Who do you like in the second?
Presuming that Mitt is indeedy the nominee, which seems to be locked in at this point…
… who’s the Veep pick?
I will say it’s not going to be Santorum or Newt or Perry… or any of the other candidates that have come along so far.
There are people I would pick and people that are likely to actually get the nod. If I was picking someone I would go JFK-esque and pick a Southern governor (JFK picked a senator but it’s the same strategy). Maybe Haley Barbour.
As for who he WILL pick – man, I’m at a loss. I definitely agree it won’t be anyone from the presidential race.Report
After the pardons fiasco I can’t imagine Haley Barbour will be allowed anywhere near national prominence again by Republicans.Report
Bobby Jindal?Report
Even though Mitt is a white male, he is Mormon – which makes me think that there is going to be a perception (incorrect, IMO) by the leadership that there needs to be a white, male, real Christian on the ticket.
I might be wrong, but I just think it’s not going to be a woman, a non-Protestant, a person of color, or a moderate.Report
I might be wrong, but I just think it’s not going to be a woman, a non-Protestant, a person of color, or a moderate.
That may well be correct, but I don’t think it’s a good strategy. If I were Romney, I would be taking a serious look at Condoleezza Rice.Report
I agree with this.Report
Heh heh. Condi Rice?!? Well, in the GOP, nothing succeeds quite so well as a track record of failure. Triple play, fucking up 9/11, Iraq and gettin’ played by Rumsfeld and Cheney both. Report
Condi bested Cheney for influence. She did well.
http://www.nytimes.com/2011/10/23/world/in-memoir-condoleezza-rice-tells-of-clashes-with-cheney.html?_r=1Report
Overall and ultimately, no she didn’t, Mr Van Dyke. And her administrative skills while at the State Department were abysmal, as demonstrated by the passport fiasco on her watch.
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That shows her bestng Albert Gonzales, not Cheney. Baby Seal != Piranha.Report
Haley Barbour is toast. He’s been shilling for Iran and taking money from sinister ministers.Report
There was also that totally odd pardon he did upon exiting the governorship.Report
Whoops, the distinguished Gentlegame from the Price is Right already said this.Report
Who would I like to see? Well, I won’t be voting for the Massachusetts Cylon, regardless of whom he picks, but, if it has to be Mitt, then I’d like to see a civil-liberties-minded VP, someone like Rand Paul, but with less animosity toward progressive domestic policies.
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Progressive domestic policy is bad, so why should we be opposed to someone with animosity towards it?Report
Because some of us care about the 99%, and the 0.001% is already amply represented on a Romney ticket?Report
Nikki Haley. Southern governor, as Mike suggests, and easy on the eyes. As a Christian not born into the faith, she’d be able to excite those religious conservatives who don’t trust Romney’s Mormonism, and as a child of immigrants, she would validate Republican policies against undocumented immigrants. She’s got Tea Party cred, too.Report
Yeah, the more I think about it, as a social liberal concerned mainly about Supreme Court nominees, I really hope Romney doesn’t pick Nikki Haley, because that might really work out well for him.Report
Haley had an extra-marital affair issue, didn’t she? That might matter more in a national race. I think she’s also being investigated for tax fraud.Report
I agree Haley is a strong candidate for the pick. She supported Romney when the tide of South Carolina went heavily for Newt, other than said endorsement, she was a definite Tea-Party favorite. I’ve not seen much from her that leads me to know if she’ll fare well on a national stage but I can’t imagine she’ll the the worst veep candidate of my adult life in that regard.Report
I think Haley might get passed if for no other reason than it stirs bad memories of Palin.Report
It’s definitely possible – I certainly don’t think Romney will feel he needs to pick a candidate for identity reason outside of ‘not a Mormon’ .
With Romney, I feel like if we can settle on the right formula, his pick is going to be so blindingly predictable that this exercise will only be filing in the variables.
The question for me is what does he need most in the general election? Is it Southern enthusiasm and money? If so, someone like Haley or Mike Huckabee make sense. Is it enthusiastic turnout among Tea Party conservatives in purple states, then they certainly don’t.
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Aside from the potential extra-marital affair, looks like she’s about to get indicted for tax fraud: http://www.outsidethebeltway.com/nikki-haley-could-be-indicted/
So, probably not a good idea. I don’t think Mitt will choose a woman. Not his style.Report
Four women, maybe. (Newt would pick a woman, dump her in September, pick another woman, etc.)Report
South Carolina Gov. Nikki Haley’s office Friday provided IRS documentation that she is not facing investigation for tax fraud, calling accusations that she was “totally contrived.”
Haley denied the rumors of a looming tax indictment on Thursday. The rumors were based on an anonymously sourced blog post alleging that the Internal Revenue Service was investigating possible tax fraud at a Sikh center where the governor’s parents are top officials. The Palmetto Public Record claimed Haley managed the temple’s finances as recently as 2003 and implicated her in a failure by the temple to pay contractors. The governor denied keeping the books for the church.
Haley’s office provided The Hill a copy of the letter from the IRS to the Sikh temple that finds no investigation was warranted.
“After further consideration of your organization, we have determined that an investigation is not warranted at this time for the above tax period,” the letter states.
The Public Record alleged that an investigation into possible wrong doing had been ongoing since March 2011. According to the IRS, the letter was sent in late September or early October.
“As we said from the very beginning, there was not an ounce of truth to any of these accusations – they were totally contrived, totally false, and it is a tremendous shame that once again the good names of the governor and her family were dragged through the mud by a media all too eager to believe anonymous sources and unaccountable bloggers,” said Haley spokesman Rob Godfrey.
http://thehill.com/blogs/blog-briefing-room/news/219333-irs-not-investigating-nikki-haley-for-alleged-tax-fraud
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I hadn’t thought of Nikki Haley, but she’s a good one. Marco Rubio, Paul Ryan?Report
I thought about Rubio and Ryan but I think b oth of them have plans for 2016. They won’t want to risk getting the stink of defeat on them running with Mitt on the possibility that he loses. Think Liberman and Edwards.Report
Well, Lieberman had pissed off Dems in the meantime. But I hear you on Edwards (Dems didn’t yet know how much he stank).Report
Maybe Lieberman will agree to be part of the ticket. I’m sure he would have taken it had McCain offered. Then again, Mormon and Jew really won’t play well to the base.Report
Analysis: Mitt ain’t got nobody.
1) His base is OLD. They gonna bitch and carp if he don’t find a foreign policy candidate for VEEP.
2) He needs to get the Teapartiers to be happy. This is mutually exclusive to point 1, for choosing a politician as runningmate.
3) He needs to settle the evangelical South down, and that means picking an Evangelical, if possible, and definitely a Southerner.
4) Most importantly, he can’t choose someone who’s gonna want to stab him in the back.
If this was the Democrats running, I’d say Wes Clark would be a decent choice (Arkansas, General, willing to make statements that are a little left of what you’d expect from a general: “global warming is the biggest national security issue of the next century”).
If I were Romney, I’d dig up a Southern general, get him to make a few wild statements, and pretend like the teaparty likes him. Since the teaparty gets most of its news from Fox, expect this to go over pretty well.Report
Rubio’s a star. Great looks, great rap. Longshot: Jim DeMint. He owns the Tea Party, speaks libertarian.
http://reason.com/blog/2012/02/07/sen-jim-demint-why-republicans-must-beco
Bobby Jindal is eminently qualified, excellent record as Louisiana gov, ex-congressman, ex-undersecretary of something or another. But probably needs more polish on the national stage [whereas Rubio’s a natural].
Gov. Mitch Daniels, who would have won but didn’t run because of funky stuff his wife did [ran away from him and the kids, although she eventually came back]. Mebbe they’ll go easy on the gossip if he’s only VP.
My man has always been John Kasich. He’s already straightened out Ohio’s financial mess, and has finally got to break-even in the polls, after being underwater almost since his election in 2010. A little more in the plus column, and if he could swing Ohio for Romney, he da man.
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A general? Wonder if he could get Petraeus… Republicans like him well enough, and he seems to lean more toward the Republicans than the Dems.Report
Why not Santorum? He hasn’t ruled out running as VP (which is as good as saying he wants the job), he’s obviously a great attack dog, socially conservative, and not stupid.
The ones who poll best, like Bobby Jindal or Chris Christie, probably won’t accept the job.Report
Just thought a of reason not to pick Santorum – no way Pennsylvania goes into the Republican column with him on the ticket!Report
“…not stupid.”
Are we sure of that? I thought Santorum rounded into form back in January. He fared better in debates and seemed to understand his role in the campaign and took to it. Then all hell broke lose recently.Report
I don’t think he’s stupid. Poor impulse control, maybe?Report
I suppose simply saying he’s stupid is oversimplying. He doesn’t present as particularly intelligent and makes a lot of dumb mistakes and says a lot of dumb things. If your opponent can easily portray you as stupid (which I think can be said of Santorum), than perception quickly becomes reality.Report
Biden says dumb things all of the time, but I don’t think anyone thinks he’s stupid. Santorum can play on his level at least!Report
True, but hasn’t Obama pretty much locked Biden in a closet? He’s not exactly front and center, maybe for good reason.
Santorum, fairly or not, is already the butt of jokes on the left. The GOP needs to choose someone that makes Dems shit their pants, not laugh. Interestingly enough, Palin did this, at least initially. I knew someone who worked deep inside the Obama campaign who said they were thrown for quite the loop when she was announced (she said this in early September ’08, so it was not revisionist history, but a genuine response in the immediate aftermath of the announcement). They didn’t have a file on her and didn’t know how to respond. Unfortunately, it seems, neither did the McCain campaign. Still, the GOP, besides seeking a qualifed VP, would be wise to choose someone that gives Dems pause instead of giggle fits.Report
Biden works with Hillary, going places and talking with people he knows (foreign policy guy). He plays “bull in the pen” when needed, but he’s not a very capable rabble-rouser.Report
I think Santorum is a definite possibility. He actually wants the job and would be far less odious than Newt. He’s got experience on the national stage and has shown that he can appeal to the base. And, should Mitt win, he can basically lock Santorum in the closet and only let him out when he needs to rile up the Tea Party types.Report
too backstabby, i think.Report
Dare I say, Huntsman might have the broadest appeal in a general election, but…
what’s that thing that’s separated from State that matters so much to people called again?Report
huntsman’s too mormon.Report
Plus two Mormons on the ticket will cause the base to freak out completely.Report
you mean two cousins, right? they’re both pratts.Report
I’ll go with Gordon Smith.Report
another mormon?Report
Huh. Excellent point. I withdraw Smith.Report
Is JEB doing anything?Report
I think he’s currently working on getting people to focus only on the “Jeb.”Report
No way.
Jeb out-hefts Romney, and out-thinks, and out-politics him. Having Bush as his number two would make Romney look even more like the weak tea that he is.Report
ya. alla jeb’s backers be hoardin’ their money for 2016. no way he’s in.Report
Waiting for the radioactivity of the Bush name to die down?
I wonder if George W Bush will get to speak at the convention this summer.Report
Bet on it. Bet the rent.
Standing ovation for at least a minute before he can open his mouth.Report
GWB might be popular with everyone in the convention center, but I don’t see it playing well on the outside. A Bush speech in a primetime slot would be a gift for the Obama campaign.Report
Given the last couple of months, I don’t see Republican leadership asking “but will this play into the hands of the opposition?” that often.Report
Ecch, if the last few outings are any guide, they’ll pick some cheerful female unknown. Hopefully not as divisive or stupid as Palin. Maybe Lynn Jenkins or someone like her.Report
… coz if the GOP has a problem these days, it’s with women.Report
I think Mitt should pick the Ghost of Ronald Reagan – both literally and metaphorically – as his running mate.Report
Zombie Reagan!Report
Oh, come on, Ron Reagan may be a liberal but that doesn’t mean he’s a zombie!Report
He doesn’t need a governor, he’s got that. Oddly enough I see Kimmie as hitting the right notes: he needs foreign policy and an evangelical. He can’t get both..
Time to think outside the box. The best thing that could happen to Mitt right now would be for SCOTUS to uphold PPACA. Then it doesn’t matter who he picks, because whoever he pisses off in the base by not picking towards them will vote for him anyway, and they’ll still turn out because they need the seat. At which point he can pull a rope a dope and pick someone who appeals to the independents and actually still have a shot at winning the prize.Report
Christie’s, Rubio’s and Bush’s backers all have the knives out for Romney. I don’t think he’s got a prayer.Report
Christie’s thrown his support to Romney (and threw it early).
This, of course, should not be read as me saying “therefore his backers have too” but insofar as Christie has influence over his backers, I imagine the knives are aimed elsewhere.Report
Zilch. Christie’s backers want Christie as president. which means keeping 2016 open.
And good boys and girls throw behind the frontrunner — even fi they want a go the next time.Report
I don’t have a specific name in mind, but considering where Mitt’s continuing shortcomings with his base & the image he gives off to the general electorate come from, I’m thinking his campaign settles on a congressman from the South that’s more socially conservative than him, has either been involved with foreign policy or is a veteran, and can give a passable nod at populist pandering.
I can’t think of who matches that off the top of my head, so obviously this would be another pluck from relative obscurity pick if true.Report
Lindsey Graham fits that bill to a T.Report
Plus Graham has the ability to appear human–a skill Mitt has yet to master. Mitt probably shouldn’t pick a second android for the ticket.Report
Not sure how well he’d fit the populist bit. My info on him is admittedly shallow.Report
Graham has long had some problems with the base.Report
This comes as news to me. Please expand.Report
There are persistent rumors that he’s gay.Report
Ecch, if he is, he’s so far in the closet he’s hiding in the shoe boxes. A quick check says he voted for DOMA.Report
Anyone who’s over 50 and never married is basically gay, or so the story goes. See also David Souter.Report
He was, until the Tea Party came along, the picture of a Republican moderate , closely aligned with the pre-Palin John McCain.Report
I always sorta liked Lindsey Graham. Maybe that’s part of the problem, that a big ol’ Liberal like me will grudgingly admit a guy like Graham ( and Orrin Hatch ) are principled opponents.
You see, this profession is filled to the brim with unrealistic motherfuckers.Report
I think Romney would go for someone with cred inside the Beltway; a Senator.
It would have to be a Senator from a solid R state, with Tea Party & so-con cred.
But all I’m coming up with is Kyl– not a good choice.Report
Coburn maybe.Report
He wouldn’t be a bad choice for Mitt. He’s got some whacky positions (he’s a right-wing Republican after all) but he’s an evangelical budget cutter who’s shown some willingness to compromise with the Democrats (not the compromise is appealing to the base but it definitely appealing to the more sane elements of the party).
Now, does he meet that all important non-android test?Report
I’ve read that Obama and Coburn are good friends, ideology notwithstanding. If that’s true I wonder if he’d be willing to run against him.Report
Yeah, Coburn’s the type of guy I’d hate if it was 1994, but seems reasonable in 2012. He’s a right-wing socially conservative budget-cutter, but at least he accepts the idea we might need to raise revenue.Report
I’d bet on a westerner like Kyl, only younger. My real hope is that whomever he picks will be a gamechanger.Report
McDonnell, not about ticket balancing or gender politics or any of that, but clearly reframing the narrative of the election. Our team has demonstrated intelligence and competence, your team is a bunch of droolers.
Time to put Jordan and Pippen back in the game, time to put Cliff Levingston and Luc Longley back on the bench.Report
You mean Bob “Sticking rods up women’s vaginas sounds like a good idea to me” McDonnell?Report
That’s the thing, the state legistature almost screwed him by pushing that thing, but he managed to get them to back off. (It still may stick to him in the general, but not nearly as much as it would if it had reached his desk)Report
And to clarfy “he managed to get them to back off” should probably be put in a more passive voice, but nontheless, that thing is tabled (in the chamber where the Republicans have an overwhelming majority to do whatever the heck they want).Report
Do you think that if the bill hadn’t come up during the height of the birth control stuff, that it would’ve been tabled?
Hell, I’m sure there’s plenty of speeches from the campaign/early part of his administration where he supported the idea fully.Report
If the bill hadn’t come out during the height of the birth control stuff, the bill might have been the thing to kick the whole thing off. But that Republicans are anti-abortion is a given (and longstanding) fact.
The political center of gravity overall on abortion is formed by a majority who want to keep it legal in most cases, but a different (and necessarily overlapping) majority who dislike the practice. So ‘ultrasounds before abortion’ seems on the surface to be enough of a Solomonic political figurative baby split to be acceptable enough to squishy moderates – until everyone realizes that they’re not just signing up for someone putting a wand on a jellied belly. But that *is* what most everyone thought they were (and I’ll bet you it’s what McDonnel thought he was) were signing up for.Report
http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/right-turn/post/whom-will-romney-pick/2012/04/01/gIQA7sDcpS_blog.html
For good or ill Jennifer Rubin and I are reading this the same way, so either we’re both right or we’re both wrong.
Politically this is a way different world from 2008, where among other problems John McCain was on the wrong end of the equation GOP = W = GOP = W = GOP. In the current environment Romney has the winning hand, he just has to play it. Romney must demonstrate and convince the voters that stratospheric unemployment is some immutable fact of nature, but a contingent reality occurring as the result of particular policy/cultural choices.
Time to put Jordan and Pippen back in the game.Report
Romney’s Jordan in this analogy? Will Perdue, more like…Report
No. Will Perdue et al is the Obama Administration, led by Captain Unemployment himself, with a dash of Solyndra and gunrunning to Mexican drug cartels.Report
Koz:
The IMF estimates the cost of the worldwide financial crisis at just under 12 trillion dollars. Just out of curiosity, do you honestly believe that any Presidency was going to prevent extended unemployment after that?Report
No, but the fact it went to double digits, and the fact that it stayed there as long as it did, really is the President’s fault, and that of his lib enablers in Congress and scattered throughout the country.
I know most of the threads are a matter of partisan jabbing back and forth. But no bullshit Pat, it really didn’t have to be that way. And it won’t be that way just as soon as Willard “Mitt” Romney takes the oath of office. Use just an ounce of imagination and vote Republican.
There’s no percentage in getting locked into a mindset of pessimism. Sometimes it seems like the smart move at the time, but that is just an illusion. What often appears to be an intractable situation is often a crumbling facade which dissolves away when we get properly grounded with our own intent and resources.
In this case, our real resources are the ability of us to engage each other in a spirit of trust, curiosity and aspiration. It is Democratic policy and the Democratic establishment that is the primary obstacle of that spirit. Get fkking rid of them yesterday.Report
You can’t imagine away things like basic economic principles, no matter how hard you try. Sorry buddy, reality doesn’t work that way and no matter of you parroting the party line will change that fact.Report
One obvious thing he could have done, if he hadn’t been trying to imagine away basic economic principles, is cut employer side payroll taxes instead of cutting them on the employee side. Wages may be sticky, but that doesn’t mean cost of employment has to be.Report
Re basic economic principles, I was talking more about the magical notion that anything in Romney’s policy playbook (and the stuff he’s shown so far is boilerplate supply-sideism bullshit) would actually cure anything.
There’s an argument to make that if employment is your chief concern, you want an employer side payroll tax cut versus and employee side. But it was my understanding that at the time they actually came up with the cut, they were more worried about a consumption/demand shortfall, rather than employment juicing.Report
Yeah, I agree on the topic of Koz’s magical thinking. But the irony of defending a guy whose campaign platform is basically “Seed corn in every pot” by reference to the impossibility of imagining away basic principles was a bit much for me.Report
What do you think basic economic principles are? The study of resources and their deployment perhaps? My guess is if you look at at the textbook you’ll see something along those lines.
You spazzed out at me the other day. Contrary to what North wrote, I didn’t bait you into that. Nonetheless it’s not a huge surprise either. It’s pretty typical reaction when fundamental building blocks of our psychology are crumbling away. Let’s make a wild guess that there was nothing too traumatic in your personal life at the time. In that case it’s pretty clear you are distraught over the possibility of PPACA being overturned by SCOTUS.
Instead of spazzing out, why can’t you take some responsibility for the corrupt advocacy of libs, of which you are obviously one. “I, as lib, who given America a gift of unemployment and misanthropy now have the opportunity to choose something different and I’m going to do that.”Report
If you had anything remotely useful to contribute to a discussion, I would actually engage your point rather than “spazz out” as you say.
But rather than that, I’m simply going to state that in the future, I’ll remember not to actually respond to you. Oh as a simple matter, you’re not welcome regarding comments on my own blog posts. Keep your shit to where I don’t have to see it.
As for my personal life, I do have a fair amount of drama and hardship going on. But you’re right, you’re not worthy of any response. I apologize, won’t happen again.Report
“If you had anything remotely useful to contribute to a discussion, I would actually engage your point rather than “spazz out” as you say.”
Oh but I do, Nob, I absolutely do. And underlying most of it is this: as we correspond with each other, either you and I in particular or people in general in forums such as this, we have to engage each other as we are situated. That means we have some measure of intelligence, imagination, private resources, and part of a collective claim to public resources. Good faith advocacy happens as we engage each other in these terms. Corrupt advocacy happens when we refuse to acknowledge each other this way or denigrate our interlocutors for the sake of stealing a base forensically.
Specifically as it pertains to libs, the problem is typically this: they want to claim private resources as public and following that, that public resources are theirs personally or proprietary to their political affiliation. For PPACA, it’s been pretty clear for at least a couple of years that libs have zero intention of forgoing or postponing their desire to have universal coverage in the American health care system no matter what the American people think or believe. That is simply corrupt advocacy and that’s what was exposed this week, much more than whatever we can reasonably blame SG Verrilli for.
“But rather than that, I’m simply going to state that in the future, I’ll remember not to actually respond to you. Oh as a simple matter, you’re not welcome regarding comments on my own blog posts. Keep your shit to where I don’t have to see it.”
Lovely. Got to protect the precious SWPL eyeballs from the uncomfortable consequences of what they want to impose on the rest of the world. For at least a few months that there’s been a decent-sized constituency among the regulars here to turn the League into an SWPL Journolist, and that may yet end up happening. Whether it does or not, the desire for it should be seen for what it is, cultural insularity. And the important consequence is this: you can enforce the cultural boundaries of what you’re willing to engage, but you can’t force the rest of the world to accept your boundaries as its own. And what happened this week is just one example of the cocoon being burst.Report
Corrupt advocacy happens when we refuse to acknowledge each other this way or denigrate our interlocutors for the sake of stealing a base forensically.
“The problem is the libs. Just get rid of them and the country will work fine”.
This kind of blanket statement issued by you (usually once or more on every single comment thread in which you participate) leads me to believe that you do not, in fact, regard anything said by anyone upon which you hoist the liberal flag as worthy of any sort of interest, Koz.
You start off most conversations on your own third base, where… “Ignore a third of the country and they’ll just go away” is base number one and “ignore all of the evidence that points to the fact that my team does most of the same things that I accuse the other team of doing whenever they get actual power to do them” is base number two.
You accusing anyone else of cultural insularity quite frankly blows my mind to smithereens.Report
Yah, PatC, I’m not good with Mr. Koz doing this tribal thing, and it’s prob forgotten how I’ve gone on record asking him to back off the Team Red/Team Blue stuff in the past.
Lately, I’ve had my own school of piranha on my every word and phrase, so I’ve been just a little busy, preserving my own existence here @ LoOG.
Koz is mostly the only one who attacks back. Not that it helps him any. You can’t counterattack a school of piranha. It doesn’t work that way.
Haven’t had space enough to ask Mr. Koz again to chill the partisanship-ideologue game. I used to do so. The funny thing is, the lefties attack [g]libertarianism just as they attack conservatism. Everybody’s on the defensive around here except the piranha. That’s the LoOG dynamic here lately.
I would ask management to pause and give our present predicament some thought.
Due the extremely negative tone, and lack of productivity and constructiveness of the conversation, I have decided (with permission) to close this thread.
I won’t say that negativity and lack of constructiveness has become the rule, but it has become accepted. I mean, I can hang with snark if it’s actually witty. “Actually witty” means that you tried to make the other guy chuckle, even if he’s the butt of the joke.
That’s sport, that’s good will. That’s how a “league of gentlemen” goes about its business. No gentlemanship, no “league.” League of barbarians. League of cannibals, we eat our own. Well, no. Leagues don’t work that way. Who would want to join a league where your fate is to be eaten by your own? Sign me up! I don’t have enough enemies or people who want to bite my balls off! League of Ordinary Ballbiters—where have you been all my life?
It’s a pretty simple rule to require affirmative argument. It should be our gentleman’s agreement. Add a fresh argument or fact with every post, or don’t post until you can. Move the discussion forward or stay out of the way.
And in between the noise, Mr. Koz did make an actual argument here:
For PPACA, it’s been pretty clear for at least a couple of years that libs have zero intention of forgoing or postponing their desire to have universal coverage in the American health care system no matter what the American people think or believe. That is simply corrupt advocacy and that’s what was exposed this week, much more than whatever we can reasonably blame SG Verrilli for.
And give him some props here for using the preferred Democrat locution—“PPACA” instead of “ObamaCare.” He’s not a total brute, eh? He did try to speak the other fellow’s language.
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“This kind of blanket statement issued by you (usually once or more on every single comment thread in which you participate) leads me to believe that you do not, in fact, regard anything said by anyone upon which you hoist the liberal flag as worthy of any sort of interest, Koz.”
Whether I do or not is a contingent result of whatever it is the libs happen to argue, Pat. It’s not my fault if the libs don’t make worthy arguments. Take a look at the very comment you are responding to. It’s been pretty clear for at least a couple of years that the libs have no intention of forgoing their desire to have universal coverage in the American health care system no matter what the American people think or believe. Whenever they do that (and I think you’d agree that it’s the default intent of politically active libs in America), that’s corrupt advocacy. End of.
Note that corrupt advocacy is something different than bad policy (though I do believe PPACA is bad policy as well). And one of the typical consequences of this is that libs put themselves in a place of empty bewilderment when as a consequence of some course of events that’s not too difficult to understand.
“You accusing anyone else of cultural insularity quite frankly blows my mind to smithereens.”
I don’t know why it should be so difficult. We can see it play out right here in the health care debate. See
volokh.com/2012/03/30/why-did-legal-elites-underestimate-the-case-against-the-mandate/
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Also,
http://volokh.com/2012/03/31/legal-elites-and-strategic-behavior/
You can manipulate a narrative by enforcing the cultural boundaries of resources that you control, but you can’t force the rest of the world to accept your boundaries as its own.Report
Romney’s Todd Fuller.Report
I really don’t think Romney needs nor should want a heavy foreign policy person as his running mate, despite his lack of experience. For starters, foreign policy isn’t going to be all that big. Plus, the one foreign policy area Obama is actually unpopular on – Afghanistan – the Republicans don’t have the inclination to go after him on it in a way that would be actually be popular – i.e. get the fish out. And last, just about every foreign policy ‘expert’ (scare quotes deliberate) in the Republican party is either sabotaged by the Iraq debacle, or has worked/is working for Obama. (e.g. Huntsman, Gates)
I mean, putting either Condi Rice or John Bolton in there would be a gift to the Obama campaign.Report
Well…it might help Romney if he had someone who could keep him from saying stupid shit, like his recent Russia debacle.Report
Wow. I hadn’t heard about the Russia thing. I’m used to stuff Romney says being taken out of context (“Corporations are people”), but that was indeed legitimately stupid.Report
That”s my point though. Just about everyone currently in good standing in the Republican Party (and certainly the internet and talk radio crowd) doesn’t have a problem with what Romney said.
(alternatively, he’s not listening to the advice he’s already getting)Report
Romney needs purple states, so he will use the VP pick to help him there.
The solid red states are gimmes, as the base would vote for tree stump as long as there’s an R next to its name if the alternative is Obama. The inverse is true for the solid blue states by the way. Roughly, Romney needs to win 2 out of 3 from Virginia, Florida and Ohio. Kasich, Rubio and McDonnell will be the leading contenders.Report
My impression has been that FL favors the GOP and that VA favors the dems so Ohio is the big enchilada.Report
I think the unpopular Gov. Rick Scott puts Florida in play, but I agree it will come down to Ohio. Don’t know that Kasich will help that much there, though.Report
Virginia has trouble getting Dems out to vote.Report
I don’t see Rubio hooking himself to a Veep slot this time around. If Mitt looked better, maybe, so that he could be a two-term veep running for Pres in 8 years.
This is sort of Mitt’s problem. Most of the guys who I’d pick as credible veeps are probably disinclined to run.Report
I agree Rubio would rather not, but I can see him being convinced. The Tea Party folks are pining for him BAD and that’ll be attractive.Report