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Chip Daniels
+ I'm trying to coin a term for an analysis that is a derivative of the mathematical function of the Cult Of The Savvy, sort [. . .]
+ As far as I can tell from the front pages of their website, they seem to have two different things going on. CNN doesn't seem to [. . .]
Stillwater

So, you *don't* believe CNN and MSNBC are pushing the narrative that Bernie shouldn't run because he has no chance?

Yeah, I should have used a word that indicated that stuff wasn't yet set in stone rather than "coalesces".

I regret the error.

Stillwater

Jaybird: He hasn’t even been running for a day, yet, Stillwater. dotdotdot

Also Jaybird: The narrative coalesces.

With 20/20 hindsight, I think that we might be able to say that Ron Paul and the r3VOLution was an indicator of what was coming.

+ He hasn't even been running for a day, yet, Stillwater. The narrative isn't established. We don't know what it will be when it is established. Personally, I [. . .]
Kolohe

Yeah, his thing is the 27 dollar donations, right?

Remember all the RON PAUL! Moneybombs?

Stillwater
+ The inference from your comments is that yes, you do believe that CNN and MSNBC are pushing that particular narrative. But when I ask you [. . .]
+ I wonder if it would be more irritating for me, personally, if I retyped the first word of my comment above or if I copied [. . .]
+ Here's a story from Valentine's Day that may or may not be particularly relevant: DNC announces fundraising, polling thresholds for early debates The Democratic National [. . .]
Stillwater
+ My suspicion is that Obama-hate from the religious right stems from his decision to not defend DOMA in the courts, and has nothing to do [. . .]
+ I don't know what the expectation ought to have been. I don't know when I need to switch from "okay, that's what I expected" to [. . .]
Pinky
+ Obama was not calm; he had an affectation of calm. He was as thin-skinned and nasty as our current president. He wasn't cautious; [. . .]
Stillwater

So, you *do* think CNN and MSNBC are pushing the narrative that Bernie shouldn't run because he has no chance?

No, it hasn't become official *YET*. Bernie's only been announced for, what? 12 hours?

Stillwater

Conservative pundit channeling Mitch McConnell: "Hey, we didn't start this. The Dems did. If they were in our position they would have done it too."

Chip Daniels

I think you can get half or more of the GOP to impeach for “Russian agent”.

Question asked, and answered in the negative.

Dark Matter
+ Sure it is. I can’t believe you’re (still) arguing this.I find it difficult to believe you'd hold a Dem to this standard. It's [. . .]
InMD
+ I don't support the charter school concept either but I still think you're vastly over simplifying. Not every private or parochial school is some [. . .]
North
+ Not really? I mean the field was plenty full after it was done but Jeb! did really cripple a lot of the other candidates in [. . .]
Brent F
+ I'm pretty sure this is broadly accurate. Although the DUP goes beyond not much liking Labour right now, they with some justification view Corbyn as [. . .]
Kolohe
+ I would expect the guy with a pre existing national fundraising infrastructure to have a better opening day than the rookie. The question is how much [. . .]

Of course. He's Mr. Invisible. Compare to Jeb!, Claude Rains went around in Hawaiian shirts and chartreuse Bermuda short.

Saul Degraw

https://www.vox.com/policy-and-politics/2019/2/19/18231758/bernie-sanders-today-video-burlington-vermont-socialist

Stillwater

Ahh, OK. So is it your view that CNN / MSNBC are pushing that narrative?

The narrative that Bernie shouldn't be running at all because he doesn't have a chance.

Part of that invisible one is money, money, money.

The twitters are pointing out that Bernie has made $3.3 million since announcing this morning.

Stillwater

Didn't Jeb! destroy the competition in the invisible primary?

Stillwater

The narrative coalesces.

Which narrative and around what?

Dark Matter
+ She was given many dozens of millions of dollars, FAR past sanity for a wild idea and technology that didn't work. If gender played [. . .]
Stillwater
+ That’s not impeachable. Worse, it probably shouldn’t be. Sure it is. I can't believe you're (still) arguing this. The original impeachable claim is he’s a Russian agent. [. . .]
Dark Matter
+ Translation: He's a scumbag, and his scumbag crew committed crimes. That's not impeachable. Worse, it probably shouldn't be. What you need is something that [. . .]
North

Yeah not a good look; everyone knows only nerds and Democrats care about logistics. Brownie did a heckuva job in FEMA too.

North

Well I think/hope she'll make it through to the visible one. The invisible primary is mostly wrapping up now.

+ HOLY CRAP KARL LAGERFELD HAS DIED People will see pictures on television screens and think that Bernie grew a ponytail and started wearing sunglasses like Roy [. . .]
+ Poor Amy. She's the most boring and, as such, the most electable... but the invisible primary has to happen before we get to the visible [. . .]
Saul Degraw
+ Jay Carney was a journalist for time before he became Obama's press secretary. He had journalistic experience. George Stephanopolus does anchoring/commentary, he does not manage/oversee [. . .]
North

Pah, he got more coverage that Amy did and she's an actual Democratic Party member.

Did Jay Carney, George Stephanopoulos, or Jim Sciutto have any comment?

Saul Degraw
+ Semi-OT but CNN hires a GOP flack to oversee 2020 coverage: https://www.vox.com/2019/2/19/18231993/cnn-gop-operative-2020-election-coverage Maybe internet rage will get this person dismissed quickly but this seems to be kind [. . .]
Chip Daniels
+ I agree but see it more as a gradual privatizing of what should be public. I think framing the choice of schools as one of virtue [. . .]
Oscar Gordon
+ It's all about thriving. Even in really good school districts, where parents have considerable voice, if a kid is not thriving in that school, [. . .]
Marchmaine
+ Tangential... Milwaukee maybe not fancy enough to host Dem Convention. ... But maybe since Chicago is so close, they could use those fancy facilities and just come [. . .]
+ On that note: If Bernie Sanders announces for president, and no one hears it... The Sanders announcement not rating as a lead story on CNN/MSNBC.— [. . .]
North
+ Well sure but there's no "performance" at this stage. Just a bunch of phone surveyors asking people (most of whom don't think of politics at [. . .]
North
+ Doesn't surprise me at all. Bernie has a fan-base, email lists and an established fund raising network from being the Not-Hillary candidate in 2016. How [. . .]
 
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