The Case For Detroit Pizza
In America, the debate over pizza is often a regional one, boiling down to a three-word question: “New York or Chicago?” In the tradition of those who answer “Beatles or Stones?” with “The Who” and those who answer “Kirk or Picard” with “Sisko”, I have my own, third-way seeking answer to the question:
The best pizza is Detroit-style. The worst is St. Louis-style. All other styles lie in-between those where ranking doesn’t matter.
Now, full disclosure: I’m a lifelong Michigander and I’ve never been to St. Louis, for pizza or for any other reason. I’m basing my disdain for St. Louis-style on written descriptions of it, and on the fact that those descriptions seem to describe a pizza I had at a bowling alley one time that remains, by far, the worst pizza I’ve ever had. Granted, bowling alleys generally don’t do food of any type really well, and so my hatred of the St. Louis style might be unfounded.
My love of Detroit-style is pretty solidly founded, though, as I have had it, in Detroit and elsewhere, many times. When I say that it is my favorite pizza style, I do not say that my favorite pizza is Detroit-style; it isn’t. My favorite pizza is a Chicago Deep Dish sort of thing sold in a small town west of Lansing. But I’ve seen CDD pizza done poorly. I can’t say the same of Detroit style.
The history of Detroit-style pizza is an odd one. Michigan is a great food state, due in no small part to the various people who have settled here over time. The Cornish came bearing pasties, the Dutch bearing fudge, the Poles bearing pączki, the Greeks bearing chili (that’s a long story, involving Ohio. I won’t get into it here.) But Italians did not come bearing pizza, at least not in the way they did in New York City, Chicago, and, indeed, St. Louis. Rather than developing out of the traditions of an immigrant community, Detroit-style has a sole recognized inventor. Gus Guerra adapted the Sicilian-style pizza made by his mother-in-law to sell in his bar, Buddy’s Rendezvous, to, among others, returning WWII vets who might have encountered the dish during their deployment.
What is served, to this day, in Guerra’s establishment and throughout Michigan isn’t really Sicilian pizza anymore. It’s similar, being a deep-dish, rectangular thing. The dough, for how thick it is, is very light. But the crust has been changed a bit in two ways. First, the pan (traditionally the same sort of blue steel pan used to hold small parts in Detroit’s auto plants) is buttered heavily, resulting in the bottom of the crust being very crispy, almost as if it had been fried rather than baked. Second, the crust’s outer edge is also made hard and crunchy by the cheese being spread to the edges and charring against the pan. The crust, as a structural foundation for the dish, is thus sturdy without being stodgy. It can hold a great deal of toppings, while not becoming mainly like a loaf of bread if topped lightly.
The toppings can vary. Cheese is mozzarella or a blend of that and “brick cheese”, the unromantic name given to a variety of Wisconsin white cheddar. Brick cheese isn’t very sharp or strong cheese, but it’s a bit more flavorful than just mozzarella. I’ve heard that to be completely correct, Detroit-style will have the sauce on top of the cheese, so as not to soak into the crust. But I’ve seen it done with the sauce under the cheese enough times to not really consider it a hard-and-fast style rule.
You don’t need to take my word that Detroit pizza needs more esteem. YouTube personalities Rhett MacLaughlin and Lincoln Neal, who make a living, in part, by ranking food, ranked Detroit-style in second place in a contest between various pizza styles, behind New York City-style. That final-round loss only came after the two learned that Little Caesars was based in Detroit. I have two responses to this: Firstly, Sbarro is based in New York City, and one wouldn’t judge NYC pies based on that. And secondly, even when it’s made by Little Caesar’s, Detroit pizza (sold nationwide there as Deep, Deep Dish) is still good. It’s not great, it’s clearly not made to be great, but it’s still good.
That’s why Detroit-style pizza is best. It’s nearly impossible to mess up, and it’s very good if done well. It can be made without a dedicated oven, which means most people can make it at home. (As an aside, it’s odd to me that, given the amount of pizza Americans consume, pizza ovens aren’t a common part of American kitchens.) If I were to advise someone looking to open a pizza place, I would tell them to emulate the Detroit style. Unless you’re opening in the Detroit metro area, you’re unlikely to have much competition. And that’s too bad, because there really should be Detroit-style pizza in other places. It’s the best style.
Unless you’re opening in the Detroit metro area, you’re unlikely to have much competition. And that’s too bad, because there really should be Detroit-style pizza in other places. It’s the best style.
Mostly Colorado-based Blackjack Pizza includes a Detroit-style pizza on the menu at most of their locations along the Front Range urban corridor. It’s our change-of-pace choice in pizza. Our regular is something lighter these days; getting old means having to sacrifice some things.Report
Glad to hear it’s available elsewhere. Now if only we could get Colorado pizza here in the Mitten. I’ve heard good things.Report
“…here in the Mitten.”
Just last night, my wife, who was born in Dearborn Heights, referred to the state as the hand. And that she was from the palm. Being a California kid, I had never heard of this before.Report
My attitude is that if an out-of-state visitor asks*, I’ll be happy to take them to Beau Jo’s, the originators of the “mountain pie.” It’s okay once. It’s telling that almost no other local place does it.
* I’ll take them to Casa Bonita once also, just for the tourist-value of having mediocre Mexican food and indoor cliff diving, in a suburban strip mall.Report
Holy crap I forgot entirely about Beau Jo’s…but who can forget Casa BonitaReport
For them of you what are *NOT* ‘ganders, the next time you wander through your Frozen Pizza Aisle, you should check and see if Outsiders Pizza Detroit Style Three Cheese Frozen Pizza is somewhere in there.
If it is, consider picking one up.
I get one of these and a packet of pepperoni from the lunchmeat aisle and a bag of shredded Italian Blend from the cheese aisle and I doctor it up and cook it for about 2 minutes longer than recommended.
You’ll be surprised that you managed to make a frozen pizza this good.Report
Okay, so, I might have misunderstood what this symposium was, based on how Avi Woolf was recruiting for it on Twitter. I thought it was just about our favorite types of pizza, and submitted this. Then I spent the last week reading some very personal stories about pizza, and that’s not what this is, obviously.
Still, I stand by what I wrote, and hope I can get some more exposure for Detroit pizza.Report
I think the overarching idea was “talk about pizza”. I think the idea was that everybody has a good essay about pizza in them, somewhere.
And, indeed, we all do. It’s just that many of us are of the age where when we sit down to write about pizza, we do so with the theme of “I ate pizza with my family when I was young and happiness was so much simpler, then.” Some might have other stories come to mind. “I have made pizza” or “I have delivered pizza” are big ones tied to adolescence/young adulthood rather than childhood.
The problem with writing about food at all is that food isn’t about food.
And an essay telling us to try a new kind of food is also good. Perhaps it will result, someday, in an essay about someone whose parents read a blog and then made them eat Detroit pizza.
And happiness was so much simpler, then.
Back before The Cyborg War.Report
You’re doing it right. I can definitely back Detroit Pizza (as #2)… I’ve had some really good Detroit style over the years… simultaneously moist and crisp and lots of flavor – the opposite of the spongey/rubbery “deep dish” from chains.Report
It was a great piece, and exactly what we wanted for the symposium. Both have a place, and glad you participated and joined us.Report
No, this is cool! I lived in Ann Arbor for a few years and was still totally unaware of Detroit-style pizza. So I learned something from your piece.Report