The Structure of the Kuhnian Revolution
I recommend Br. Brafford’s post on non-foundationalism for the layman, but I find his treatment of Thomas Kuhn quite unfair:
I’m reading Thomas Kuhn’s controversial classic The Structure of Scientific Revolutions, in which Kuhn put forward, among other things, the suggestion that there not be any sense in which we can say that modern science puts us closer to the truth than Aristotelian and Ptolemaic science. Kuhn rejects the kind of foundationalist epistemology that claims we can have objective certainty about our knowledge. Since intellectuals were practically required to take a position on Kuhn in the several decades after he published, I’ve been flipping through the books on my shelf to see if I can make more sense out of discussions of Kuhn the second time through.
As one of the three members of the League born and raised in the greater Cincinnati area, it is incumbent upon (at least one of) us to defend a native son of our fair city and his very important (when correctly understood) philosophical insights.
Kuhn’s work is best analyzed in relation to the the theories of Karl Popper, then dominant in the field of philosophy of science.
The wiki on Kuhn is here helpful:
In this book, Kuhn argued that science does not progress via a linear accumulation of new knowledge, but undergoes periodic revolutions, also called “paradigm shifts” (although he did not coin the phrase), in which the nature of scientific inquiry within a particular field is abruptly transformed. In general, science is broken up into three distinct stages. Prescience, which lacks a central paradigm, comes first. This is followed by “normal science“, when scientists attempt to enlarge the central paradigm by “puzzle-solving”. Thus, the failure of a result to conform to the paradigm is seen not as refuting the paradigm, but as the mistake of the researcher, contra Popper’s refutability criterion. As anomalous results build up, science reaches a crisis, at which point a new paradigm, which subsumes the old results along with the anomalous results into one framework, is accepted. This is termed revolutionary science.
As stated, Kuhn revealed the limitations of Popperian falsification theory by showing the way in which science exists in a scientific worldview or cultural space. This intrinsic worldview element to science, however, does not mean there are no better or worse theories than others, that none give us scientific objective insights. It simply means there is no myth of the given but rather contextualized truth worlds–which generally build upon key insights of earlier worlds.
Because of the adherence to a scientific frame, various scientists observe and seek out evidence confirming the already existing overarching theories. They form hypotheses influenced (if not directly deduced from) said dominant overarching theory (or paradigm cum worldview). The data that emerges via such experiments and observations is data (under almost all circumstances) that makes sense within the dominant paradigm.
Sometimes, however, data will emerge (via a more sophisticated technology perhaps or by sheer luck/accident, etc.) that will reveal new data which disconfirms the dominant scientific narrative. Here is where Kuhn adds an element missing in Popper–in Popper such data intrinsically falsifies the current paradigm. However Kuhn showed historically this was not necessarily the case and it required scientists to open creatively to new framework and thought. To allow themselves to think thoughts (or be thought by thoughts you might say) not arising within the current frame.
Take the move to quantum physics, a (uh-oh there’s the word) paradigmatic example of a scientific revolution.
What would become quantum physics grew originally out of Max Planck’s work on black box radiation experiments. The black box problem studied by earlier scientists had not received an adequate explanatory hypothesis which could predict the known/received data. Eventually Plank’s (correct) solution to the problem undermined the absolute truth of the current reigning physics paradigm. Into that (pun not intended) vacuum came quantum theories.
Or take Einstein and his two theories of relativity (special and general). In both Einstein had to conduct “thought-experiments” (gedankenexperiments) which were in a very real sense experiments of the mind. These thought experiments allowed Einstein to think outside the dominant framework of his day. In special relativity, it involved imagining himself traveling in a train moving at the speed of light. Light was imagined as a beam parallel to his train (which he could see out the window). He then asked, “what would happen to time in this scenario?” In general relativity he imagined himself free-falling in an elevator and asking what would be occurring gravitationally in such a moment?
The later question was particularly important as it allowed Einstein to think outside the framework of Newtonian physics–Newton could explain the effects of gravity but never could figure out what precisely gravity was (i.e. what caused it). Einstein therefore literally (in his imagination!!!) had to put gravity ‘up in the air’ in order to think without thinking/assuming it.
The resulting knowledge that gravity is a consequence of the curvature of space-time is a scientific revolution precisely in Kuhn’s terms. It is also correct. It will also one day undoubtedly (as the dominant framework) be overthrown, just as Newtonian physics was. Someone will figure out that the curvature of space-time is an invitation to a 15th dimensional portal or something I can’t imagine at the current time. It won’t overthrow all elements of Einstein’s physics–just as Newton’s insights still apply though they are now contextualized to predominantly flat space-time curvature (as in for example around Earth).
Kuhn used the word paradigm in two senses–the confusion of which has caused the misunderstanding of “Kuhnian-ism” (of which Kuhn himself said he was not a member) and I think lies at the root of Br. William’s misreading (albeit a fairly widespread misunderstanding I think).
Paradigm meant either 1. the scientific action/experiment itself. 2. The later interpretative theoretical frameworks within which the data (coming from the action) was set.
Both point to the socio-cultural element intrinsic to science–a point missed by Popper’s falsification work and the Vienna Circle’s logical positivism.
When postmodernists (often from cultural studies) talk about “paradigm shifts” they mean paradigm in the second later sense and usually miss the necessity of the former. i.e. You have to do something different to get different data to open your mind to a new theory. “Change the paradigm” becomes some quasi-magical belief system, relativization, and the “culturification” of science as (merely/only) a “language game” or discourse as people are just changing their nominal adherence to various “theories.” As in the classic, “natural selection is just a theory, man.” Which of course (in the scientific provenance) makes natural selection the second highest form of explanatory power behind only a Law, of which there are scant few in science.
The image depicted at the top of this post is a better way (I hold) to think of the relationship between all these philosophies of science–though admittedly in a simplified format. The injunction-action strand qualifies as Kuhnian (in sense #1 used above), the second moment of observation/experience includes the Vienna School, the third strand interpretative includes Kuhn’s second meaning of paradigm as well as the work of Paul Feyerabend, and the last moment Popper’s verification work.
There are a couple of nice examples of paradigm shifts in the earth sciences that make the point well. The first is the Bretz floods in the Spokane Washington Area. Harlan Bretz detected evidence of these in the 1920s but got laughed out of a presentation on it in Washington. 40 years later it became accepted after the linkage to glacial lake missoula solved the source problem. This in particular stretched the paradigm of the time frame in which natural processes are to be looked at. (Human time scales are far to short for geological processes)
On a grander scale we have the whole plate tectonics revolution which overturned much of established geology in the 1965-1980 time frame and is continuing to remake geology. I think these examples may help the reader as well as the more physics oriented areas, as well as showing that scientific revolutions can happen at different scales.Report
This is helpful, as I think some of the reaction in the previous thread was based in part on William’s summary you quote (mine certainly was). (And to be fair to Mr. Brafford, I don’t think he was trying at a rigorous restatement of the thesis there, but merely a shorthand sketch of the idea from which to depart on his own musings.)
Chris/others, do you think Kuhn’s view of the structure of science’s progression is as revolutionary as perhaps his title suggests, or as it has been suggested it was within the context of extant structural-sociological understandings of the scientific enterprise extant at the time (1962)? It frankly seems like a quite insightful, plausible take on the subject it treats, but not one that itself should have effected that great a paradigm shift of its own in the structural understanding of what science does. But perhaps that view is just a phenomenon of being born and brought to these questions in a post-Kuhnian world myself…Report
Thanks for sticking up for me, Michael — I only brought up Kuhn as a way of leading to Allan Bloom! But I am glad we got to talk about this stuff. There are more good resources on Kuhn at the online Stanford Encyclopedia of Philosophy, which I prefer to Wikipedia.Report
Sorry William, I should have made that point clearer in my response.
Michael,
I think similar ideas were in the air at the time, but Kuhn’s book I think was a major achievement. It laid out a historical account, complete with politics, intrigue, human power dimensions and the like. If others were thinking along similar lines, nobody had previously put it together in such a persuasive fashion I would say.Report
Physics, physics, physics! That’s an area of science where newer understandings of nature often do mean that the previous system is totally replaced. But in other areas of science, it’s not that radical. The circulation of blood, studied many years ago, remains valid as a principle. In other branches a similar, step-by-step learning process is followed. But physics is different in that it’s attempting to find fundamental descriptions of how matter and energy interact. If, due to new theories and measurements, that description changes, then you can say a revolution has occurred. But I’m not so sure that the progress of science, and the behavior of scientists, is so capricious in other areas of study.Report
well let’s think of Darwin. Darwin goes to the G’pos islands. He undertakes a paradigm (injunction) as a naturalist. Following the cycle depicted above, he does his naturalistic practice, observes/collects/analyzes the data, and then fits the data within the then existing Linneaen system.
All within the current paradigm.
Where Darwin takes off (and initiates a revolution) is he asks what is the causal factor for this classification system of speciation? And more importantly, he purposefully decides at the beginning to ask, “How can this be explained without recourse to ‘supernatural’ factors?”
Darwin was heavily influenced by Charles Lyell’s work in geology (so I think the physics/biology distinction is not as hard as it may at first appear).
Another biology example would be Mendel’s pea plant experiments, which caused the paradigm shift to modern genetics.Report
They were buddies right? I wonder if people have similar problems with Lyell’s work as they do with Darwin? I’ve never heard anyone say, “the theory of slow-moving forces of geological change is a lie!” But I’d imagine Lyell was controversial, right?Report
absolutely lyell was (at the time) controversial. It’s not Darwin who disproved Bishop Usher’s 6,000 year timeline for all of human history. It was Lyell. The later theories of “biological eras” are roughly correlate to geological strata.Report
As cited the earth sciences represent areas where the theory works well. In fact it was the plate tectonics revolution that lead me to study geophysics. In spring 1970 here was a field where change was rampant and new ideas bubbled up all the time, compared to solid state physics which was staid and slowly changing. Clearly the earth sciences and biology are closely related. Another paradigm shift in methods in science in general is the arrival of computational science, where problems that used to be intractable and had to be simplified away can now be calculated with computer modeling.
I believe there are both paradigms with subject matter as well as paradigms with methods (or perhaps for the latter another name is generation change which implies a new view as the new generation arises)Report
These paradigm shifts are precisely what makes physics (and its related fields, astrophysics and cosmology) so exciting to follow… you never know what those wild ‘n wacky physicists will come up with next!
You may have noticed how scientific paradigm shifts are not always properly understood by the “larger culture.” Newton was ridiculed in contemporary cartoons, Darwin was caricatured as a monkey, the Theory of Relativity was notoriously misinterpreted as “relativism” and turned into a crude popular meme… so the next big paradigm shift in physics should be detectable by the amount of misinterpretation and bad jokes it generates…Report
How much damage does this really do to Popper, though? I’ve read both, and my own sense is that Kuhn doesn’t really disagree with Popper’s falsification model of science. He just claims that falsification comes in sudden bursts.
The result looks a lot like the theory of punctuated equilibrium in evolution — with a similar set of claims and counter-claims about P.E.’s relationship to classical evolution, its degree of originality, and the respective degrees of tension within the threads of thought in evolution and in the history of science.Report
some not all. It adds to Popper I would say.
With Einstein’s theory of special relativity, they still had to test whether it would predict phenomenon or not. Which it did in the ability to explain/predict Mercury’s retrograde motion (relative to Earth), a fact Newton was never able to fully account for.
The trouble with String Theory (or “M” Theory) is that (as of yet) it has no real capacity to observe an event that it could explain that quantum theory and/or general relativity could not. It qualifies (qua injunction and worldview) as a different paradigm relative to QT and GR, but it has no Popperian falsification moment, so it really can’t be accepted at this point full scale.Report
I can’t imagine what anybody would do with an objective certainty. I wouldn’t want one.
Maybe to beat up people you don’t like.
If you see an objective certainty flying around out there anywhere, kill it before it does harm to anyyone.Report
I dunno it sure would be nice to have objective certainty that medicine A is a safe and effective cure or treatment for disease B.
Don’t be scared probably non-existent objective certainty, you can hide out with me.Report
> I dunno it sure would be nice to have objective certainty
> that medicine A is a safe and effective cure or treatment
> for disease B.
I’d like a pony, too. We live in a probabilistic universe, not a universe of provable truths. If you want proofs, you have to go to mathematics, you can’t do it in science. In science, we don’t know what the axioms are.Report
I only said it would be nice, I didn’t say it was possible 😉
Ponies for everyone!Report
> As stated, Kuhn revealed the limitations of Popperian falsification theory by showing
> the way in which science exists in a scientific worldview or cultural space.
Not precisely.
Kuhnians vs. Popperians isn’t the “Postmodernism” vs. “Positivism” battle that most people think it is (clarification: “most people” being “many scientists who listened to a couple of lectures on philosophy of science but haven’t taken any more philosophy than your average high schooler).
Kuhn was writing a descriptive, historical narrative discussing the changing of scientific paradigms. Popper was writing a philosophical grounding for the sciences. Postmodernists have all jumped all over Kuhn as revealing that science isn’t about empiricism, but for the most part Postmodernists are doing so incorrectly (Kuhn himself famously said that he wasn’t a “Kuhnian”).Report
Memo to self: read the whole OP first next time, idiot.Report
Chris is right to say that string theory presents problems for/with Popper. Most of the time, this is taken as a problem for string theory. Yet I suspect it is a problem for Popper…. When people say that aspects of the material universe must be observable or else the description of them isn’t science, what I suspect they are really saying, at heart, is “the physical universe must arrange itself in such a way that it permits human scientific understanding.” Which would ordinarily be seen as the most flagrantly postmodernist anthropic reading, but here would actually be emanating from an objectivist source.Report
It’s not that the physical universe must arrange itself such that we can understand it. Rather, it’s that the business of science is only with those things in the physical universe that we can understand while using a particularly constrained toolkit. We remain free to construct other modes of thought, whether theology or string theory, as long as we don’t claim that they are in fact science. This was the treatment Popper gave Freudian psychoanalysis:
String theory I understand to be in the same category, at least for now. Perhaps some theoretical or practical advance will allow it to be tested in the future, which would mean we’d have to change how we think about it. Until then, the scientific toolkit doesn’t have a lot to work on.Report
But the way that people proceed from that is to then say, “so string theory can’t be an accurate model of the universe.” And that’s straight anthropics. The question is, what if string theory is a conceptually accurate vision of the physical universe? Should cosmologists stop thinking about it, working on it, out of a conviction that it isn’t science?Report
Well, yes, it would be wrong to say that string theory can’t be an accurate model of the universe. I’d think the proper thing to say is that it might be an accurate model. My understanding (and I’m right out at the edge of it here) is that it comports with observational data but adds many new things that are hard to test. So the answer has to remain “maybe.”
How much faith do we put in it? For the “new” parts of string theory, the question hardly matters. That which can’t be tested shouldn’t matter at all, should it? Once it can be tested, we know it matters.
The claims of Freudian psychoanalysis, however, mattered a great deal, despite their lack of falsifiability. They mattered in the medical and legal communities in some distinctly coercive ways, among other things. This is why Popper’s objections to Freud were really important, and why a Popperian objection to string theory is mostly a curiosity, except possibly in choosing whether to fund more theoretical work on string theory. One would think that the focus of such theoretical work should be to find ways of possibly falsifying the theory. That would dispel the objections once and for all.Report
I think therein lies the great question, though: what if the structure of the physical universe is such that it defies our ability to find experimentally satisfying (read: falsifiable) ways to understand it? As a matter of pure intuition (read: bullshit), it seems to me that the limits of science won’t come from a lack of pure computational or mathematical ability, but rather from a problem of perspective, which seems to be exactly the problem that string theory proceeds under. But then, I’m fantastically unqualified to have this discussion, so.Report
> What if the structure of the physical universe is such that
> it defies our ability to find experimentally satisfying (read:
> falsifiable) ways to understand it?
Parts of it are. There is no experimentally satisfying way of testing many of the structural hypothesis regarding black holes, for example. The current limits of our observational properties are well known in practice and the theoretical limits of our observational properties are fairly well understood as well, within the accepted bounds of our understanding. Our electron microscope technology, for example, has limited precision. No matter how good it gets we’re very unlikely to ever be able to break the Planck length barrier… at least not without a shift in understanding of the Universe that’s so significant the term “paradigm” wouldn’t even apply.
One of the drawbacks of any formal framework is that it cannot be consistent, complete, and correct. To paraphrase Gödel, “pick two”. You can only cram so much into a formal model before it breaks, that includes experimentally verifiable science.
That doesn’t mean that falsifiable science represents the end of knowledge (although a rational empiricist might claim so) or that anything like string theory doesn’t qualify as necessary or correct. I’m not a Popperian by any means, I don’t know that this iron-clad distinction between falsifiable empiricism and “other” is a necessary distinction in the entire domain of all science.
I’ll generally let the physicists decide inside their domain expertise what should or should not be considered applied and theoretical physics, and what the standard of evidence should be in either case.Report
“what I suspect they are really saying, at heart, is “the physical universe must arrange itself in such a way that it permits human scientific understanding.” ”
Who is actually saying this, though? Certainly not objectivists. Your rearrangement doesn’t make it so.Report