Clarification
A clarification. Kevin Drum and Andrew Sullivan both linked to my recent post re: The Pope’s recent communique allowing for an expedited form of entrance into full communion with Rome for Anglicans (while maintaining their distinctive traditions).
Here was the ‘graf in question:
If personal experience and lifelong immersion in a sub-culture is any form of persuasive evidence, I can tell you that conservative Anglo-Catholicism — at the clerical level — is totally dominated by gay men. Mostly repressed. What used to be called when I was in seminary, the pink mafia. And the thing that is the initial trigger for this decision is the upcoming very likely to happen decision to ordain women as bishops in the Church of England (there have already been women priests there for about 15 years or so). Which has a certain irony in this case. If these Anglo-Catholics join the Roman Communion they can join up with very conservative Roman Catholic groups like Regnum Christi and The Legionaries of Christ, also totally dominated by closeted gay fellows. You don’t need to be Sigmund Freud to see the awesome tragic humor in a bunch of non-wife-having grown men wearing pink dresses (and in the Pope’s case super expensive fabulous Prada shoes!!!) telling everybody else they shouldn’t be gay.
Which generated some interesting responses all across the spectrum. [I note that I shouldn’t have used the word decision twice in the same sentence–ugh, where’s my editor?] But a portion of the response seemed to imply that I harbor anti-gay bias. (I even got accused of underhandedly outing the Pope!!) I’m not quite sure how you get to that, even taking that paragraph in isolation (although I suppose I could see how it could be read that way), and certainly not if you read the rest of the post.
If you read the rest of Andrew’s commentary in his post, he and I are on the same page.
But if there was any doubt, let me put that to rest. My criticism was really twofold.
One critique is that the culture in both Roman and Anglo-Catholic circles (particularly among clergy–and remember I say this as someone whose is going to be a priest) allows for this kind of vampy quality, if you will, but all the while promotes an official anti-gay line. The criticism is not of gay men in church life. Far from it. Rather the problem, as I see it, emanates from the closet.
I’m reminded of the great line in To Be or Not To Be where the Nazi tells Mel Brooks they can put a play on so long as there are no “homosexuals, Jews, or gypsies”. To which Mel Brooks famously responds, “without gays, Jews, and gypsies, there’d be no theater!!!”
The same can be said of gay men in both the Roman and Anglo-Catholic worlds. Without their contributions there would be no such churches. But this fact has never been officially accepted.
And this isn’t the only such wink-wink game going on in the Catholic clerical world. I’ve spent some portion of time in Latin America (Mexico, Peru, and Nicaragua to be precise) and how many times did I meet a local parish priest who had a live-in nanny or church secretary or housecleaning lady or whatever they called her along with the priest’s “nephew” or “niece”? Answer: more than once.
Why don’t we just call it what it is? She’s not the cleaning lady; she’s his wife. He’s her husband. That’s their child. They’re a family. The family is a good, naturally beautiful thing. What’s unnatural is to be unable to call this what it is.
Just so with gay clergy. Their offering is a very holy one, but the gift becomes marred when locked into this tortured game of doing everything possible–inevitably ending in the sad tragicomedy I wrote about earlier –to not admit what is totally obvious and staring you in the face. When freed from this hypocritical charade, their lives become become a symbol both of a desire for and expression of redeemed humanity (Or so I believe anyway).
The second critique, again by no means universally valid, concerns another one of these unspeakable taboos: that a segment of the sub-culture of gay Anglo/Roman Catholic priests is very misogynistic. I know that for those on the outside that might seem a rather strange statement given the whole TV stereotype of gay men hanging out with women all the time, but it does exist.
Who knows what accounts for that reality of misogyny in this context? You might attribute it to guys being guys and the way some guys inevitably treat women as inferior. You might attribute it to being schooled in a culture that treats some humans as higher beings, infusing them with almost god-like status, and then confining this recognition only to men. Any of the above, all of the above, something else, some combination of other factors. Who knows, but whatever the cause the effect is real.
And my hunch (and it’s only that at a hunch) is that the Pope’s outreach will likely have its most fertile soil (if only initially) in that world.
The combination of hypocrisy and misogyny is pretty atrocious although I suppose it’s neither more nor less atrocious than misogyny from straight men and other forms of hypocrisy (religious or otherwise).
A little personal background (which I don’t normally do here but I guess this calls for it) might help clarify where I stand in this. As I mentioned last time, I used to be a Jesuit, I spent four years (from age 20-24) training with them, for which I owe a great deal of gratitude as it was an environment of great learning and caring for me personally. One of these things that was involved with life in a religious order was a vow of celibacy. It just so happened that this one element was the one many people typically focused on but it was still only one piece.
Anyway, during that time a pattern started to occur in my life, which I did not see coming, namely that because of the vow of celibacy, I ended up forming a number of very deep friendships with women. Women about my age. Mostly, though not all, straight women. They allowed their shields to go down, an experience I didn’t realize until later was very rare and essentially only took place because of the rather different life circumstances/commitments I was in at the time. And when the shields went down, and the women opened up, it was an entry into a very special, very unique, very different world from the one that I had mostly lived in. Not that I was prejudiced against women at the time, but I would never have guessed what was going in their worlds prior to their sharing. It was a really privileged communication and experience for me to be granted access and vision to that inner world and it changed the way I saw and felt life.
At the same time I was living in houses full of men, in most cases at least half if not more of whom were gay. Now I don’t want to make a mistake in the other direction and romanticize (and therefore de-humanize) those men, as they obviously all had their own individual personalities and lives which included but also were more expansive than sexual orientation. But my experiences in their company also made me begin to assess my own sense of manhood and masculinity (again I was in my early twenties, a good time to be doing all that investigation and identity formation).
I was more drawn to that life for the sense of being on a mission, having a great purpose to fulfill, in the sense of a Band of Brothers. The gay members taught me something about being and not just doing. Something about celebration and relaxation and care in life . The promotion of beautiful aesthetics were a part of that energy, but it encompassed more than that arena. This isn’t a threat or a critique of the mission side of the Jesuits, it’s just a rightful compliment.
So to both of those groups I owe a great debt of gratitude for having graced my existence with their being and loving, something at the time I wasn’t always very good at explicitly saying (particularly to the men). Consequently, on one level I can joke about the whole ludicrous nature of Anglican-Roman Catholic stuff because a good deal of it is so flippin’ silly. On the other hand, it’s very painful. I’m not saying my pain is the pain of women or gay men or that somehow I know what it’s like (totally, completely) to be such a person. But I do know pain caused from being close to people who suffer for those reasons. Which doesn’t make me some hero, just normal (by my understanding).
To see those two close relational groupings intersect in the midst of the two communities (Anglican and Roman Catholic) that combined I’ve spent my entire life –or rather to see it come out in worldwide media–is very strange and saddening. But perhaps, if one is so inclined in belief, The Divine might make some lemonade out of these human-made lemons yet.
This post made me feel very sad.
I wish you the best in your struggle (and those other priests, and their flocks, and everyone whose lives they touch).
I hope you do yourselves (and everyone else) more good than harm. Good luck.Report
Chris,
I know the reasons why gay priests joined the clergy in the 40’s, 50’s and 60’s (if you’ve got three sons, you don’t send the genius or the football star to seminary – you send the shy, quiet, ‘pansy’.)
What I’m curious about is what you see as the reason why so many closeted (and uncloseted) gays find their way into the clergy now?Report
It just so happens, Mike, that I asked your very question to a former Catholic who has been exiled from his faith for being unable to meet their very strict standards when it comes to homosexuality. I think his response is very sensible so I’ll share it in my own words.
Joining the priesthood, for a devout Catholic homosexual, is a no brainer. Consider for a moment the Catholic position on homosexuality: that homosexual urges/orientation are a cross that these people must bear but that the urges in of themselves may or may not be diminished through faith and prayer but that if they cannot be banished are not in of themselves sinful. Rather the sin lies in acting on said homosexual urges.
For a strongly homosexual man the opposite sex will typically possess almost no (and in some cases an actively negative) sexual attraction to them. What this means is that strongly homosexual oriented individuals must, in order to remain in line with Gods commandments as they have been taught them, be chaste. Sex with the opposite sex is possible, sure in some cases, but only via an act of considerable effort and also considerable cruelty to the woman involved (very few women would knowingly be interested in marrying a man who found absolutely no sexual appeal in them).
When you put it in this context the choice to become a priest is so obvious that it’s almost laughable. Consider the alternatives. A genuinely faithful gay catholic can either:
-Be a single chase man which will identify him in his community as a homosexual. Even as a gay man who is obeying the restrictions of the faith you can imagine what kind of life this man will face; one of solitude and sideways looks from their fellow men and pity from the women in the faith.
-Be a man who is lying or otherwise deceiving an innocent woman in order to maintain the facade of heterosexuality.
Or
-Be a Priest.
Priests are men who are respected and admired in their communities. They are the shepherds of the flock and guardians of the faith of their peers. The most onerous requirement of being a priest, celibacy, is required already of a faithful homosexual.
Given the options why would the faithful homosexual not flock to the arms of Mother Church? This is without even considering the appeal of the theatrical liturgies, awesome music, costumes, drama and pomp of the catholic clergy.
It seems to me
For the faithful it’s a no brainer. And this also partially explains their vehemence regarding their counterparts, the gay who chose life, happiness and freedom over their faith. For these poor old gay men what does accepting homosexuality mean? It means that their decades of tears and self denial and self loathing were wasted, unnecessary. Even an agnostic like me can see how the gay sects of the clergy would recoil from the idea.Report
Chris for my humble part as a gay man I found nothing what so ever offensive about your original post. At least not offensive on any gay level. People must be either misreading you or being thin skinned.Report
From what you’re saying, the Roman Catholic Church is one in which gay men are predominant, and one that practices discrimination against gays. Knowing this, how could anyone join the organization and take a vow of obedience?Report
Because they see it as doing Gods will.
There is no greater tyrant than a godly man for a normal tyrant may repent or admit that deep down they know that what they are doing is wrong. A godly man armored in his faith need fear no doubt as he perpetuates limitless cruelty on his fellow mans’ body in order to save their immortal soul. He knows –knows- that he is doing good.Report
Mark,
The RC position is that being gay or lesbian qua orientation is not wrong of sinful as such. It is considered a “disordered” inclination but humans (of all stripes) are according to his psychology full of disordered inclinations. e.g. Jealousy, wanting to steal someone’s stuff, rage or abusive inclinations, rape, etc. And no I’m not comparing rape with gay or lesbian orientation (not in magnitude of harm/scale that is).
When it is considered sin is when the tendency becomes act–i.e. when a gay or lesbian has sex with the same gendered person they are attracted to.
So knowing that you can see how priesthood is an option that appeals to many gay Roman Catholic. They enter a culture where there is a number of similarly minded/emotional people, there are elements of the tradition that are very receptive to what we can generically call a gay spirit, and the choice for celibacy “takes care” of the part about never committing the sin of actual sex. At least in theory that’s how it works. In practice, it’s of course often quite different. Also in a culture that officially is opposed to gays, being a priest doesn’t ever raise questions about why the man doesn’t have a wife or girlfriend.
Does that make sense?Report
One question: how is it that you can say in three paragraphs what I say in a small essay? I’m comitting the sin of envy right now at your ability to be succinct.Report
As a woman who long struggled with attraction to the priesthood all I can ask is how does anyone who is a priest or who is preparing to be a priest expect to function as a teacher when the divisions and blind spots have made integrity impossible? What can you teach as a representative of an institution (I distinguish it from the Tradition) which is deadended in the lies its leaders tell themselves?Report