Joe Biden’s ’68 Throwback Special
At a campaign stop in Hanover, NH over the weekend, the end of former Vice President Joe Biden’s townhall event turned into story time with Joe about the not-so-good ‘ol days .
“My senior semester they (Robert Kennedy and Martin Luther King, Jr.) were both shot and killed,” Mr. Biden said. “Imagine what would have happened if, God forbid, Barack Obama had been assassinated after becoming the de facto nominee. What would have happened in America?”
I think of where we are at the moment. You know, none of you men are old — women are old enough, but a couple of you guys are old enough to remember. I graduated in 1968. Everybody before me was, drop out, go to Haight-Ashbury, don’t trust anybody over 30, everybody not getting involved. I’m serious, I know no woman will shake their head and acknowledge it, but you guys know what I’m talking about. Right? But then what happened? Dr. Ki— I only have two political heroes. I have one hero who was my dad, but I have two political heroes were Martin Luther King and Bobby Kennedy. My senior semester they were both shot and killed. Imagine what would have happened if, God forbid, Barack Obama had been assassinated after becoming the de facto nominee. What would have happened in America?
“Things changed,” he continued. “You had over 40 kids shot at Kent State on a beautiful lawn by the National Guard.”
That last bit was typical Joe Biden- it was 4 killed and 9 shot on that horrible day at Kent State. Not 40 thankfully, but no less tragic. The image of a screaming girl standing over a fatally shot man won the Pulitzer Prize and became indelible for a generation. The national trauma of two Kennedys and Martin Luther King, Jr. being assassinated were, like Joe Biden said they were for him, formative events to that generation.
The problem is, that was not only a generation ago, but nearly two generations ago. I’m bad at math, but I can keep 1968 straight. Last year we celebrated my parents 50th wedding anniversary, as they were married in 1968. That makes the assassinations and other turmoil of that year 51 years ago, or if you want to go with Kent State it’s 49 years from that bloody day in 1970.
I am either the youngest Gen Xer or oldest Millennial, depended on which numbers you use. I probably fit more into the former than the latter, as I grew up rather rural and traditional. My formative years meant escaping high school and stumbling into adulthood before the takeover of cell phones and the internet amalgamated the Millennials into the BigTech collective like the Borg. I think of the “major events” that may have shaped “my” generation, if there is such a thing. The 1998 midterm was the first election I could vote in, and the ensuing Clinton impeachment drama was formative to how I have viewed American politics ever since. I was already on active duty in the military when 9/11 happened, my phone ringing and ordering me to report for duty mere moments after the second plane hit. I was a homeowner trying to sell a home when the housing bubble popped and took the economy with it. I’ve had to pay for my family’s healthcare out of my own pocket through Cobra when in a transitional period, not long after the national debate on the Affordable Care Act. Confined to a hospital bed from August until November of 2016 I had my full fill and then some of the last presidential election and the coverage surrounding it.
And for all of my nearly 40 years of life the ’60s in America has constantly been referenced and discussed. Which is fine; there are plenty of things to learn, understand, and apply from that era. The historian I am at heart, no doubt influenced by a father who was a history teacher, I refer to the past as a marker and guide for the present and future to the point of annoyance. There are limits, however. Consider that discussing the 1960s in America today is the same as those folks in the 1960s discussing WWI-era America. Fifty years further back from that, and you would be discussing the actual shooting Civil War, not just today’s rhetorical allusions to one. Fifty years back from that, you have the White House Joe Biden is trying to return to gutted by flames at the hands of the British. Time is a funny thing, moving both rapidly and unnoticed, until you start taking 50 year chunks of it like story time with Joe did; all of the sudden the past is both really far away but strangely close to those who are old enough for 50 years to not seem that long ago.
Boomers, and those older, probably nod along to Joe’s story of those events. Boomers have been the dominant voting group in the country for a while. Depending on which numbers you use, Millennials either have or soon will surpass them. But more startling, when you combine the voting-age folks under 51, born since Joe Biden’s 1968 reference point, the numbers are a tidal wave of change. The 70 million Boomers give way to Millennials and Gen-Xers that now number by some estimates closer to 120 Million.
So aside from the gaffes, Joe-isms, and other parts of Biden waxing nostalgic, there is a fair question of how such things will land with the 2020 electorate. There are fair comparisons to be made in current turbulent political times with the past ones, but how much does that move the needle with folks? The knock on Joe Biden is that he is a front runner by default, the one people are settling on but not excited about. There are questions about his age — he would be the oldest elected president ever — not just for health and competency issues but also the undeniable truth that at some point, the world does pass you by.
How many in that 120 Million-odd that are 51 or younger would know what that Kent State photo is about without context? Probably most know about JFK being assassinated, but how many know about Robert’s murder during a primary? For a society that gets nostalgic about Stranger Things, which is set in the only 30-some years ago ’80s, it seems like teaching ancient history to bring up the Vietnam era outside of certain groups or settings. To many, anything before the advent of the smart phone is no longer the modern era.
The “is he too old?” conversation is not just one of physical and mental ability to perform the job. Time being the relentless force it is, it doesn’t stop, or pause, or wait. It is undefeated in its eternal competition against man and passes everyone by, usually just shortly before it ceases to be an issue at all thanks to time’s hunting partner, death. And those concerns are not just of the political nature. Fresh in my mind is the conversation and something of a running joke in my family about my own grandfather, who was within weeks of being the same age as Ronald Reagan. Grandad admired President Reagan, thought the world of him, and in the landslide re-election of 1984 he… refused to vote for him. “Men our age have no business being president,” he had declared in his calm but firm matter-of-fact tone we were all used to and knew better than to argue with. While open to disagreement, such integrity in selecting our candidates is far from the worst method.
Selecting a candidate based solely on nostalgia might well be one of those worst methods. Joe Biden is laying the nostalgia on thick; for the Obama years, for a bygone era, for times before now as if there were no problems whatsoever before the orange man descended the gold staircase and brought darkness with him. He’s gotten in a bit of trouble with nostalgia, reminiscing out loud about working with segregationist senators, and then with Senator Kamala Harris’s attempted decapitation strike over busing. Neither seemed to have hurt Biden in polling, but they did exhibit the 50 years of public life Joe Biden brings to the table, for good or ill. Go back far enough, and the very word nostalgia began not as an emotional term but a medical one for a returning, unwanted medical condition.
In mixing various forms of story time with Joe, Biden is trodding the well-worn paths of politicians who try to pitch themselves as the leader of now by appealing to the past and projecting that into the future. The question is, how far into the past can he reach without losing his grip on the present, or the audience he needs to win more than just 30% of a 20-odd person primary field.
Time will tell. Then again maybe it won’t, or at least won’t tell it correctly.
The image of the screaming girl and the fatally shot man that day at Kent State is a picture of two people who have names. Jeffrey Miller is the one on the ground, having been shot through the mouth by a National Guardsman 265 feet away. He died almost instantly. The image of Mary Ann Vecchio kneeling and screaming over him will probably live forever. The question is, with the passage of time, even if those born since then look at the photo and learn its story, does it have the same impact it used to have, when it was still fresh? For Miller, time ceased to have any meaning at all, tragically and senselessly. His final act may or may not have been to fling a tear gas canister at those who would thereafter kill him. For Vecchio, it was the start of a troubled life. She wasn’t a student, as most who see the picture assume, but a 14-year old runaway from Miami. Her father recognized her from the photo once it went nationwide, and had her returned to the family thereafter, but in her own words “It really destroyed my life, and I don’t want to talk about it.” That was quoted in 1990, and she has since seemingly made peace with the events and her role in them, having appeared at memorial gatherings since.
For Vecchio what is nostalgia brought very real pain. The events Joe Biden talked about probably brought similar emotions for many that remember them. But they also have the potential to elicit a “not this story again” reaction from people who have heard it so many times and seen the image enough that they are just numb to it. Such is the effect of time, regardless of politics. All that anger eventual turns into something else, whether it be acceptance, bitterness, or something else. It raises the question, how will these turbulent days of our nation be remembered? Joe Biden is running to “restore the soul of America.” President Trump ran on “Make America Great Again.” Both are nostalgic pitches, from very different angles. Trump’s pitch, combined with his force of personality worked, and worked so well as to render to his supporters all failings, issues, gaffes, and scandals mute.
The nostalgia Joe Biden is pitching and the personality he shows, along with his own gaffes and scandals that sunk his first two presidential bids, are now in the dock to be judged. Whether the pitch of two generations ago can pull the numbers Joe Biden needs to unseat Donald Trump, or even survive his own party’s primary, remains to be seen. Even his nostalgia for the Barack Obama days, a mere three years ago, seem to some to be too much of a throwback for someone pitching to be the future. If the gaffes continue to pile up — and they will if history has taught us anything with Joe Biden — will his “been there, done that” reaches to the ’60s pair with his constant reminders of being Barack Obama’s VP to form a winning combination. Will it be enough to overlook his shortcomings in a primary where the younger wing is loudest but the older wing still, for now, isn’t ready to full cede the moment?
As always, time will be the judge of that. Wonder what folks will think and remember of this election 50 years from now? That is, if they do remember it at all.
According to one recent poll (but from a reliable outfit) Biden, Warren, and Sanders are essentially tied for first place and Biden continues his tradition of gaffing himself out of a lead. I admit that the poll had a margin of error of 5.7 percent and Biden probably still has commanding leads among older African-American voters (though apparently Warren is rising with this group).
Biden is very old. Trump is very old. I think Trump is showing clear signs of dementia and decline. Papa Trump had Alzheimer’s so there is a pattern. I think a lot of Biden’s gaffes might be the sign of the same cognitive decline but in a less asshole, stupid, and evil form.
In my ideal world, there would be nothing wrong with discussing whether someone is too old for a leadership position in politics, business, professions, academics, etc. But the Baby Boomer generation gave us “hope I die before I get old” and the conclusion then is don’t die. There are lots of silent generation and baby boomer types who are old but clearly do not want to retire anytime soon or hand over reigns of power to the next generations.
I also maintain that Biden’s strong lead so far is not because many Democrats agree with him policy wise (sorry North!) but because he is a known quantity and a lot of Democrats just want Trump gone. This is causing all sorts of calculations on removing risk factors and I think a lot of voters might look at 2016 and determine being a woman is a risk factor. This is changing though.
Also compared to Trump’s decree by tweet, temper tantrums, and clear corruption (let me profit from the next G7 meeting!), Biden’s memory gaps and flubs seem harmless.Report
Sigh. Joe Biden was born in 1942. Which makes him age 20 in 1962, and age 26 in 1968. Is he graduating from college in 1968? This is a very typical kind of politician thing.
I’m sure Kent State had a big impact on him, as it did on me, even though I was barely in high school at the time. By the time of the 5th anniversary, I was in college though, and I participated in my one and only political protest by refraining from going to class on the 5th anniversary. I’m pretty sure most of my professors did the same thing, so outrageous was the behavior of the National Guard that day, and so outrageous was the behavior of the administration in response.
But to many, yeah, it’s ancient history. I also think Biden is too old to be president, though I’d be happy to vote for him if he’s the nominee. And if he gets the older folks like me riled up and ready to give and vote, that’s good. Biden is clearly a team player.Report
Is he graduating from college in 1968?
Law school, according to Wikipedia. Never heard 3L students referred to as “seniors,” but I didn’t go to law school. Saul?Report
Excellent piece!
I think Biden’s only got this far because everybody, even on the right, have warm feelings for him. Brilliance and likability are separate traits, and although Biden is of above average intelligence (an admittedly low bar), his memory’s database index system was never a highly tuned piece of wetware. The older he gets, the more he’s going to become Forest Gump, hazily aware of all the world-shaking events that happened around him and pretty vague on the details, but still smiling Uncle Joe.Report
Iowa is a pretty politically-savvy electorate and Warren has done a good job there. I think her and Sanders will split NH due to their current home states. That leaves SC. Question is, does Biden get the Obama love or do they abandon him? We could possibly not have a clear front-runner even after the First Three primaries.
I know I have said this many time, but as a proud GenXer, I’m so done with the Baby Boomers. I would begrudgingly vote for Warren but Biden and Sanders can suck an egg.Report
Just a note for you and Saul, and maybe others: Boomers are not the largest population group in the US. This ended about 5 years ago. They may still be the largest voting bloc, because people vote more reliably as they get older, as a general rule.
The world is yours. Meanwhile, just for fun, I looked up the birth year of some recent presidents, and got:
Trump 1946
Obama 1964
George W. Bush 1946
Bill Clinton 1946
George HW Bush 1924
Ronald Reagan 1911
Jimmy Carter 1924
Gerald Ford 1913
Richard Nixon 1913
I don’t have good enough knowledge of stats at my fingertips to say whether all those doubling and tripling of birth years is easily explainable by coincidence or not. But it looks kind of fishy to me, as if there were some biases in birth year. We know that birth year introduces biases into other measures of social success (being born in the 30’s was practically a guarantee of professional success, for instance). Maybe that applies to the presidency, too?
Which would explain your irritation with Boomers, since three presidents were born in the first year of the Baby Boom, and one at the end (or just after the end, depending on who’s counting).
But that puts them far away from my own birth year (1956). That’s about as far away as it’s possible to be for someone isn’t just a lot younger than presidents usually are. So I don’t really relate to any of them on a generational basis, in spite of whatever demographic grouping we might be said to belong to.
Just sayin’. All the stuff about Boomers over the years never really seemed to have much to do with me. And Joseph Robinette Biden, born in 1942, is not, in fact, a Baby Boomer.Report
Interesting. Bush, Clinton, and Trump all the same age, yet three men who could not be more different.Report
They were all immature. Bush sobered up and put it behind him. Clinton and Trump never denied themselves a thing. I admire Bush, and I hate to lump him with those other two, but there’s a Boomer self-indulgence that all of them exhibited.
It’s weird. One part of me thinks that generational analysis is high-class astrology. But I look at Biden, and I think of him as a different generation. A four year difference? It seems so much greater. Maybe it’s because of what this article is about, his half-remembered stories of the 1960’s, or maybe it’s that I remember his softness toward the Soviets and their allies; I don’t know. But I recently referred to him as “old-school”, and I would never think of using that term for the other three.Report
No one born in the 1950’s will likely ever be President. No one born in the 1930’s was.Report
I had thought we’d only get two Boomer presidents. When Obama won, I read it as the country deciding to move past Boomerdom. I really didn’t expect us to go backward chronologically. I guess if Biden would win, we’d go Boomer Boomer post-Boomer Boomer pre-Boomer, but I don’t think we’d ever go Boomer again after that.
But I could be wrong. One thing that keeps coming up in these conversations is a formal or informal age limit on the presidency, but I oppose that. Especially with our increased understanding and tech. A person of X age in 10 years will have a realistic expectation of more years of health than a person of X age 10 years ago.
Oh, I missed my sarcastic opportunity – no one was born in the 1930’s.Report
Eh…
Obama was born in 1961.
It says so on his birth certificate.Report
You are correct. That was the only one I didn’t look up, because I thought I remembered it. Thank you.Report
> three presidents were born in the first year of the Baby Boom
https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/9/95/Legendary_kiss_V%E2%80%93J_day_in_Times_Square_Alfred_Eisenstaedt.jpg
This picture was taken August 14, 1945. During the time frame of 10 months to 12 months after that date, three US Presidents were born.
> one at the end (or just after the end, depending on who’s counting)
Due to the circumstances of his birth and his upbringing, I would be loathe to classify Obama as a baby boomer.Report
Why?Report
I don’t know what Frank’s answer would be but see my comment below.
Originally the Baby Boom was just a population cohort defined as a literal big bunch of babies born in the wake of GI’s returning home after WW2 and starting families that had been delayed by the war. It wasn’t until later that we started naming other vaguely defined generations and ascribing cultural significance to it all. It feels a bit like modern-day horoscopy to me. But maybe I would feel that way being on the cusp between boomers and X-ers, and not really being able to solidly identify with either.Report
His parents met as college students well after the end of World War II. Neither of them were in the war. Obama then spent a great part of his childhood in Indonesia. Plus the US birth rate had started to fall by 1961.Report
Fair enough.
I was born in Dec of 1960 as the youngest of 6, and like Road Scholar, I feel very little like a Boomer since our childhoods were so very different.
And yeah, the named generation thing seems quite a bit overblown as an explanatory tale of generations.
One of the things I’ve noticed is that there are bigger differences within any given generation than between them.Report
And yeah, the named generation thing seems quite a bit overblown as an explanatory tale of generations.
I think there’s something to the concept in the way that events or conditions will have different effects on your worldview depending on how old you were at the time, and I think the late childhood and teenage years are especially important in that regard since that’s when you become aware of the outside world. But I also think the current defined divisions are mostly bs and meaningless.Report
If you are too young to have been in the active draft (or have all your friends be drafted) you are a product of a certain experience.
The next really big, truly fundamental change in how people grew up was connectivity – if you and your cohort had internet and a cell phone in high school then that’s a good dividing line.
I’m a borderline Xer / Millenial, and I was pre cell phone for high school and most of college (81)Report
Yeah, the draft was a big deal (thank you, Dick Nixon, for saving me from having to make a really hard choice).Report
It changed people’s view on the government. In ways that are still recussing down the political spectrum.
I think that there is a very undertold story to be made for conservatism in the 90’s to late 00’s that is really people who have a good reason to limit government power (I was/could have been drafted into Vietnam war) swinging hard for the eff the government vote.Report
Obama lived in Indonesia for 4 years.
It dep2nds on who you read but starting dates for GenX are generally given as 1961 to 1965. Obama being born in 1961 puts him on the very front of that. I consider him an honorary Gen Xer though, based on cool points.Report
Actually Obama was born Aug 4, 1961. Just a bit more than a year younger than me.
I know that demographers put me right at the end of the Boomers but I’ve never really identified as one. My oldest siblings were born in ’44, ’45, and ’46 — indisputably boomers — and our formative cultures were completely different.Report
As I replied to Chip: You are correct. That was the only one I didn’t look up, because I thought I knew it. Sigh.Report
“Just a note for you and Saul, and maybe others: Boomers are not the largest population group in the US. This ended about 5 years ago. They may still be the largest voting bloc, because people vote more reliably as they get older, as a general rule.
The world is yours.”
Most of my complaints surround BBs seemingly being unable to exit the job market and make room for the rest of us.Report
Get off of my lawn.Report
And turn that music down!Report
Two things. You mention that some people consider the period before the smart phone to be no longer the modern era. Though I am pushing 50, I consider myself in that group. I have a lot of memories, naturally, but to me they are almost all faded photos (ironic metaphor). Of course I have always lived in a period about ten years into the future. Today usually feels like a recent, vivid memory on the path to where I really am. Unfortunately, this can be a detriment as I find myself waiting impatiently for the world to catch up to my view of it.
The second; the idea that time passes people by usually just before death is, in my opinion, incorrect. I would argue that, for a great many people, time stops in their 20s and they begin living in a world that appears ever more alien to them.Report
You know, it may not be all due to age, as AOC has delighted us with her brain droppings yet again.
Yep. Older folks and prior generations didn’t question the government or protest a darn thing. Nosiree Bob.Report
So everyone is aware, this didn’t come from Twitter, so you can’t blame AOC for the extra apostrophe.Report