4 thoughts on “Resurrection of a book club – The Darkness that Comes Before

  1. I’ve read a lot more than this, and I’ve really enjoyed the books so far. Even within the first nine chapters, though, there are lots of examples of sexual abuse that even I found pretty shocking and almost gratuitous. In particular, on page 180 in chapter 7, there is a scene where Xerius recalls an encounter with his mother in his youth where she climbs in bed with him and pleasures him. While I would consider myself far from a prude, I found this treatment to be particularly salacious and unnecessary. I think this particular detail is important to understand Xerius’s character, but it could have been treated in a different way to get the same result. Do others agree? Is this treatment of sexual abuse gratuitous or is it necessary to understand the character of Xerius?Report

    1. I think it’s absolutely gratuitous. And there are worse moments. I think this improves drastically in the second trilogy, but it hurts these first books and their mainstream appeal.Report

      1. Yeah, there’s definitely a rich and interesting history (I spent an hour reading the appendix one night), but it’s definitely a mark against the trilogy. We had this debate about GRRM’s books a few months ago, but I think in this case it’s much more gratuitous. Almost all of the female characters except maybe Esmenet (and even then) fall into awful misogynist tropes. I know it’s women in a highly patriarchal society, etc. etc. but if I were a woman reading this series, I would probably be turned off by the treatment of women.Report

        1. Agreed. It just goes too far too often. Fortunately this is much less the case in the second trilogy. I suspect sales of the books were hurt by it, which is too bad because it’s a fantastic series. One of the best written fantasies out there. I’m not sure that Bakker meant to be sexist, either. It reads as a little immature. He’s obviously a very smart dude but his take on patriarchy is too “edgy” and dark. He tries too hard.Report

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