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The Immigration Debate is Over
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John-Pierre Maeli
Thoughts on Platforming
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Wednesday Writs for 4/17
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Alex Parker
Hope in the Stars
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Tech Tuesday 04/15/19 – “Taxes In The US Are So Stupid” Edition
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Ordinary Bookclub: Harry Potter and the Methods of Rationality (Chapters 16-25)
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Sana Ali
In The Shadow of the Weaponized Rubble
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The Mueller Report, Presented by AG William Barr: Discussion Thread
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Alex Muresianu
Don’t Raise Taxes to Address Revenue Shortfall, Cut Corporate Welfare
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Clare Briggs
Oh Man! Tracking Down The Booze
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The comments...

+ Chip, I have linked this report four or five times. Pretty much every time this topic comes up. I am sure that this is not the [. . .]
+ I tend to agree. When I worked at the restaurant, we had *TONS* of (legal) Mexican workers who lived 6-8 to a two-bedroom apartment and [. . .]
AvatarChip Daniels
+ So let me see if I get this correctly. The free flow of capital and goods benefits poor black people, but the free flow of labor [. . .]
AvatarJoeSal
+ @Maribou I think if you are going to make a claim of untruth(factually untrue), you need to demonstrate the truth is resolved before you can leverage [. . .]
AvatarPhilip H
+ American industries who use and often exploit Hispanic immigrant labor have long histories of expoliting unskilled African Americans, but either ar eno longer located where [. . .]

Not in service to Capital at the cost of solidarity with unskilled African-American workers?

("Liberal" and "Progressive" seems to change as often as "Conservative" does...)

AvatarPD Shaw
+ I thought his demeanor was causal and unbothered by her goofiness, and I was surprised when he doubled her bond for saying "adios" (in response [. . .]
AvatarDensityDuck
+ "Show me where I’ve ever said anyone had an obligation to exercise rights in any particular way." and then you say 'These people aren’t principled or saving [. . .]
AvatarRichard Hershberger
+ My multi-generational reaction: I was in the sweet zone for the original Star Wars: male, SF nerd, early teen. I bit willingly [. . .]
AvatarPhilip H
+ That sounds awfully liberal and progressive of you. And also openly capitalistic since it would allow labor demand to actually ebb and flow. Most [. . .]
+ In what court did L10 take place? The judge has an interesting accent and the young lady is pretty clearly lying when she says she has [. . .]
AvatarMaribou
+ @jaybird I don't want to silence it. I just don't want to be expected to coddle it and make coffee for it and call it [. . .]
+ I find HPMOR Harry more than I like regular Harry or Ron (they're too "ordinary kid" for me ), but he definitely not supposed to [. . .]
Avatarpillsy
+ Also, gotta say, when it comes to justifications: if I say I call someone an asshole, it's because I think they're being an asshole. There [. . .]
Avatarpillsy
+ I have seen this tendency a lot more among liberals in the last few years. I agree. Liberals in general are much, much angrier than they [. . .]
AvatarMaribou
+ @dave It's not that it's too much for a comments section; it's that if we're gonna run a site, responding to new-ish authors by calling them [. . .]
AvatarMaribou
+ (To be really clear - this is me speaking as a person, a member of the community, not as a moderator in any way.) I counted [. . .]
Avatarpillsy
+ My question is, do you think Shapiro is so harmful that he should be prevented from speaking on college campuses? Prevented? No, I thought I've been [. . .]
AvatarMike Dwyer
+ I will also add, you've been honest before that you have a habit of insulting and cursing people you disagree with. I guess I don't [. . .]
+ We're used to liking him. Hell, we're used to liking Ron and he doesn't show up at all. Draco does. And we're making friends with Draco! [. . .]
AvatarMike Dwyer
+ "But I might want to. I might decide that, since they are a nuisance and, frankly, being kind of shitty, I don’t, uh… what’s that phrase… [. . .]
AvatarDark Matter
+ You're overthinking it. If Nostradamus' work had serious backing then we'd be listening to that. During the civil war, with both sides using the [. . .]
Avatarpillsy
+ I would think you can come at that person with both guns blazing, and I would be thankful you did, and you never have [. . .]
AvatarMike Dwyer
+ "Would you want me to go zero to sixty on the F-bombs and call him a Nazi, or would you want me to maybe slow [. . .]
AvatarMike Dwyer
+ There's all kinds of others pressures, both formal and informal that come from outside immigrant communities. Again, it shouldn't be viewed as some nefarious thing [. . .]

I kinda believe that The Priests are swept up in the stuff too. They don't have the power to keep unpopular stuff popular.

+ I'm not looking for textual meaning, necessarily. I'm looking for what makes it take off more than merely engaging stories, poetic turns of phrase, or simple [. . .]
AvatarChip Daniels
+ ...needing to worry about everything from wild animals to slave rebellions without a centralized authority was reasonable. Indeed some would say this is a continuing premise [. . .]
AvatarDark Matter
+ where does the manual say it’s all in the manual? The default wasn't supposed to be "everything is in the manual", the default was [. . .]
AvatarDark Matter
+ The word "regulated" has undergone linguistic drift. Back in the day it meant "has proper working order", i.e. a clock would be well regulated if it [. . .]
AvatarJoeSal
+ To quote Justice Wilson: “To the Constitution of the United States the term Sovereign, is totally unknown.” (Which is probably why the pluralism thing somewhat worked, until [. . .]
AvatarMaribou
+ Point being, it's profoundly ahistorical to pretend that these *concepts* in our own shared culture have anything like clear boundaries. They spent a long [. . .]
+ Sure. And you know what helps? "I feel sympathy! Oh, no! Seriously, I feel sympathy! Please don't send us the Undocumented Dreamers that we said would [. . .]
Avatarpillsy

Yeah that's a reasonable response. I actually really appreciated this quasi-retraction from Will Saletan from about a year back for exactly that reason.

AvatarMaribou
+ " they are only intertwined if someone is being really intellectually lazy." That's tarring most of Western science around human biology for the entire 19th [. . .]
AvatarDavidTC
+ The thing about racists is that they assume everyone else is secretly racist and just pretending not to be. Trump got some people, but nowhere near [. . .]
AvatarDave
+ This is one of those issues where I've never understood the need to use as a hill to fight on if only because there's almost [. . .]
+ Unless the aliens have high academic achievement tendencies. "Of course our schools are diverse! We have a 22% Asian, 8% Hispanic, 14% Jewish, 3% Black, [. . .]
AvatarDave
+ Individuals aren't sovereign in the constitutional framework. Sovereignty is a collective people hence the reason why collective rights make more sense in the federal [. . .]
AvatarJoeSal
+ We could kind of get into the weeds about distributed manufacturing, both in the past but also in the future, and it does take, maybe [. . .]
+ “I weep for you," the Walrus said: “I deeply sympathize.” With sobs and tears he sorted out Those of the largest [. . .]
AvatarLeeEsq
+ I have no numbers on how many asylum seekers exist. Around 35 to 40% of asylum claims in front of the Immigration Courts are granted. [. . .]
AvatarNorth

I suspected as much; the perception that asylum seekers are gaming the system to immigrate en masse never struck me as very empirically based.

Avatarpillsy
+ Right, but the way I see it all those things (which are why we tend to like capitalism) require not only large numbers of other [. . .]
AvatarLeeEsq
+ They aren't really. Around 20,000 people get granted asylum every year. The number of people in the immigration court system are under a million. Most [. . .]
AvatarCJColucci
+ If your notion of "pressure" is telling immigrant people that they have to do what they have to do, just like everyone else, then I [. . .]