Liveblogging the World Cup Draw
So it looks like the US’ recent history of bad fortune in the World Cup draw is going to continue, as they draw England as the seeded team in their group, while hated rival Mexico hits the jackpot by drawing host South Africa’s group. I spit in Sepp Blatter’s general direction.
UPDATE 1: Jeff Carlisle at ESPN notes that the England game will be the US’ first of the tournament. Will they be capable of repeating their upset of Portugal in their first game of the 2002 Cup?
UPDATE 2: A good break for both the US and England as the Africa/CONMEBOL pot gives their group Algeria, which is one of the less dangerous teams in that pot. Perhaps the US and England will each be able to avoid a Group of Death for the first time in awhile.
UPDATE 3: And the last team in the England/US group is Slovenia. And the US and England hit the equivalent of a runner/runner straight draw, avoiding teams like France, Portugal, Serbia, and Slovakia. The winner of the US-England match should win the group with ease, and the loser will have an excellent opportunity to rebound for second place.
UPDATE 4: As expected, South Africa will have a difficult time avoiding being the first host country to fail to advance to the second round. But the group they drew was probably one of the worst they could have, making the task not only difficult, but likely almost impossible, as they draw one of the best teams in the CONCACAF/AFC pot, a tough CONMEBOL team in Uruguay, and probably the most dangerous unseeded team in the tournament in France.
FINAL UPDATE: Those who like to believe in both karma and Western exceptionalism have to be happy with this draw. England and the US get to play what should be a fun-to-watch game, with both having relatively clear paths to the second round. North Korea, after taking the extraordinary step of revaluing their currency overnight, wind up in a group with three heavyweights in Brazil, Portugal, and the Ivory Coast; NoKo will be lucky to have a goal differential in the single digits in that group. On top of that, the games between Brazil, Portugal, and the Ivory Coast should be exceedingly entertaining.
There seems to be am early consensus emerging that for once there is no clear-cut Group of Death in which all four teams have a strong chance of emerging as the victors. If I had to make a call, I’d probably go with Group D, Group E, or Group H. Group D has perennial powerhouse Germany, plus Australia, Serbia, and Ghana, each of which could be dangerous. Group E may be a bit tougher, with the Netherlands, Denmark, Cameroon, and Japan. Denmark is coming off a particularly strong qualifying campaign in which they lost only one game, the Dutch are, well, the Dutch, Cameroon has a history of surprising people at the World Cup, and Japan is an emerging regional power. However, Group H apparently has the best average ranking according to both FIFA’s official rankings and Nate Silver’s rankings for ESPN, with early tournament favorite Spain, well-regarded Chile, solid but unspectacular Switzerland, and fiery Honduras. Still – none of these are the sort of Groups of Death that we’re used to seeing in the World Cup, and the seeded team in each case should have a clear route to the second round. The only one that may have even a little difficulty would, I think, be the Netherlands.
I’d say that Italy probably has the easiest path to winning its group of any seeded team, drawing one of the weaker CONMEBOL teams in Paraguay, a team in New Zealand that was only able to qualify due to Australia’s move out of Oceania, and good-but-not-great Slovakia.
The winner of the US-England match should win the group with ease
No argument that the US got a great draw, but there are only a couple weak teams in the tournament (New Zealand, North Korea, maybe South Africa), and while someone will get an easy game at some point, I don’t think you can really predict who and when (outside of those exceptions). Slovenia and Algeria are teams we can beat on any given day (unlike, say, England, who we’ll probably only beat if we’re having a great day and they’re off), but neither of them exactly snuck into the Cup.Report
You’re right of course. Liveblogging tends to lend itself to overstatements. Still, it’s a group where the US can get through without having to pull off any upsets. It’s probably the first time in memory where they are clearly favored to make it through. Then again, we can’t disregard the loss of Charlie Davies and, quite possibly, Oguchi Onyewu.Report
It’s probably the first time in memory where they are clearly favored to make it through.
Agreed. And that’s the thing that I (or at least the pessimistic part of me) am worried about…Report
Excited about USA-England, though. Expect to see lots of “1950” signs.Report
Nice work, Thompson.Report
why did i think that host countries get a free ride into the 2nd round? i thought that’s what the U.S. enjoyed when we hosted…Report
Good analysis. Mexico’s draw got real tough real quick, but most people seemed to not notice and I’m still seeing a lot of ‘Mexico gets cake draw!’ analysis. I think they’re under 50/50 to make it out of the group. There really isn’t a Group of Death and I find it unfortunate that a lot of soccer media seems obsessed with identifying one whether it’s there or not.Report
Thanks, sidereal! I think you’re right about Mexico, too. Their draw was practically the inverse of the US’ – they started off with the best possible draw in getting South Africa, where the US started off with one of the worst possible draws in England. But then their 2nd and 3rd draws wound up being just about the worst possible, where the US’ 2nd and 3rd draws were close to the best possible (though not quite the best).
Despite South Africa’s awful ranking, that homefield advantage is going to be huge for them, so they’re not going to be complete pushovers. One thing that should be interesting with that group is whether they wind up playing their games at altitude, as apparently several of the venues are. That would work to both Mexico and S.A.’s advantage, and could level the playing field a bit.Report
Now that I’ve thought about it, I’m pretty sure that Group F is the real Group of Death — but it’ll be the viewers, not the teams who suffer. Seriously, which of those games would you want to watch? Italy-New Zealand? That’s got all the drama of New Zealand-Samoa. Paraguay-Slovakia? Italy-Slovakia? Awful, awful stuff. What’s more, a member of the 2009 New York Red Bulls — one of the worst teams fielded by the worst team in MLS history — will start games in that group, which is horrendous beyond description.Report
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