sat, 27 Jul 2024 04:23:35 +0000: Comment on President Biden Addresses the Nation Regarding Not Seeking Re-election by DavidTC - Comments for Ordinary Times
In reply to <a href="https://ordinary-times.com/2024/07/24/president-biden-addresses-the-nation-regarding-not-seeking-re-election/#comment-4017481">Pinky</a>. <blockquote>And if the information was available, who would you blame? Because it was.</blockquote> The problem there is that we had exactly this thing already happen, with Hillary's health, and it was completely made up. Meanwhile, Trump is...very rapidly deteriorating. A thing which very obvious for a while. Both of their inner circles may indeed have hidden this about their candidate, but, like, the Democrats actually did something when other people noticed. The Republicans have not. - Sat, 27 Jul 2024 04:20:18 +0000: Comment on President Biden Addresses the Nation Regarding Not Seeking Re-election by DavidTC - Comments for Ordinary Times
In reply to <a href="https://ordinary-times.com/2024/07/24/president-biden-addresses-the-nation-regarding-not-seeking-re-election/#comment-4017370">Jaybird</a>. <blockquote>Did you see the story debunking the rumor that JD Vance humped a couch? Pretty funny!</blockquote> Technically, people have only debunked the statement that he <em>confessed to</em> humping a cough in Hilbilly Elegy. Word is still out on whether or not he actually ever did it. More seriously, JD Vance is...not doing well as a candidate. - Sat, 27 Jul 2024 03:03:46 +0000: Comment on President Biden Addresses the Nation Regarding Not Seeking Re-election by KenB - Comments for Ordinary Times
In reply to <a href="https://ordinary-times.com/2024/07/24/president-biden-addresses-the-nation-regarding-not-seeking-re-election/#comment-4017486">North</a>. OK I guess we’re agreed on the ultimate uncertainty anyway. I don’t think your examples of evidence are very powerful — in the case that he’s not “with it” enough to exercise much control, it’s his CoS and cabinet (all of whom he picked) that are running things, and the differences would be too subtle to notice. He has in fact tacked left on several things compared to where he was in 2020 (e.g. student loan forgiveness) but there’s no way to know whether that’s because he personally thought there was political gain in that direction or he was being led by the nose. A president is basically Chief Vision Officer and doesn’t touch most of what the government does anyway — I doubt it would make much difference either way up until there’s a real crisis. - Sat, 27 Jul 2024 02:58:01 +0000: Comment on Open Mic for the week of 7/22/2024 by Jesse - Comments for Ordinary Times
In reply to <a href="https://ordinary-times.com/2024/07/22/open-mic-for-the-week-of-7-22-2024/#comment-4017401">LeeEsq</a>. She look in her mid-40's, though
