24 thoughts on “The Tea Party-Social Conservative Split

  1. Not to downplay the amount of animosity that exists between libertarians and social conservatives in general, but the vast majority of the evangelicals I know (Colorado Springs, bay-bay!) have less than no problem with attacking Obama. Maybe they won’t attack Michelle and maybe they won’t attack his kids… but being turned off by the Joker sign?

    That does not read accurately to me.

    Maybe it’s an Atlanta vs. Colorado Springs thing, of course.Report

  2. None of this reads accurately to me. It implies a split between libertarians and social conservatives, then frames libertarians as name-calling, joker sign carrying meanies. I think this is just another excuse to divide and conquer — very poor analysis of the reality of opposition to progressivism. I wrote awhile back about the coming attack on libertarianism — everyone wants to maintain the old battle between social conservatives and liberals, but that’s all changing.Report

    1. “coming attack on libertarianism”

      Has it ever stopped? We’ve been boogeymen for the right *AND* left for as long as I can remember. Everything the Republicans hate about the Democrats and everything the Democrats hate about the Republicans all rolled up into one.Report

  3. JB, I”m a pleasant paleo and I always kinda liked libertarians.
    This is bs and the one guy’s opinion and that’s about all!
    Re: the differences between Bubba and BO it appears they’re subtle. It doesn’t look like BO runs around on Michelle but his heart overflows with the foul intent of commie bastards everywhere, just as Bubba’s did.For these n’er-do-wells its all about controlling the lives of other human beings and that, my palsies, makes these people wackos, nut balls, and deformed/derailed ideologists! Just because the Republicans are thieves, corrupt, and stoopid is no reason to vote democrat!Report

    1. Oh, Bob. I know that the Paleos don’t mind Libertarians that much. Us fringy guys need to stick together, after all.

      It’s the folks with clout, or the folks who identify with the folks with clout, and the folks who imagine that they will someday have clout… they’re the ones who hate Libertarians.Report

        1. It’s what they’re the fringes of.

          Paleos tend to be the fringy cousins of the social conservatives. Libertarians tend to be the fringy cousins of the fiscal conservatives.Report

            1. Eh. At the end of the day, we’re all individuals. I do find it useful to categorize people by the self-identifiers of the writers that make them nod to themselves most often, however.Report

              1. “Useful” probably wasn’t the best term I could have used.

                I probably should have said “time-saving”… because, again, at the end of the day, we’re all individuals and I haven’t yet found a Republican who was a stereotypical one, nor a democrat who was a stereotypical one. Ironically, I’ve probably found more stereotypical fringy types than stereotypical mainstream ones…Report

        1. Everybody is an individual, yes.

          We live in a world of almost 7 billion parties… though I will admit that some coalitions are stronger than others…Report

  4. Yes, Jaybird, I also wrote it’s nothing new, but the intensity and viciousness might increase as the stakes increase. I expect all anti-statism to be framed as violent, libertarian, anti-government radicalism.Report

    1. What drives me crazy is that we’re, like, less than 1% of the population. Less than 1%! John Anderson was the last guy to break 1% in a national election! Ever since then, the Libertarian percentage had to be rounded *UP* to 1!

      And we’re still painted as people who are ruining/want to ruin the damn country.

      Drives me batty.Report

      1. Hell, the Jews are about .2% of the world’s population, but people still claim we run the whole thing. (The ones we haven’t yet managed to silence or buy off, that is.)Report

  5. Like we all live in Montana cabins with a stockpile of cool weapons, you know. I don’t like the cold weather, so that counts me out. I keep my arsenal at my beach hut. The first black helicopter I see is in real trouble.Report

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