Throwing the baby out with the veal calf
Over the last year or so, bloggers at First Things have taken the position that the animal rights movement represents a unique threat to the dignity of human life and especially the unborn. While I think this position alienates many of their potential allies and conflates a number of widely divergent views within the community of people who care about animal welfare, their confusion is not entirely inexplicable. The philosopher Peter Singer is perhaps the most cited spokesman of the movement, and he suggests, abominably, that it is less morally significant to kill a human infant than an adult dog.
On Thursday, the already somewhat hysterical attacks reached a new low with a blog post that condemns on Singerian grounds a particular defense of animal rights contained in a recent book review. The reviewer wrote:
Even if painlessly euthanized at that age, the brevity of its life precludes that life from having been a good one
The response:
The reviewer seems to assume, but does not even try to argue, that food animals deserve a long and fulfilling life (whatever fulfilling means for them), and therefore to kill them for our use is wrong. But since they have no real consciousness or memory, how can they know, much less care, that their life is shorter than it might have been? … Would a beef cow fall into despair if told he was being slaughtered on Monday? Would he start lamenting the books he had not read, the symphonies he had not written, the fact that he won’t be grazing in the field with his great-grandchildren?
Never mind the evident falsity that animals “have no real consciousness or memory,” what’s truly pernicious about this post is that it responds to an argument about what is objectively good for animals with an argument that only subjective goods matter.
The argument suggests that the only goods that matter for a cow are goods that the cow itself cares about. This entails that, since babies can’t know their lives are being cut short, it is permissible to cut them short. In other words, the only difference between the position articulated in America’s most intellectually pre-eminent pro-life journal and Peter Singer’s infanticidal philosophy is a question of fact—are higher animals conscious?—on which Singer certainly holds the correct view.
What’s especially painful about this post is that there are perfectly good reasons not to be a vegetarian even if you think that the objective goods of animals do matter. In fact, I suspect that an argument about objective goods is the only kind of argument that makes room for the concept of human dignity. Dignity is a concept useful in answering questions about what is owed to a thing, an animal or a person in virtue of the kind of thing that it is. You find out what is owed in part by examining whether there are good proper to the flourishing of things of that kind and the relationship of these goods to one another—whether some are architectonic, for instance. The blogger instead attempts to defend human dignity with reference to a single faculty—the ability to foresee its fate—that some humans and animals have, while other humans and animals do not. It might turn out that living a long life is not actually a good, or a fundamental good, for cows, or that respecting the human good of being nourished trumps the good of long life for the cows, but this is the kind of argument that needs to be made against the reviewer, rather than a short-sighted dismissal of the entire vein of argument.
It should be noted that I don’t think the post I link to represents the general or consensus view at First Things. While I do think their broad approach to the animal rights movement is deeply misguided, much of what they’ve published has raised good points, or at the very least hasn’t philosophically aligned them with their worst opponents. Joe Carter, for instance, was quick to respond in-house: http://www.firstthings.com/blogs/firstthoughts/2010/03/18/the-future-killing-of-animals-embryos-and-infants/
While Carter’s post is hardly philosophically untroubling itself, I’m glad he argued that undermining pro-life positions is much too steep a price to pay in any fight with the defenders of animal rights.Report
When I spent eight months in France and returned home, I was skeptical that my cat would remember me. But she stood in front of me in shock doing something that I can only describe as shocked screaming. I understood it as “Where in the heck were you?!” Then she was sulkily mad at me for a few days before returning to behavior that she only engages in with me. I’ve seen several other incidents in which she remembered information after a year and a half. So, I’m very skeptical about animals and their lack of memory.
Also, you’ve hit on what’s troubling about that post- replace “animal” with “fetus” in that quoted passage.Report
Yes, I’ve long been weirded out by how pro-life arguments contain echoes of animal rights arguments while, at the exact same time, pro-choice arguments contain echoes of pro-slavery arguments (e.g., the focus upon property, the attempts to minimize personhood, so on).
That’s the problem with principles. They bubble up in weird places.Report
Well to be fair pro-life positions also contain echoes of pro-slavery arguments; the baby/fetus/potential person gains the personhood and the woman becomes an incubator enslaved to its needs.Report
It is hardly a pro-slavery argument to state a biological fact that women are incubators.Report
But one does not hear echoes of real, actual, seriously people made this argument defenses of slavery… does one?Report
Well, Scott just kicked the legs out of that one now didn’t he?Report
I dunno, it is also a biological fact that women are capable of terminating their pregnancies. Once it involved some nasty herbs or a pointy stick and often took the woman out with the pregnancy. In modern times they’ve gotten more adept at it.
The pro-life argument follows pro-slavery tones similar to those that the pro-choice argument does. E.q., the removal of a woman’s ownership and control of her own body, the attempts to minimize her personhood and ability to make choices as an autonomous actor. Etc…Report
Hey. I’m pro-choice up to and including the moment of crowning.
It mostly has to do with my not wanting the government to have the power to say “nope, you can’t do that” to someone who wants to kill her baby.
But the argument that the baby is merely a fetus and shouldn’t be considered a human being and that there aren’t any moral issues at stake here strike me as somewhat different from saying that women don’t have the right to terminate an unwanted pregnancy (and the fact that most everybody makes exceptions for rape/incest/mother’s life in danger seems to back up their opinions of what is at stake for all related parties in the tradeoff) remind me of many of the defenses given for slavery… hey, those guys are property. They’re savages who haven’t achieved full personhood. It’s none of the government’s business.
Besides, it’s in the Constitution.Report
Oh I hear you there. Personally I doubt that many serious pro-choicers actually believe that the issue is easy or unladen by morality, there merely deny that anyone other than the woman concerned has much moral standing in the decision. The Father a bit I guess but otherwise no one.
Of course since they’re engaged in a life or death struggle with pro-lifers both sides adopt maximal rhetoric. That’s politics for ya.Report
This seems like it might be a dangerous conversation to wade into, but pro-life arguments never explicitly deny the personhood of the mother, whereas the non-personhood of the fetus is in fact the hinge of many philosophically pro-choice positions. Of course if you think that fetuses aren’t persons, then the pro-choicers just have the question factually correct.Report
Mills responds to your point in the comments by saying that a fetus has the potential to develop those qualities. So his argument, thus amended, sort of passes your dignity test. However, and this may be blunt, but someone like Terri Schiavo doesn’t pass that test; at least not in the way he has framed it. And I’m sure if Mills was pressed on this, he would concede that his real point is that animal and man are inherently different and that’s that.Report
Yes, there are many good arguments about why it’s ok to kill cows and eat them, but not fetuses. That a fetus has the potential to develop into a conscious being is one possible approach, though not a very good one, partly for reasons you identify. But Mills didn’t make that argument in his original post. If he had I would have been much less harsh.Report
Sorry Singer, I love my cat but love my baby more. Clearly this guy has too much time on his hands and has been living in his academic ivory tower for far too long like many of his ilk.Report
“Never mind the evident falsity that animals “have no real consciousness or memory,” what’s truly pernicious about this post is that it responds to an argument about what is objectively good for animals with an argument that only subjective goods matter.”
What on earth is “pernicious” about recognizing reality? There is no such thing as ‘objective good’. To assert otherwise is nothing more than to glorify your own subjective valuations.
The animal rights movement, like the environmental movement, begins by committing that same fallacy, then goes on to try to get voting rights given to animals (or to “the Earth”) which they, the movement, will then have to step in and exercise, since animals and the Earth aren’t capable of having opinions, much less making moral choices.
If you can’t even accept that, I suggest you leave off blogging for a few days until you’re sober.Report