The Problem with Opportunity Costs
Glyph asked me to consider doing a post on opportunity costs and college/grad school education a few weeks ago. He probably asked me this because of my constant insistence that a university education and graduate school education is a net benefit and social good. Also because of my semi-regular complaining about what happened to the legal market when I attended law school and how constant freelancing gets me down.
Here it is.
Wikipedia gives a good rundown on Opportunity costs. They are basically the alternatives not taken and what benefit you could have received from had you taken them. For example, time spent in school (university, grad school, vocational/trade school) could have been spent on the job market, getting paid and learning skills instead of (probably) incurring loans to go to school while riding out a potentially bad job market.
Opportunity costs are real but problematic. The big problem with them is that they invite all sorts of unknowns and hypothetical thinking. There seems to be an assumption on the part of the person who brings up opportunity costs that the alternatives are always better or going to lead to good places than the path taken.
Above the Law’s Elie Mystal wrote an essay on the costs of dropping out of a big law job to take up blogging in 2005. He guestimates that his pre-tax and non-bonus earnings would have been close to 2.3 million dollars. This is a lot of money. He also states that Big Law made him psychologically miserable and continuing would have been a dilemma because he would have moved up his lifestyle expenses and not been willing to break away from them.
Mr. Mystal spoke about this essay on Slate Money. He was asked whether he would choose to go to law school again and said, basically, “Fish no.” Mystal theorized that had he foregone law school he would have been further along in his journalism career, potentially writing and editing for more prestigious publications than Above the Law.
I am not so sure that this is true. Elie Mystal is very smart and hard-working. He was able to get into Harvard Law School and get a job at a prestigious law firm. These are quality accomplishments. There is a good chance that a younger Mystal would have been able to get an internship or entry-level job as a journalist — but “chance” is the operative word here. Perhaps it was his experiences with law school and working at law firms as an associate that gave Mystal an in to becoming a legal blogger. Mystal also received his undergrad degree from Harvard, so his possibilities were probably endless.
Most people do not receive their undergraduate and law degrees from Harvard. The strangeness of the American Higher Education system has graduates from top-tier universities considered as also-rans in our top industries. Plenty of people get well-payed jobs and/or rewarding careers without going to Harvard but going to Harvard always helps. I think reason we focus on Big Law and Wall Street jobs so much is because those jobs offer the best chance at paying off student loans relatively quickly. Otherwise they seem to be a life-long affair.
There is a good chance that bad economies would have played a part in my outcome regardless of my choices after graduation. I started college in the fall of 1998 during the boom days of Tech 1.0 and the Clinton economy. I went to college because that is just what one did in my hometown. And then 9-11 happened during my senior year, and Tech 1.0 went bust soon after that. I think that most people who graduated when I did were left without the kind of firm plans they might have had in a different economy.
I decided to teach English in Japan for a year because I wanted to live abroad and teaching English in Japan was one of the easiest ways to do so. I had a blast, but I gained few if any skills because of the low bar that private teaching companies have for both training and lessons. There is a chance that I could have gotten real skills during my Japanese year doing something else — or, possibly, I could have just been another liberal arts kid grad working in a cafe or store.
After coming back from Japan, I tried getting into theatre. I landed some internships, but I wanted to direct; the general assumption was that to get that kind of gig one needs to go to graduate school. So I applied and went to graduate school. During my first year there, however, I became suspicious about the chances of ever making it as a professional theatre director. Looking at other career options, I considered dropping out to attend law school. I even went so far as to apply. Ultimately, though, myy parents encouraged me to stick out graduate school, saying if I left I would always have regrets about what “could have been.” (They will never say so, but I wonder if my parents feared that my regrets would have caused me to flunk out of law school.)
I worked during my second and third years of graduate school in non-theatre jobs. My first job was a part-time job as a publicity assistant for a small company. I was pretty horrible at it. My second was an being an independent elections supervisor for the Board of Directors at highly passionate but highly troubled non-profit. This involved a crash course in conflict management because the elections I was supervising involved two camps that had hated each other since the early 1970s. Still cynical about my chances of making it as a theatre director, I applied applied once again to law school. I got into a better law school during my second application.
This time when I entered school the economy in general (and the legal market in particular) were imploding. The legal market has never really recovered from the general chaos of 2009 that Mystal writes about in his essay, though I have been doing okay. There have been bouts of unemployment. There has been a lot of stress. There is still a lot of worry and fear that my legal career is going to be permanent freelance work. Of course, there is also the chance that everything will work in a few years and this will all become “when I was your age” story fodder, and that I will eventually feel silly looking back at mu teenage-like angst.
So maybe going to law school worth it for me. I was not that employable from in my early twenties, except for some temp work here and there. Maybe there is an alternative version of my life where I made it as a theatre director or became an associate professor on a tenure track. There could be another version of my life where I am a struggling adjunct like most other people in my generation in academics. Maybe I am working in a bookstore and happy. Maybe I am working in a bookstore and miserable. Who knows?
Thinking about the opportunity costs is just too hypothetical.
Opportunity costs and the sunk-cost fallacy can be a helpful way to get a handle on making big decisions, or they can be just-so stories to justify doing what you wanted to do all along.
The thing about careers in the arts, or most things, is you just never know. When I was in college, everyone in the know kept insisting that a liberal-arts education was what companies were looking for in candidates. This idea seems to be considered obviously wrong now, and depending on your politics, we were either naive or elitist to ever believe it. (But was it true at the time? In the late 80s/early 90s, were HR directors saying they were looking for well-rounded educations on resumes, but really tossing them in the trash? Or were they hiring people like us, until things changed and those HR directors were themselves schitzcanned? I guess I could research that, but I have some tacos to eat.)Report
Hmmmmm….tacos….Report
Well played. Well played indeed.Report
Thinking about the opportunity costs is just too hypothetical.
I read all the way to the end for that? Sheeeet.Report
“I read all the way to the end for that? Sheeeet.”
And that is two scoops of shite.Report
And to think of the productive ways you could have spent that time!Report
The problem with throwing your hands up and saying “it’s all to hard” is that doesn’t actually improve your decision-making. Whatever your opportunity cost is, it certainly isn’t 0. Yes in practice it is very hard to work out the costs of benefits of any action, and that includes opportunity costs, but that’s a reason to approach your best estimate with humility and test your assumption, not just to give up.Report
I agree with @james-k and @krogerfoot . I’ll add this: When you’re considering making a decision, the outcome of that decision is just as hypothetical as the opportunity cost is. Only after the fact–perhaps years after the fact–when you’ve made one decision and not one of the several others available to you, does the opportunity cost become much more hypothetical than the road taken.Report
I’m somewhere in-between everyone here on the subject.
Like @james-k I think that evaluating opportunity costs in retrospect has a certain value. I do, however, think that this value is far more limited than we imagine — or at least I do when we’re talking about life decisions.
Part of the reason for this is that the opportunity costs of our previous life’s decisions are largely stories that we tell ourselves, and exactly what that story is probably says more about our mindset at that exact moment than it does the way our lives would have unfolded if only we had chosen X.
Indeed, the very reason we think our lives turned out the we they did is because we chose A and not B at some crossroads — rather than it being due to a never-ending series of infinite variables, some of which we made conscious decisions about, more of which we made unconscious decisions about, and even more than that which we never had a choice about at all — is itself a story we like to tell ourselves to make us feel more in control of everything than we truly are.
I believe that the truth is that there is very little Saul can learn about how his life would be different by weighing the opportunity costs of not going to law school, for the very reasons he states in the OP. Because there is no way for him to know what that life would have been, really.He might have been richer, or poorer, or happier, or depressed, or basically exactly where he is now but with a different job title. What Saul *can* do, though, is pay attention to what his gut is telling him about those imagined opportunity costs when he looks back, because there probably is something important about his life, his desires, and both his fulfilled and unfulfilled needs to be learned there, and that’s something he can truly use in future decision making.
The rest of it, though… I think it’s folly.
That being said, trying to weight opportunity costs for things you plan on doing in the *future* seems the very definition of wisdom.Report
I don’t have the book here now because I’m on the road this morning, so I can’t quote this exactly, but this conversation here is reminding me of a conversation between Mustrum Ridcully and Granny Weatherwax in Carpe Jugulum.
Having been paramours in their youth, Ridcully begins to wax about the opportunities missed because they went off to learn magic rather than get married and build lives together. After he’s been doing this for a while, Granny asks, “Well, what about the fire?” Ridicule, confused, asks which fire she’s talking about, and she says, “The one that started that night years ago when we were sleeping and killed us both.”
She goes on to list all kinds of possible futures they might have had, any of which might have been the ultimate outcome to their staying together and being wed. That Ridcully looked at the one happy-lives-together scenario and believed it was what would have happened said nothing about what actually would have happened, it only said something about Ridcully on that day that he was thinking about it.Report
As explained in the first para of the OP, the intent of my original comment was not necessarily for Saul (or anyone) to re-evaluate his own life or second-guess his past choices; it was because Saul is constantly hitting on how critical it is that everybody gets enough post-HS education (and the “right” kind of it); yet he also often talks about how he is not completely happy about where he is professionally after 10 or more years of post-HS education (university + grad school + law school, a lot of it probably considered fairly “high-end” education).
I didn’t expect a post in response; I was just pointing out that dichotomy, using his own experience as an example.
Maybe “more school” isn’t always the best answer for everyone, and opportunity costs are part of why.Report
Saul is constantly hitting on how critical it is that everybody gets enough post-HS education (and the “right” kind of it)
Uh, taken literally can this ever remotely be a problematic position? It seems to me that @will-truman does this too; he just (maybe!!) thinks what’s right for people might be different from what Saul might. (Keep in mind that we can throw scare quotes around anyone’s account of what is the right kind of education in given circumstances, not just Saul’s.)
Taken as I think you mean it (because it’s clearly being presented as a problematic position), where “post-HS education (and the “right” kind of it)” means (for Saul) college of some kind to exclude vocational or apprentice programs, and “enough” means more or significantly more than none, I think you might just be wrong as a matter of the record. I don’t know that Saul holds such a position, much less that he constantly hits on it.
I’ll just say I’m skeptical; I assume it’s not worth it to you to dig through comments to try to establish this, though, if it is, knock yourself out.
My position, which, I think is something like Saul’s, is that I think there are considerable social and individual benefits to expanding the number of people who at least get a chance to try out college that has a basic liberal studies component (like just about any two- or four-year degree program do), and that I probably value those social benefits (as I see them) more than some others do. But that’s nothing like a conviction that it’s critical everyone should get some amount X of the kind of education that we would recognize as “college,” or any other particular conviction about what everyone must do that reflects whatever the meaning of your description is. I’m not aware that Saul has such a position either.
The view that everyone should go to college and it’s critical that they do is a rather extreme view (which I guess some people hold). The view that lots more people should be afforded the opportunity to go to college (or to try it, or something like it) and that skepticism that X persons who might be interested, or in particular discouraging them from going, are regrettable is a completely different, much more moderate position.Report
To be clear: I’m not saying the benefits flow primarily from the liberal studies component of all the programs (though I am probably more interested in the benefits that do flow from those than most people). The main (individual and social) benefits of any post-HS educational program come from the accumulation of skills and credentials that will be useful and remunerative down the road in life. I’m not saying I want all of the additional people I’d like to be given the opportunity to try college to major in liberal studies. Broadly, people should find fields that match their skills and career desires (of course). (And if they can advance in those fields to where they want to get to without going to college and have no personal interest in college, by all means they should skip it – opportunity costs!)
But I do think that the personal and social benefits of exposure to ideas in the liberal arts that attach peripherally to college of almost any kind are real, and are in addition to (the bulk of) the personal and social benefits that flow from college that flow from skills accumulation and career advancement (ie. human capital development and credentialing).Report
@tod-kelly
I didn’t know you were a historian 🙂Report
Opportunity costs aren’t like those gods in fiction where they just go away if people stop believing in them. It may be complicated, but it has to be a part of any decision that you make. Unless you want to make stupid decisions, I mean.
Retrospective opportunity cost assessment is less helpful. But if we’re talking about whether we made the right decision by doing A instead of B, we can’t really make that assessment without considering how B would have turned out, and considering those opportunity costs of A. And vice-versa.Report
Imagine this being said with a Scottish accent.
“Someday you’ill find yourself looking at a fork that goes off to two muddy roads. It dinnae matter which road you take… you’ll soon be wishing you took the other.”
Unless we’re talking about something like spending six figures on a degree in pop culture. That’s pretty avoidable.Report
Jeez, of all the people that hang out here with any regularity, I seriously doubt that anyone can match me for time spent contemplating lost opportunities and roads not taken. (Heh)
I mean… when I was a kid at some point we were administered some kind of standardized IQ test. My best friend (who’s now a lawyer) told me his mom said his score was 140. When I told MY mom that, she (likely wisely) wouldn’t tell me my score, but she just gave me a little smile and said, “Yours is higher.” Then years later I won an academic contest to be named “Outstanding Student in Math and Science” for Northwest Kansas, which… okay, it’s not like the same sort of thing for NYC, but it’s not nothing either. Then I graduate from engineering school Pi Tau Sigma Honors Society.
And now I’m driving a god-damned truck for a living.
So yeah, I’ve spent some time contemplating just what the fuck happened to lead me to this outcome. It’s certainly not what I or anyone else would have or should have expected.
In hindsight, I can certainly see junctures where I should have turned a different direction. They’re mostly early on and involve personal life decisions not directly career related that nonetheless had profound effects on my eventual career path. Things like holding off on getting married when I did or to whom I did.
And then I get a call from my daughter who’s starting her own life and career, the wonderful woman who likely wouldn’t even exist in those alternate realities, or from her baby sister, who’s the smart kid in her class, or from their mother, with whom I just recently celebrated our thirtieth wedding anniversary, while my friends from college who actually made the career thing work out all had to work out long-distance visitation arrangements with their kids, and… the way it all turned out doesn’t seem so awful.Report
Predictions are hard, especially about the past.Report