Salvaging Grammar Instruction
By Kyle Cupp
I begin with a confession: reading Freddie deBoer’s post on the poor outcomes of teaching grammar initially left me feeling despondent and ready to join the narrator of Melville’s Moby-Dick in deliberately stepping into the streets and methodically knocking people’s hats off. I’d long heard rumors of the failure of grammar instruction, but like an isolated and perfectly comfortable hobbit of the Shire, I little heeded these whispers of far away troubles. That the forthright Freddie was sounding the arm bells drew my attention. I might as well as seen a Nazgûl on the road to Bag End. My fearful thoughts echoed the old Gaffer: “Shit. Maybe there’s something to this.”
Freddie begins with a warning that his post will probably be boring to many. Not to me. I pored over it with an excitement equal to what I’d feel hearing news that Joss Whedon was creating a new television show. How big of a language arts nerd am I? If I ever come across the words “Eliza Dushku” and “dangling participle” in the same sentence, I’ll be able to die happy.
A little personal history: I was once an evil English teacher. After grad school I got a job at a private college preparatory school teaching grammar, literature, and composition to middle school and high school students. Good times. Despite having studied English as an undergraduate, I had at that time not yet diagrammed a sentence. So when I cracked open the Warriner’s textbook to prepare my year’s lesson plans, I was introduced to the art of diagramming and had to teach myself this obscure technique of mapping the structure of a sentence. And what fun it was! The idea of diagramming made perfect sense to me, and by the start of school my sappy infatuation with the practice had blossomed into true love.
You will not be surprised to hear that I required my students to diagram a lot of sentences. I liked to throw in subtly difficult ones such as “Now is the winter of our discontent made glorious summer by this sun of York.” I wanted my students to understand the concepts of grammar and to appreciate that grammar is the structure by which we understand reality. We covered definitions, of course, but I really stressed identification and application. My students needed to do more than repeat definitions. I expected them to identify the parts of speech in a sentence and to compose sentences that included particular grammatical parts and structures. When one day, to my surprise and with no prompting, my eighth grade class rose from their desks, stood at attention, saluted me and said, “All hail Darth Linguist,” I knew I’d done good.
Freddie tells of studies apparently showing that my dearly beloved grammar instruction doesn’t achieve the outcomes it’s supposed to achieve; it doesn’t result in better reading and writing habits or even a better grasp of grammar. While my first inclination upon reading about this was to complain to myself that these studies never examined my outstanding classroom-renowned teaching methods—and, for the record, they didn’t—a little coffee-aided reflection has lead me see that Freddie may be right, and most likely right about the reason. He says his experience “is that the people who learn descriptive and prescriptive grammar are those who already have facility in functional grammar.”
Diagramming made sense to me because I already had a practical frame of reference from which to understand it. I knew how to speak and write with proper grammar. I wasn’t approaching diagramming as a student might hesitantly take a first step toward conceptualizing the Id, elasticity of demand, or imaginary numbers. Diagramming helped me visualize all the possible structural variations of a sentence. I grew more conscious of these structures and how best to employ them in discourse, but I doubt diagramming would have improved my language skills if I didn’t already get grammar at a practical level and know by heart the rules of the road. It may instead have confused and frustrated me.
Did diagramming sentence help my students? I hope it did. A lot of them were really good at it; some could diagram any sentence I threw at them. Nevertheless, I can’t prove that diagramming or my other methods of teaching grammar made them better readers or writers. Those who quickly figured out prescriptive grammar may have succeeded for the same reason I latched on to diagramming: they already had the necessary foundation to build upon.
Grammar nerd that I am, I cannot avoid or dismiss the problem that Freddie has highlighted here. Like him, I see a grave need for pedagogical innovation. And yet I just can’t quit my devotion to traditional grammar instruction. If I returned to the classroom, I’d teach diagramming, the parts of speech, the difference between the gerund and participle. I’d cover clauses and phrases, subjects and predicates. I’d explain passionately why the predicate nominative should be in the nominative case.
If it’s true that teaching prescriptive grammar does not lead to better reading and writing outcomes, then why would I bother with it? Three main reasons. First, while the detailed study of grammar may not typically help students develop the fundamental functional grammar skills needed for reading and writing, it does in my experience help students already somewhat proficient at reading, writing, and functional grammar improve their proficiency with the language arts. Second, grammar is the structure in which people think and by which they understand reality. The study of grammar, especially diagramming, makes one conscious of this structure and how it frames thought and understanding. These are things worth knowing. Third, there’s grammar-related humor to be enjoyed!
It’s all meta, dude.
It’s all meta.Report
I like meta. It’s dizzying.Report
“The study of grammar, especially diagramming, makes one conscious of this structure and how it frames thought and understanding. These are things worth knowing.”
Most certainly. Perhaps introducing some Aristotle or other classical philosophy to address the basics of language, i.e. subjects and predicates, and how we string references and conceptions together might give a helpful bird’s eye view on the whole ordeal. It certainly would have helped me.
Then there’s the problem of writing the way one speaks. I don’t think I’m alone in how I say everything as I’m writing it (in my head), but perhaps I am. Eitherway, I’d be surprised if putting a greater emphasis on gramtical speech wouldn’t go a long way toward more gramatical writing.
Listen to a Presidential debate and it’s no wonder we have a grammar problem in this country.Report
I’d be surprised if putting a greater emphasis on gramtical speech wouldn’t go a long way toward more gramatical writing.
Would you take a more proactive or reactive approach to this? I correct my son’s spoken grammatical mishaps, but admittedly I don’t have him practice speaking grammatically correct constructions. Maybe I should.Report
grammar comes after vocabulary. were comes after wased.
I doubt people really need to be taught their own grammar. Ain’t that right?Report
The majority of other folks might (and probably do) learn differently than I do… but I’ll give my experience because I think it may illuminate as much as give me an opportunity to tell a story.
Everything I did in much of elementary, middle, and high school was done by rote. There may be an exception or two (Winesburg, Ohio) but, for the most part, I gave the answers to the questions based on the material. “What does Ishmael’s grabbing the floating coffin in the ocean symbolize?” “This symbolizes blah blah blah blah” and I got my B+ and I was outta there.
One day I was walking down the street and I understood what Ishmael was doing. I understood what Melville had painted.
The universe opened before me and I saw the pods swimming mating birthing dying in a gyre like I was looking at Doré’s White Rose but instead of angels they were whales.
This was more than 10 years after I had given that book back to my teacher at the end of the section.
The day before, had you asked me, I would have told you that I learned nothing.Report
The differences in which we learn present a challenge to education in general, but to grammar instruction in particular, because grammar is all about doing/thinking in a very specific way.
BTW, I’m glad I’m not the only one who suddenly thinks of Melville while walking down the street.Report
You don’t have to understand why. You just have to do.
Let enlightenment strike tomorrow. Today is about writing correctly the way our ancestors did without why.Report
Okay, Yoda.Report
Don’t be Andy Rooney.
If you’re going to teach grammer, have fun — but I think it’s more fun to learn multiple grammars at once. And don’t tell me that’s not for English class!
How can you expect someone to learn without something to compare it to? Grammar’s fun, in no small part because of how different it is from place to place.Report
That’s not for English class. English is English; it has nothing whatsoever to do with any other language.Report
ignorant git.Report
… seriously, do you really not think before you walk into a trap? It’s pathetic.Report
Sometimes, snares are beset by other snares, and those snares beset by even more.
In those circumstances, the best path is into the first snare… thus the hunter will most quickly reveal himself and, perhaps, walk into one of the meta-snares.Report
ah, but some snares break necks, or cost paws.
…besides, was there ever an animal that smart?Report
And no one should ever have fun in English class.Report
Figger we’d have more fun if we was taught a bit more about English, and a little less about Latin. But surely you’re familiar with the whole split infinitive argument?
[nb. yeah, i’m ragging on a completely different thing than before. I Like Tangents!]Report
Then you go and shoot a Congresswoman in the back of the head! BECAUSE OF GRAMMAR.Report
I had a shallow understanding of English grammar before I studied Latin. (Just as I thought FORTRAN was pretty cool before I learned Pascal)Report
It occurs to me that if I were to have written Freddie’s post, I’d very pointedly be accused of writing off the poor. Probably of racism too.
So I’m just going to say he’s 100% wrong and hope for the best.Report
As Shepherd Book says, I’m missing something.Report
Picture me writing that the public schools can’t help children learn grammar.
Picture me blaming the home environment.
There are things Freddie can scream on the rooftops that I can’t even mutter to myself.Report
The difference between you is that he cares.
Indeed, the highest compliment he gives when writing that he disagrees with someone is “I know that you care about X, but…”Report
Education isn’t about educating. It’s about signalling that you care about your kids.
If education were about educating, people would be more bothered by the fact that there are such low returns to varying educational strategies. They would also be appalled that spending lots and lots more doesn’t help to educate the kids proportionally more.Report
There are “the kids” and there are “our kids”.
Our kids are fine.Report
“If education were about educating, people would be more bothered by the fact that there are such low returns to varying educational strategies.”
But don’t forget that education is ultimately about parental involvement. So when the kid fails, it means the parents failed. No bad teachers; only parents who failed to properly inculcate correct grammar structures.Report
But, of course, I’m not doing that.
What’s more, your “100% wrong” is buttressed by nothing. Mine is buttressed by one of the most consistently and thoroughly confirmed results in pedagogical research. As I said– a vast preponderance of empirical research, undertaken across decades, by dozens of disparate researchers, in a variety of contexts, with a large swath of highly disparate and demographically dissimilar test groups, tested in a multitude of contexts and with many different empirical mechanisms, have found the same result.
If you have evidence to the contrary, cite it. If you have a problem with the research, describe it. If you have a disagreement with my parsing of the research, articulate it.
Cool? Cool.Report
But here’s the thing: I wanted to agree with you. I think you are almost certainly correct.
I just found myself afraid to, for the reasons I’ve already explained.Report
Heck, even Freddie isn’t immune to the Balloon Juice commentors calling him a racist or an “educational triage-ist”.Report
In Freddie’s defense, the lion’s share of that stems from Matoko_Chan. She is a category unto herself.Report
Or maybe that’s in Balloon Juice’s defense.
One of those.Report
Ah Matoko, how long has it been since someone called me a WEC?Report
Or is Matoko_Chan a dude?Report
Well, there is the “there are no chicks on the internet” theory which has yet to be positively refuted but Matoko regularly claimed female status and I see no reason to disagree.
Apart from the theory, of course.Report
TITS OR GTFO has disproven that meme. Unless you believe in the “It’s a Trap!” meme.Report
Ah Warriner’s textbook. Remember it well. Unfortunately years ago I gave my copy (well worn) to a Chinese friend to help him with his English. Don’t know if it helped or not but I miss that little red book (irony intended).
Read almost every one of Faulkner’s books in high school. For fun, I turned in a “paper” wherein I diagrammed ONE of Faulkner’s sentences (bonus points if you can guess which book). Took 4 sheets of paper taped together. Still grammatically correct although trying to write like him (beautiful long meandering sentences) got me yelled at by virtually everybody. You’ll note I try to avoid that hereabouts. 😉Report
writing long sentences is a art that takes both concise meaning and a flow like a stream. … this is not a good example (the flow like a stream doesn’t flow well).Report
Although I hardly ever write long sentences, sometimes, when I have a lot on my mind, like when I’m in the middle of a debate online and the other person has made several points I want to address, I’ll write long sentences so that I don’t break the flow of my thoughts, even though it might be best to break up the sentence into several shorter sentences seeing as how some people prefer to read shorter sentences and given the fact that nowadays many people don’t have the patience for complex sentences, but I guess either way is fine, if you ask me, which you weren’t, but I’m responding anyway, because not everyone has a short attention span, and long sentences, even though some don’t like them, are necessary for comprehensive responses and nuance, at least I think so, especially when qualifications are called for, so, yes, I do write long sentences, although I admit I could be mistaken and that shorter sentences might be more suitable.Report
Excellently done Mr. Farmer and at 167 words you’re exactly ten words longer than Faulkner’s intro sentence in the book heretofore alluded to above (this is clue #2)
“There was a wistaria vine blooming for the second time that summer on a wooden trellis before one window, into which sparrows came now and then in random gusts, making a dry vivid dusty sound before going away; and opposite Quentin, Miss Coldfield in the eternal black which she had worn for forty-three years now, whether for sister, father, or nothusband none knew, sitting so bolt upright in the straight hard chair that was so tall for her that her legs hung straight and rigid as if she had iron shinbones and ankles, clear of the floor with that air of impotent and static rage like chidren’s feet, and talking in that grim haggard amazed voice until at last listening would renege and hearing-sense self-confound and the long-dead object of her impotent yet indomitable frustration would appear, as though by outraged recapitulation evoked, quiet inattentive and harmless, out of the binding and dreamy and victorious dust.”Report
A bit of prose improvement compared to mine.
Have you read Pynchon? Now, he constructed some sentences. Gravity’s Rainbow is an acid trip of long sentences – if you can call them sentencesReport
Funny how memes work isn’t it? Jaybird mentions Melville, which with grammar makes me think of Faulkner and now you mention Pynchon, whose review in the NYT mentions – Melville and Faulkner. “Gravity’s Rainbow” is longer, darker and more difficult than his first two books; in fact it is the longest, most difficult and most ambitious novel to appear here since Nabokov’s “Ada” four years ago; its technical and verbal resources bring to mind Melville and Faulkner.
And now the punchline for those who didn’t Google it, Absalom, Absalom.Report
Kyle mentioned it first. He nudged something that had been dozing in my brain.
Maybe that’s how they work. Something wakes up enough to roll over and kicks whatever is next to it.
Maybe we can do something with Nabokov next.Report
The Bear? No, that would have taken 4 reams of paper.
Steven Brust’s Parrfi books are another example, but that’s intended to be amusingly verbose (the best bit being the page-long sentence in praise of brevity.)Report
A clue: Was longest sentence in English literature for a while. No fun if you just Google that, but we cheat ourselves at solitaire too. I only today learned the longest sentence bit, but it clearly struck me at the time I was reading it that this was one damn long sentence – yet still grammatically correct.Report
Reliance on semi-colons is cheating; no one uses those in real life.Report
I thought semicolons only came with attached parenthesis?Report
😉Report
I didn’t want to dignify that with a response.
But here is a joke you can tell over email:
What winks and (screws) like a tiger?
😉
Hell, tell it in person.Report
I cheated (Googled it.) The last time I ‘read” that was a book on tape not narrated by Victor Borge, so I don’t know where the punctuation was.Report
I wish we had Faulkner himself reading from his own books. Whoever does a book on tape of Faulkner had better have a fine laconic southern accent, or don’t bother. That’s jes me tho.Report
Sho.Report
I liked Warriners, but it had almost no review, so I had to supplement it with some homemade worksheets.Report
Both you and Freddie end up advocating “learn by rote” for grammar structure.
Which, on the one hand, yay! The sentences and essays that the students write match the expected form!
On the other hand, are they writing or are they just doing the academic equivalent of Mad Libs?Report
Nowadays they just download the stuff off the internet, change the name, and turn it in, anyway… right?Report
To an extent, but I’m also a fan of traditional grammar instruction once a basis sense of the structure has been learned.Report
My students learned not to do that with me. I learned their unique voices pretty quickly.Report
I would also say that learning Ancient Greek in college probably taught me more about Formal English Grammar than my entire high school career.
I remember a handful of Greek words in the front of my brain and can read it aloud (without understanding more than 10% of it) if I sit quietly… but I know for a fact that that improved my English mastery far more than any writing/English class that I took in my academic career.Report
Four years of high school Latin did the same, pretty much.
I don’t remember hardly any of it, but the roots are buried in there. It’s all meta, dude.Report
English grammar education would be notably improved if the language itself were to use more frequently the subjunctive mood.Report
If the passive voice could be avoided, great works could be created.Report
This could be one of the possibly most profound statements that I might have read in what might be a long time, if I would be able to say so myself.Report
Boo. The passive voice has its place.Report
I agree. I hated the “creative” writing classes when teachers would tell you some ways of writing are taboo.Report
yarly. an editor friend of mine wanted to write a “Rules and how to Break them” book, because most things can be done really really well.Report
But to do that well, wouldn’t you need the kinds of signposts that a language like German inserts? At some point, adding more function to articles is a bug, not a feature. Of course, my attitude towards German tended to follow Mark Twain’s pretty closely.Report
Kyle, I thoroughly enjoyed this post. I, as an English teacher like you, enjoy diagramming sentences. It’s like masturbation for us.
Freddie is indeed forthright. I disagree with or want to qualify almost everything he writes, yet I continue to lurk at his digs for unknown reasons.
Grammar may not help any one human understand his or her language, but it does, however, help humans understand *language*, if that makes sense.
As a corollary to that, I’ll offer my Latin SAT II scores. So, I scored a 580 on the Latin SAT II, which is not good, like the equivalent of a novice who’s good at bullshitting, despite having taken Latin in middle school and being able to read Virgil and Catullus more or less fluently at the time as part of coursework. This (maybe I rationalize to myself) is because who the fuck cares about chiasmus and litotes?
“Grammar is the structure in which people think and by which they understand reality” – as a Wittgensteinian, I disagree. Grammar is whatever general, perceptible patterns occur from regular practice in a particular language. I may not think in nouns and verbs, since communication is by definition whatever comes out. Maybe inside my head I think a “dog” is a shmogledihoff and “run” is a morushparf. It doesn’t matter if what comes out is consistent with conventional practice.
Ultimately, as a language teacher, I believe keeping things unmeta as possible is best (unless you’re teaching meta; i.e. philosophy, linguistics, etc.) because if (and there are) there are people who actually don’t understand words as nouns and verbs but understand them as shmogledihoffs and morushparfs, then these people won’t get totally creamed by sentence diagrammification.Report
I’m glad you enjoyed the post, Christopher. I do understand what you mean by saying that diagramming helps one understand language. My wife did most of her diagramming when studying Latin.
My definition of grammar isn’t so much a definition as an observation of how grammar, as a pattern already at play, frames thought and understanding. This framing will differ from person to person, even within the same language, due to the degree to which thought and understanding are “grammatical.”Report
*snort* yeah. a friend of mine thinks in pictures. grammar completely nonexistent (puns, otoh, still there)Report
I learned to diagram sentences in grade school, in 6th or 7th grade. (Note: I went to a Catholic grade school, offering grades 1-8). Since then I have never encountered this technique nor have I ever heard of anyone else learning it. I came to believe that diagramming was technique unique to nuns.Report