18 thoughts on “Three Things to be Thinking About When it Comes to Petraeus et al.

  1. My only thought of any significance was a vague hope that this would accellerate Obama’s ongoing disentanglement from the middle east and Afghanistan. With Petraus out that’s one less influential voice in favor of endless commitments.Report

  2. Kevin Drum’s latest post on it notes a few recent developments.

    Specifically, this bit from the NY times: “Later, the agent became convinced — incorrectly, the official said — that the case had stalled. Because of his “worldview,” as the official put it, he suspected a politically motivated cover-up to protect President Obama. The agent alerted Eric Cantor, the House majority leader, who called the F.B.I. director, Robert S. Mueller III, on Oct. 31 to tell him of the agent’s concerns.”

    Basically, whole thing would have been closed (it looks like without the smitten FBI agent, it wouldn’t have been opened at all, because the emails barely rose to the level of harassment) but said smitten FBI agent got Cantor involved, apparently believing it was somehow some Benghazi conspiracy theory issue.

    Which means Petreaus was undone — and possibly Allen now — by a tin-foil hat wearing wingnut.Report

      1. Actually, no. Reading the set of pieces Kevin linked, the FBI was basically gonna close the investigation.

        The initial complaint was, if not baseless, not worth prosecuting. Petreaus would probably have been informed, as I would imagine a few other CIA officials would have been, but it wouldn’t have gone public.

        Just would have been filed in the FBI, like a bunch of other stuff the FBI does that doesn’t lean to arrests, prosecutions, or anything else.Report

          1. Well, in the sense that if the generally hadn’t been dipping his pen in the company ink, there would be no issue, yes.

            OTOH, if a smitten FBI agent with a tin-foil conspiracy theory hadn’t run to Cantor, all of this would have remained the usual sort of office-place gossip and undoubtly a very interesting (in the Chinese sense) personal chaos.

            My initial wondering of why the heck the FBI was so involved in a simple affair — much less devoted so much resources to it (admittedly, having the head of the CIA open to blackmail is Bad but that’s now how it started) has been resolved.

            Someone asked their FBI buddy who had a crush on them to help out. And he did.Report

            1. “My initial wondering of why the heck the FBI was so involved in a simple affair”

              Um, the director of the CIA screwing around with the person extensively interviewing him on a daily bases is not a simple affair. It’s a massive security risk.

              I mean, maybe if this was “he went out to party one night and picked up some BBC stringer who was gone from his bed before he woke up”, that’s one thing. This was very much not that.Report

              1. No, it STARTED as one person complaining to the FBI that she was getting “threatening” emails.

                Those emails were so mild that the FBI got it to “maybe” on the mildest possible form of harassment. It was literally inconsequential, a million times less threatening than any major blogger sees a dozen times a day.

                Where it ENDED was not “a simple affair”. Where it started was one woman complaining about midly annoying emails from another woman, which is where in the real world it would have ended.

                Unless you have friends in the FBI, and one of them wants in your pants.Report

        1. “Reading the set of pieces Kevin linked, the FBI was basically gonna close the investigation.”

          …because of who they were investigating.

          If you or I had been some keyboard-basher in the CIA, and it came out in a background investigation that we were having an extramarital affair, we wouldn’t even be allowed to clean out our desk. But for the People In Charge, the rules are different.Report

  3. Someone seriously needs to create a timeline because it’s all looking very complicated unless you’re following the story obsessively.

    Always remember, never forget: when the small brain takes over, the large brain might as well go flying out the window.Report

  4. So are we all in agreement then that when a political figure has an inappropriate affair that the appropriate action is to step down from office?Report

    1. The fear is that a clandestine affair leaves a person open to blackmail. If he is hiding something he can be controlled by fear of having the affair be made public. Thats the theory. Of course now that the affair is public he can’t be blackmailed with it. On the other hand his affair partner could be seen as a subordinate of his at times, which means what he did was inappropriate in a another way (besides just the affair. )Report

    2. Open marriages are fine at high levels. One must not breach contract with one’s SO through dishonesty, lest one be open to blackmail.
      (*cough* you think Hillary didn’t know her husband cheated on her? Before he got to the white house? *cough*)Report

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