What’s the big idea?
a piece just brimming over with nostalgia in the New York Times. Here’s his takeaway:
Neal Gabler hasIdeas just aren’t what they used to be. Once upon a time, they could ignite fires of debate, stimulate other thoughts, incite revolutions and fundamentally change the ways we look at and think about the world.
Funny how things look when we have the perspective of time to rosy our glasses. More often than not, a big idea or discovery isn’t fully understood to be truly big or impacting until…well, until the impact of the big idea has been thoroughly felt. I find the entire – deeply conservative – piece frankly baffling. For instance:
In the past, we collected information not simply to know things. That was only the beginning. We also collected information to convert it into something larger than facts and ultimately more useful — into ideas that made sense of the information. We sought not just to apprehend the world but to truly comprehend it, which is the primary function of ideas. Great ideas explain the world and one another to us.
Oh I see. Now, in the present, we collect information not to understand the world but to…what? To gossip about it? I’m not sure. Apparently it’s exhausting, though:
The collection itself is exhausting:
See I told you it was exhausting…
what each of our friends is doing at that particular moment and then the next moment and the next one; who Jennifer Aniston is dating right now; which video is going viral on YouTube this hour; what Princess Letizia or Kate Middleton is wearing that day. In effect, we are living within the nimbus of an informational Gresham’s law in which trivial information pushes out significant information, but it is also an ideational Gresham’s law in which information, trivial or not, pushes out ideas.
I’m sure Mr. Gabler exempts himself from these trivial pursuits, however. I doubt he checks to see which Youtube is viral this hour (do people do this? “Hey honey, can you go check to see which Youtube video went viral this hour? Thanks.”) Or, at least I suspect he exempts himself, given the clichéd nature of his list of information-gathering. Yes, all the modern ape cares about is Jennifer Aniston and what our friends are doing “at that particular moment and then the next moment” which is all anybody really uses social media for after all.
I think I understand what Gabler is doing here. He’s lamenting the death of elite circles of ideas and the decentralization of literary and art criticism, the fall of the columnist and the demise of the informational and analytical gatekeepers. He claims that what he’s worried about is the transference of ideas from the realm of the idea-makers to the free market: “No doubt there will be those who say that the big ideas have migrated to the marketplace, but there is a vast difference between profit-making inventions and intellectually challenging thoughts.” Yet, if anything, old market players have been incapable of keeping up with demand, and the price of ideas and the wages of idea-makers has dropped dramatically. Perhaps supply and demand have both risen dramatically…?
Here’s the thing. I think Will Wilkinson is basically right. Big idea-making has been decentralized. It’s not a factory model, it’s an open-source, bottom-up model. The process of thinking about emergent philosophical ideas, or emerging political coalitions, or whatever – this is starting to enter the domain of the commoner. And as that happens the grasp of the elites, the pundits, the academics has begun to slip. The barbarians are at the bloody gates. They won’t sack Rome, they just want access to the library, but for Zeus’s sakes keep them out!
Kevin Drum notes that in the past we knew exactly where to turn to find our Big Ideas. We knew which institutions mattered.
We’ve also changed the way we perceive big ideas. In the past maybe a few old professors would go smoke their pipes over cups of hot English tea and talk for hours in a romantic little cottage overlooking the sea and then ten years later we’d suddenly be subjected to the Big Ideas they came up with in the privacy of their little seaside chats. A journal would publish something about their Big Idea, and then a Big Newspaper or an Important Columnist would champion the Big Idea. Soon Important Professors would be teaching it, and stoned college kids would be debating it, and politicians would be plugging some bastardized version of it, and then it would find its way into a movie or a radio broadcast and then, finally then, the plebes would have access to it, and the smug information cartels would be on to the Next Big Idea and not a moment too soon.
There is nothing wrong with ideas created in this model. But we have a new model now, and it’s not the closed-door model (or at least it’s not only the closed door model). Information is a brushfire, decentralized but also highly exposed. The Twitter/blog/newspaper/magazine/television/book process is all jumbled up. Old guard players like professors are bloggers now, also, but they battle out ideas with schmucks like me. It’s top-down and bottom-up. We don’t know where to look so we suspect that all anyone cares about is the things we find aesthetically displeasing.
Now you can read books or magazine articles and almost trace back some of the thinking to blog posts you read a month or two or a year prior. Julian Sanchez coins some catchy phrase and six months later Paul Krugman’s writing about it in an Op/Ed. That’s not an example of a Big Idea, it’s an example of the process changing. The six old dudes drinking tea and smoking pipes in the English countryside have become six thousand people (sixty thousand, six hundred thousand!) on Twitter, the blogs, at coffee shops, in classrooms, in countries all across the world. The ideas come from the top and the bottom and they meet and converge and pound up against one another in the violent, visible ‘marketplace’ of thought and maybe if some Big Idea does emerge we don’t even notice because we watched it grow, like someone you see every day, you just don’t notice how they’ve changed until suddenly one day…
“What the future portends is more and more information — Everests of it,” writes Gabler. “There won’t be anything we won’t know. But there will be no one thinking about it.”
I will submit to you, dear reader, that this is pure nonsense; that it requires a view of the world and of one’s fellow man so cynical, so detached from reality, that the critique relies more on a myth than on a solid grasp of the truth.
There was never a time when everyone was really that interested in big ideas. Most people don’t really care that much, and throughout human history most people never really did. Now that there’s so much more media, so many more opportunities to trade in the currency of ideas, of course a lot of people are just going to resort to the lowest common denominator. But the fact that so many people really do care to engage one another about important issues – so many, in fact, that it has people like Gabler worried – that should be a testament to humanity’s hunger for ideas, for our social curiosity, not fodder for yet another End Times reproach.
The world is changing. It was ever thus. If that’s all you can think about maybe it’s not the stars you should look to, Brutus.
Big ideas look less so when you watch them being thought for the first time. I think this is good.
Big ideas were once world-shattering intellectual asteroids careening towards us from the mysterious depths of darkest academe. And so many would oppose them which threatened to extinguish their way of life. But now that they are diffuse collections and we feel safe as they brighten our skies.Report
I kinda side with Huxley on this. Yes, the ideas are out there but they are droplets in the sea of information, mostly trivial, that we are bombarded with. Often, to find a great idea, you must wade through an ocean of crap and you’re still largely relying on luck to stumble across the idea.
There is also a number of theories that state that our ability to comprehend has diminished. The basic gist of these theories is that we bombard our brain with multitasking demands all day long. We type our tweets while talking on a cell phone with one ear and listening to our Ipod with the other. In order to be able to process all this, our brains assigns less actual comprehension to each individual task. Over time, while we become better multitaskers, we lose the ability to think deeply on any one subject.
While those are theories, I think I believe in those theories. Just going off the political landscape, it seems that the number of people who are basing their information off sound bites seems to be increasing. While it is possible that it was always this way and I’m just being exposed to the fact that more people always felt this way, that wouldn’t explain the decline I’ve noticed in the political debate message boards, some of which I’ve been visiting for 9 years. On those boards, instead of presenting well-written arguments backed up by links to supporting evidence laid out in a scientific fashion, it seems that anything above a paragraph is increasingly thought of as TL;DR with the few remaining links going to horribly biased blogs for proof.
And now, for the TL;DR version
TL;DR version:Y’know, we do live in a country where Paris Hilton getting arrested made the front page and bumped stories about space shuttle launches/natural disasters off the front page.Report
You use “we” a lot in this comment. I’m not sure that “we” exists the way you paint the picture. I think this is a perception of things more than it is a reality of things (though there is always a hint of truth in every perception).Report
Do you think there has ever been a point in history when this wasn’t true. Big ideas linger in history better than the trivia, which can give you a distorted view of the past if you’re not careful.Report
And as that happens the grasp of the elites, the pundits, the academics has begun to slip. The barbarians are at the bloody gates. They won’t sack Rome, they just want access to the library, but for Zeus’s sakes keep them out!
Not entirely sure this is true. The elites are still pretty firmly ensconced. For all its democratization, media outlets are pretty committed to orthodoxy. Just look at the discussion of Paul hereabouts: doesn’t matter that he did so well in the straw poll, the elites fear him, so he’s ignored.
I think what’s really happening is that no one actually has to listen to the elites anymore, because there are now other things to do. People may never have been all that excited about sermons, but when a sermon was the only thing that passed for entertainment, pretty much the whole town would show up. Which is exactly what happened in many European and even American towns before the advent of mass media. Most people never really cared about ideas all that much, but they didn’t have any way of communicating their apathy and ennui, so the elites didn’t have to hear about it or be exposed to what most people actually wanted to watch: cat videos and celebrity gossip.
What’s threatening about this is that the elites have always been a bit insecure about their project, and now the masses are implicitly saying that said project is boring as hell.
The really scary thing is that the masses may be right.Report
Well I’m not really saying anything differently than this, and I largely agree with your diagnosis, actually. Sure, the old guard still has a firm grasp on the old ways, but like you said people no longer have to listen as much. Freedom to exit exists in spades.Report
I agree with practically everything you wrote here. Regarding technological achievements, George Gilder wrote a book years back (I can’t remember the title), when decentralization first started big time, about the link of ideas which went into some of the great modern technological break-throughs — it was amazing to follow the trail of ideas. It really gives you a better, organic understanding of a relatively free market and emerging order.Report
@M. I think Connections came out before Gilder’s book (although now I’m curious which one you meant, he has so many). Confession, I know George, and it will be up to the future historians to place him with the “big” thinkers, at least for his future vision, which while not un-erring is pretty damn good.
Bottom line, I’m much more of a technology guy than a “big idea” guy if those big ideas are merely philosophical in nature. They can make for interesting discussions (sometimes) but don’t seem to move the bar much in the big scheme of things. While the /supposedly/ big thinkers are coming up with bigger and more convoluted theories about man’s place in the universe, /my/ kind of big thinkers are coming up with the latest compounds, chips and photonics. Of course I’m biased coming from that world.Report
Thanks for the Connections reference. One of the most eye-opening programs I’ve ever seen.Report
It might have been the Spirit of Enterprise — I just can’t remember and it was so long ago I can’t find the book. Wealth and Poverty was the first Gilder book I read. A great mind, indeed.Report
The whole thing looks to me like a lament for the death of days when Argument By Authority was considered valid.Report
There are drawbacks to different approaches to Big Ideas.
I think your description of the “old way” is a little off-base, Erik, but that’s a digression… there are still drawbacks to the “old way”.
There are, however, big drawbacks to the approach of crowd-sourcing Big Ideas, too.
Jenny McCarthy and Autism. Deepak Chopra and almost anything. I can go on.
Crowdsourcing still relies on transitive trust, DD’s snark about Argument by Authority aside. And it’s just manifestly the case that lots of people have bad defaults for transitive trust placement, to ignore that is just magical thinking.
Gatekeeping can be nefarious and it can be useful, at the same time. From 10 yards away, you can sometimes figure out which it is. From 1000 yards away, they look remarkably similar.Report
The autism thing was born out of a fraudulent scientist and crowd-sourcing the response to it is also a good use of bottom-up information distribution.
I think what we’ve created now is more of a hybrid, not a full replacement of the old system. I suspect this will keep things a tiny bit more honest. Fewer barriers are a good thing, I think, in almost every arena.Report
In general, I agree… fewer barriers are indeed a good thing.
Or, perhaps it’s most true to say I think that default-allow (barring nefarious) is a better policy than default-deny (barring “proof” of good intentions) when it comes to debate. Particularly about Big Ideas.
I’m just pointing out that the big difficulty is in the exceptions.
Assuming everyone is participating honestly, the first approach is more efficient because nobody needs to prove their bona fides to get in on the conversation.
The flip side to that is if someone is *not* participating honestly, it’s hard to revoke their credentials in either case.
But in the gatekeeper case, you’re less likely to have dishonest actors in the first place. You may have excluded honest players, too, which is bad.
But Andrew Wakefield got his credentials revoked by the gatekeepers.
In the no-gatekeeper case, you have to depend upon everyone involved to revoke dishonest players’ contributions to the discussions, which is hard.
Which is why Jenny McCarthy still is out there talking about how bad vaccines are, even though Wakefield got his credentials revoked.
There are no problem-free approaches. They’re just different problems.Report
How exactly do you characterize the anti-anti-vax movement as bottom-up? It seems to me that it was pretty top-down, from expert to layperson and then from layperson to layperson. It’s one of the things that fuels the anti-vax cause, that the opposition to it is so rooted in the medical establishment (or which Wakesfield was an opportunistic renegade).Report
It’s both.Report
See Jurgen Habermas’s fake Twitter handle story for a mind-fuckingly ironic perspective on all this: http://www.guardian.co.uk/technology/2010/feb/02/jurgen-habermas-twitter-philosopher
A relevant quote: “It’s true that the internet has reactivated the grass-roots of an egalitarian public sphere of writers and readers. It also counterbalances the deficits from the impersonal and asymmetrical character of broadcasting insofar as it reintroduces deliberative elements in communication. Besides that, it can undermine the censorship of authoritarian regimes. But the rise of millions of fragmented discussions across the world tend instead to lead to fragmentation of audiences into isolated publics.”
I’m currently reading Structural Transformation of the Public Sphere, which really puts a lot of this stuff in perspective in a much more cogent and coherent way than Gabler’s piece.
Also check out this Gawker piece for a more hilarious perspective on this general crazy-stuff-happening-on-the-Internets motif: http://gawker.com/horsemaning/Report