The Lite Beer of American Satire
Libby Watson finds American satire lacking:
That’s part of why British political discourse makes American politics look like tea at the cricket club. When Congressman Joe Wilson yelled, “you lie!” at President Obama, it was a national incident, but raucous shouting at the Prime Minister during Prime Minister’s Questions has been a weekly institution since the 19th Century. We throw eggs at our politicians; we nick their bikes; we certainly don’t stand when they enter the room.
This jeering hatred of politicians is integral to The Thick of It. Malcolm calls minister Nicola Murray a “psycho-fanny,” and violent threats that he’ll “sell off [her] fucking flayed skin” are standard. And these politicians are worthy of hatred. Nicola is a total “omnishambles;” her predecessor Hugh uses the story of his adviser Glen’s special-needs son to lie to Parliament. The advisers are as terrible. Malcolm is the “Malchiavellian” scumbag behind it all, but every single one is slimy, backstabbing, and horrible. Ollie is a “man worm,” who helps depose both Nicola and Malcolm. Others trade nicknames for a mentally ill man: “The fucker’s a nutbag.”
It’s certainly true that our style of politics – as acrimonious as it often is, can be compared as “gentle” compared to British politics. It also makes sense to me that The West Wing is a truly American type of program.
Having seen both, I also mostly with her comparisons of the American and British versions of House of Cards, though that’s more complicated than it initially appears. Our Underwood was, I’d argue, actually considerably more villainous than their Urquhart. The British version, though, had a very American over-the-top feel while British satire tends to be more… patient.
I think Watson really nails it here, though:
It’s not only hatred, though—Brits don’t have the forgiving impulse that America has for its politicians. The fall-and-redemption story is familiar in American politics. Last year, we got a Congressman Mark Sanford as proof. George W. Bush’s paintings of dogs hang on the national refrigerator, with him trotting them out in a fluffy Today Show interview with his daughter.
And I think the the politics discussed throughout is symptomatic of our interest in the redemption narrative rather than being about politics in particular.
To take it out of our statehouses and DC, I consider The Office to be indicative of this. On first blanch, their David Brent was two-parts creepy and one part annoying. Our Michael Scott was two-parts annoying and one-part creepy. As time progressed, the difference became more increasingly important. Early on in the series I wrote the following about Scott:
The most telling scene with Michael Scott was when he was showing a video of his younger self on a kiddie show of some sort. He is asked what he wants most from life and he says it’s to get married and have 100 kids so that none of them could decline to being his friend. One of the saddest scenes on television pretty much ever.
Frankenstein’s Monster said something along the lines of “I am a monster because I am in pain.” Whenever I run across someone either in real life or in entertainment that has an emptiness in their heart, it makes me very wary.
Michael Scott’s younger years are never spelled out and though he likes to talk about himself he doesn’t really do so in honest or accurate terms, so we’re left to speculate. Nonetheless, it seems relatively apparent to me that Michael hasn’t just been hurt by what social rejection almost certainly took place in his past, but rather that he’s been scarred by it. I see within him a certain darkness in his soul where the part of him that is loved and accepted should reside. That’s not to say that he is completely unloved and unaccepted as his mother seems to love him (if not respect him) and Dwight functionally (if not earnestly) respects him, but it’s clearly not enough.
The dangerous Scott painted in this portrait is beyond redemption. And yet, however, he was redeemed. It’s not just that Scott had over seven seasons to find his redemption while Brent had only two. Brent could have had ten and it wouldn’t have mattered. Not only because of the two-part-one-part difference, but because Scott’s happiness and Brent’s being forced out were both natural extensions of how each side likes our stories told.
Whether about politics or a guy running an office.
Intellectually and artistically, I have a preference for the British model. Our House of Cards and The Office are more entertaining, but theirs are stories better told. But I have the heart of an American, I suppose. The British version of the Office was simply hard for me to watch. House of Cards was easier, but I am still disinclined to ever go back and watch it. I seem to appreciate their approach from a mild distance.
I’d say that the Commonwealth countries have a healthier scorn for their politicians in general. Politicians are viewed as the most likely criminal and most assuredly scheming and grasping civil servants that they are. Being a monarchist I like to claim that it’s because the Crown has a legal monopoly on formal nationalist reverence which leaves the politicians free to do the dirty work of governance and at least partially deprives them of the ability to drape themselves in flags.
And yes, House of Cards is very different. Underwood is virtually a superhero (supervillain) in the American version.Report
My friend calls the American version “competency porn”Report
That is remarkably apt.Report
I think it’s worth noting that the composition of the parliamentary model also means that Opposition Parties in Parliament will never, ever work together. That’s why papers are so much more nastily partisan, and why there’s so much more heckling: The opposition party has no realistic way of contesting the Government other than by mocking it.Report
I have a friend who once worked in the same part of Slough where the British version of the office was filmed. She flat out refused to watch after the first episode because she said it was too close to reality.Report
Same deal with me and the American “The Office”. It’s like, this is my life, it’s what I spend eight hours a day trying to mitigate, how am I supposed to laugh at it?
The British “The Office” just left me flat because nobody in an American office would even be allowed to act like that, much less actually do it.Report
Interesting. I had been thinking that I couldn’t watch the American House of Cards after watching the British one because the British one was just *better* (better written, better acted, etc), but now I’m thinking it might just be my cultural biases…. Canadians are neither British nor American, of course, but I think (at least in my part of the country), we’re more like the British than like anyone else. Maybe NZ? Hm.Report
Maybe the assumption in British society is that you might hate someone, and they might be worth the hating, but because of their position in society there’s nothing you can do about them, and because of their position in society they don’t care what you think about them.
And the assumption in American society is that everyone is basically the same, with differences due to different lives, and so if you really let loose the hate on someone then eventually you’ll find some way that they’re likeable, or even like you, and now you’re hating someone who doesn’t really deserve it. But at the same time, anyone in American society can be dragged down by anyone else, so you always have to care about whether or not people hate you.Report
Many of our creative sorts probably had no more love for Reagan than their British counterparts had for Thatcher. The difference is that Reagan was never subjected to very harsh humor on television the way Thatcher was. British creative sorts had no problem portraying their hatred for Thatcher even though she won elections by landslides.
My theory is that British satire can be harsher because they are protected by the relatively non-commercial nature of the BBC. Our media is basically run as a for profit enterprise and PBS doesn’t produce original dramas and comedies of its own that aren’t aimed at children. Our media corporations are going to be less willing to subject a politican popular with a decent amount of the population than their British counterparts with a few exceptions like Palin.Report
Jeb Bush was popular when arrested development was running, wasn’t he?Report
@leeesq
I think there’s something to this because I don’t think it’s true that Americans are bad at satire. The Onion can be very sharp and the most vicious piece of satire I’ve ever come across was Tom Lehrer’s Werner von Braun. What I think is true is that US broadcast TV is bad at satire. I suspect the reason for this is probably the reason broadcast TV is blander than what you can find on premium cable channels (where the US does produce some good satire) – it has to do with how different funding models react to the intensity of viewer preferences.
On an advertising-funded channel all the broadcaster cares about is ratings numbers because the more people whoa re watching the more money they make. The commercial ideal for a broadcast TV show is to be mildly appealing to as many people as possible. By contrast, subscription TV channels have a reason to care how much people like their content, not just how many people like it, since the more intensely people like your content the more they will be prepared to pay for it. Content that is strongly liked by a relatively small group can be a viable business model for a subscription TV channel. Since blandness is practically necessary for something to have wide appeal, it’s no surprise that advertiser-funded channels have fairly bland content.Report
Premium cable isn’t immune from commercial pressures either. Many of shows characterized as weak like Veep appear on premium cable. People of all stripes watch cable and they can’t get to hard on particular side.Report
I think Nob, North, and Jim have some very interesting ideas about why British satire can be biting in a way that American satire is not. There social and political systems including the fact that they have a monarch and royal family that receives the public reverence and respect make sense. I also once read an essay about the same subject that brought up the point that in the UK like most other countries, the political, economic, and cultural capital is the same city. In the United States our cultural capitals are Los Angeles and New York while our political capital is DC. We also have many more centers of elite education than the UK. In the UK, the creative people and politicians generally spent many of their formative years together at Oxbridge and London and this sort of familiarity brings contempt. Our creative people and politicians are less close and more likely to glamorize each other because of lack of familiarity.Report
I think Arrested Development does a better job of satirizing american politicians…
I think you might be doing American Comedy a bit of a disservice by only looking at
direct analogues.Report
When I ever I speak or read ex-pats who have had a prolonged exposure to Americans, they are always astonished (usually in a good way) about how nice and sincere and sarcasm free Americans are. I’ve been told by many non-Americans that they see the NYC-Metro area as being distinctly non-American for a variety of reasons including New an ability to use sarcasm at all. We are largely seen as a plain-dealing people.
Many Americans like to say they are great at sarcasm and snark but I suspect we pale in comparison to the Brits.
Debate over sarcasm is relative. New Yorkers complain that San Franciscans don’t get sarcasm and people from San Francisco complaint that people from Portland and Seattle don’t get sarcasm.Report
People from Portland don’t get Mr. T, which makes me really sad.
In not entirely unrelated news (and further proof that Portland is cooler than us):
“This is Not a Japanese Restaurant”
http://www.oregonlive.com/dining/index.ssf/2013/03/restaurant_review_tanuki_1.htmlReport
actual sign:
http://www.passiveaggressivenotes.com/2014/04/29/not-japanese/Report
Sully posted a long quote from a British writer that immigrated to the United States in the early 1960s a couple of months ago. One of the first things the writer noticed was that a little boy gave him a friendly greeting while he was out for a walk. The writer noted that this would never happen in the UK.Report
I’m still startled by random people wishing me good morning in California and I’ve lived here for 6 years!Report
Are these just british expats? Because I’m pretty sure Americans rub a lot of folks raw… (in so many different ways…)Report
Aha! They aren’t the real Americans 🙂Report
I also wonder if the long-length of our television series compared to the short length of British television series has a lot to do with the less biting nature of it. If your series are can to only last for a handful of seasons and episodes than you can afford to have much darker and less sympathetic characters because the audience doesn’t have to live with them for so long. When British series are long like Doctor Who than the characters tend to be much more likeable and sympathetic. American series aim for a long run rather than a short run so they want the audience to like their characters.Report
I’d actually intended to mention this, @leeesq but didn’t get around to it with anything more than a passing mention. I’d imagine that it’s much, much more difficult to keep an audience invested in unlikeable characters over 22 episodes than 6, and that there would be a concern over several seasons than if you know it’s likely to be between 1 and 4.
Even if we’d wanted to make Underwood much more like Urquhart, you’d likely want a long-term opponent trying to take them down. British or American, I have difficulty seeing interest sustained if they didn’t. And the longer it goes, the more that evolution becomes necessary to avoid stagnation. In the case of Michael and Dwight, that evolution was almost inevitably some degree of redemption.Report
A series that consists only of dark and unsympathetic characters that extends over dozens of episodes would be unwatchable for most people except the most jaded and cynical. People would have nothing to emotionally invest in so would have no reason to continue watching. A long-running series of horrible people doing bad things to each other would also get boring becaus it would be the same thing over and over again. Character development is necessarily as you point out and if a character starts out unsympathetic than most development is goign to run in a positive direction.Report