Don’t blame interest rate policy?
Fed Chairman Ben Bernanke gave a speech to the American Economic Association yesterday. In it, he argued that the Fed’s interest rate policy circa 2003 played virtually no role in the financial crisis and the causes were due to regulatory failures (Speech here)
What policy implications should we draw? I noted earlier that the most important source of lower initial monthly payments, which allowed more people to enter the housing market and bid for properties, was not the general level of short-term interest rates, but the increasing use of more exotic types of mortgages and the associated decline of underwriting standards. That conclusion suggests that the best response to the housing bubble would have been regulatory, not monetary. Stronger regulation and supervision aimed at problems with underwriting practices and lenders’ risk management would have been a more effective and surgical approach to constraining the housing bubble than a general increase in interest rates. Moreover, regulators, supervisors, and the private sector could have more effectively addressed building risk concentrations and inadequate risk-management practices without necessarily having had to make a judgment about the sustainability of house price increases.
Technically, this is correct. I view the height of the housing bubble as the period from 2005 through 2006 with some residual carryover in the first half of 2007. The low interest rate environment was less a function of the Fed’s interest rate policy and more a result of increased demand for Treasuries from offshore sources looking to invest excess dollar-denominated reserves (also known as the global savings glut) in U.S. Treasury bonds. By the time the exotic mortgages were being churned out in record volumes, the Fed’s rate was continuing its upward march to 5.25%, which it reached by the middle of 2006 while the housing boom was running white hot.
However, the problem I have with Bernanke’s speech is that because he establishes no direct link between short-term interest rates and the increasing prevalence of exotic mortgages (presumably at the height of the bubble), the issue is not explored further. I believe this is a mistake and agree with Barry Ritholtz’s post on this subject:
What Bernanake seems to be overlooking in his exoneration of ultra-low rates was the impact they had on the world’s Bond managers — especially pension funds, large trusts and foundations. Subsequently, there was an enormous cascading effect of 1% Fed Funds rate on the demand for higher yielding instruments, like securitized mortgages (Yes, I laid all this out in the book).
An honest assessment of the crisis’ causation (and timeline) would look something like the following:
1. Ultra low interest rates led to a scramble for yield by fund managers;
2. Not coincidentally, there was a massive push into subprime lending by unregulated NONBANKS who existed solely to sell these mortgages to securitizers;
3. Since they were writing mortgages for resale (and held them only briefly) these non-bank lenders collapsed their lending standards; this allowed them to write many more mortgages;
4. These poorly underwritten loans — essentially junk paper — was sold to Wall Street for securitization in huge numbers.
5. Massive ratings fraud of these securities by Fitch, Moody’s and S&P led to a rating of this junk as TripleAAA.
6. That investment grade rating of junk paper allowed those scrambling bond managers (see #1) to purchase higher yield paper that they would not otherwise have been able to.
7. Increased leverage of investment houses allowed a huge securitization manufacturing process; Some iBanks also purchased this paper in enormous numbers;
8. More leverage took place in the shadow derivatives market. That allowed firms like AIG to write $3 trillion in derivative exposure, much of it in mortgage and credit related areas.
9. Compensation packages in the financial sector were asymmetrical, where employees had huge upside but shareholders (and eventually taxpayers) had huge downside. This (logically) led to increasingly aggressive and risky activity.
10. Once home prices began to fall, all of the above fell apart.
Ritholtz’s list is by far the best summary of this issue I have seen. Not only does he successfully distill the big picture of the financial crisis (no pun intended!) into a list of ten items in very accessible fashion but his list also demonstrates how interwoven these variables were. In light of this list, the Fed’s interest rate policy may not be as large a contributor to the crisis as, say, the idiocy of the ratings agencies; however, we should not ignore the fact that interest rates did play a role in setting the wheels in motion.
As a parting thought, with regard to the Fed having the ability to employ a “surgical approach” to containing bubbles (an exercise in wishful thinking if there ever was one) I leave you with this excerpt from Mark Thoma:
Greenspan would not allow new regulation to be imposed on the financial sector as those who tried to warn about the problems in housing markets and got nowhere (or were ridiculed) will attest. Bernanke was not among the few who were issuing warnings, but even if he had been the pleas for new regulation would not have been received well by Greenspan. The real problem was not Bernanke’s failure to call for regulation, the problem was the structure of power within the Fed that would not allow those who did see problems to bring their arguments forward and provide the persuasive evidence needed to turn their concerns into action.
But there was another, bigger problem that drove Greenspan’s views on regulation. Again, I don’t want a Fed Chair who is all powerful, a maverick who can take the Fed wherever he or she wants. One of the constraints the Fed operates under, and this includes Greenspan, is that the policies that are enacted must be within the accepted bounds of the economic profession. A maverick that goes outside these bounds may be successful, but the howls from the profession would be loud and it’s unlikely the Fed Chair would survive such an outcry. In any case, for the most part I’d prefer that that the Chair of the Fed follow accepted practices.
Greenspan was a hard-liner on regulation, certainly toward the tail of the distribution, but he was not outside what the profession believed. Economists, for the most part, believed that deregulation was good, that it had produced lots of valuable financial innovations. I can recall holding up a graph in class long ago showing how few bank failures there were the year before, there were hardly any, and asking if this was stifling progress in the financial area. My point is that Greenspan was doing exactly what most of the profession supported. Thus, when Bernanke also adopted a supportive stance toward deregulation, it was not as though there was a big debate within economics on this issue and he chose the wrong side. He simply thought what we all thought — he was part of one big collective mistake the profession made. Had Bernanke been arguing strongly for new regulation, nothing would have changed (except his reputation today). Greenspan would not have welcomed or supported a call for new regulation no matter how hard Bernanke might have argued, and the broader profession would not have supported it either.
To the extent that a lone voice jumping up and down to get the right person’s attention can successfully bring about this sort of change, the one-two punch of lobbying and regulatory capture will do just as much to stifle change as the internal workings of the Fed, which is exactly what happened with the last bubble.
we should not ignore the fact that interest rates did play a role in setting the wheels in motion.
Yes we should. Your correspondent lists ten factors of which this is just one. I light a cigarette and drop the smoldering match in a puddle of water, no problem. If Joseph Cassano and Franklin Raines drain the puddle while I am distracted and replace the contents with denatured alcohol, problem.
The notion that monetary policy has been to blame is quite attractive to economists (e.g. S.H. Hanke) promoting their pet projects (in his case, replacement of discretionary monetary policy with a currency board).Report
Art Deco,
The notion that monetary policy has been to blame is quite attractive to economists (e.g. S.H. Hanke) promoting their pet projects (in his case, replacement of discretionary monetary policy with a currency board).
If, for example, Austrian Business Cycle Theory is true, the personal agenda of those making that argument is meaningless IMO if ABCT is solid on its merits (which I think it is).
Ritholtz’s list does not apply to your analogy. Consider it a sequence of events where one triggers the next, and I think he is dead on right when he describes how interest rate policy influenced the behavior of yield-seeking bond investors, which led us to Wall Street, the ratings agency, soaring securitization volumes, etc. I think the roadmap is pretty clear but if you have an alternative, I’m all ears.
No one is saying that it is the sole cause and I would agree if someone told me that monetary policy had little influence at the height of the bubble for the reasons I explained above.Report
I would not doubt that Dr. Hanke adheres to his theories quite sincerely; I read his column on occasion and was, once upon a time, a student of his. That does not mean that he or Dr. Krugman or whomever else does not look at the world with distorting lenses. Others are emphasizing public subventions to home ownership, the community re-investment act, regulatory failure, and what not. His is a far more informed assessment than, say, Steven Sailer’s (who gives his readers a rerun of his ‘race realist’ act).
Personally, I am not familiar with Austrian theories. He did not used to teach them. As I understand it, they are not presented in models akin to those other economic theories are.
As is, I cannot see any sort of deterministic relationship between one step and another in Ritholtz sequence, which is to say of how nos. 2, 3, 5, 7, and 8 were a function of the Federal Funds rate.
I am not a sophisticate in these matters. I cannot help noticing that in real terms, the Federal Funds rate was abnormally low during 2002-04, not later. These rates were not unprecedented. The real rates prevailing in 1975-76 were even lower but were not succeeded by an asset bubble or banking crisis. Monetary policy during the years running from 1966 to 1980 was much more unstable and expansionary that was the case during the years running from 2001 to 2007. The only Depression we were facing was in Paul Erdman’s imagination.Report
Dear Art Deco,
I am Paul Erdman’s son-in-law and of course a great reader of his financial fiction (‘fi-fi’ as he called it). As we’ve lived the past year and more of our financial upheaval, I too have been made to often think of his plot lines where the worst (economically speaking) happens or is just barely averted. In fact at a gathering last year (not inappropriately enough at the world headquarters of JPMorgan Chase, the single largest player in derivatives), I asked a senior official (the number two to be exact) of the Federal Reserve if indeed the government had been trying to write their own version of a Paul Erdman novel by allowing Lehamn to fail that late Sunday night. The official chuckled as did others on the auspicious panel, after which he responded that there just weren’t enough assets to lend against in the case of Lehman. As I looked in from the outside that fateful weekend in September ’08 as the government played a game of chicken with the market, I didn’t seem to think there was much behind all the other institutions that were leaning against the ropes either.
Paul Erdman was born in 1932 — missing the actual crash of 29, and passed away April 2007 — before the whispers of liquidity started in late August 2007, the Bear Sterns firesale in March ’08 and the full force of the Great Disruption thereafter. He lived his life fully between two events the nature of which in fiction shaped his successful literary career. Nonetheless, from a perch elsewhere, I’m sure he had some interesting discussions with the likes of Joseph Schumpeter.Report
If I understood the news reports at the time, Lehman Brothers retained at the time of its failure a positive net worth and was sitting on a huge wad of cash. One financial columnist looking through the rubble estimated that its creditors would have to take haircuts of 10% to 23%. I cannot figure what the ‘not enough assets to lend against’ remark means; I do recall that Henry Paulson et al offered ever evolving and inconsistent explanations of what they did do and did not do. Given what happened in the succeeding weeks, it appears that what happened was a panic induced by anxieties over the credit default swaps on Lehman bonds and by the implosion of two money market funds which had invested in Lehman paper.Report
I’m certain everything you write is correct – it certainly leans more to the facts than anything that those at the financial helm in DC or down at the NYFed were saying at the time and afterwards. The NYFed was playing chicken with the market. I recall watching as they announced that weekend a special 2-hour trading session for the derivatives dealers so they could untangle that big ole bowl of pasta — and then, to my dismay, they announced an additional 2 hour extension. Somehow Mr. Geitner, who had spent the major part of his tenure at the NY Fed crying about derivatives exposures to no effect, now had convinced himself that a 4-hour extraordinary trading session would fix that mess. They lost the bet and we all ended up with a useless bowl of overcooked pasta. No one was more shocked by the outcome of this than Paulson — his ‘deer-in-the-headlights’ stare to the TV cameras in the ensuing days said it all.
Having witnessed and survived several economic crises in Emerging Markets, it occurred to me that in those early emergency days we could have used an ex-Latin finance minister who had seen these type of wars before. Unfortunately, our government folks at the helm were absolutely convinced that Paul Erdman’s plots were only existed in fiction. They think differently now I’m sure. And though they would never admit to it, I’m sure in hindsight they would find each and every way to save Lehman. Maybe Mr. Geitner will deliver a memoire mea culpa in a few decades…if the book deal is sweet enough.Report
I cannot help noticing that Drexel, Burnham, Lambert went bankrupt in 1990 without the world falling apart, and that (per the former chairman of the FDIC) not one of the ten largest banks in this country would have been deemed solvent in 1982 had mark-to-market accounting been in effect at that time (due to non-performing loans to foreign governments). It seems that changes in institutional arrangements and practices (e.g. credit default swaps, the disaggregation of mortgage lending, securitization of receivables, the return of universal banking, unrestricted consolidation in deposits-and-loans banking, cross-border deposits-and-loans banking, and accounting rules which confound liquidity with solvency) are not working out for us.
For my own part, I would hope that in the future they would devise institutional arrangements which would allow firms like Lehman to be rolled up rapidly with little collateral damage. We have the FDIC for deposits-and-loans institutions. Might it be possible to devise a receivership agency which could do the same for institutions with “a complicated trading book”?Report
Agreed — all you write is completely sensible and shouldn’t be hard to execute. I did say ‘shouldn’t be’. The problem, Art Deco, it seems to me is that humans will be human. Greed has a way of taking over and sooner or later a loophole is found that while at first is only the size of a pinhead is very soon opened to fit an entire market stampede, on four hooves screaming “moo!”. While that creates great opportunity for creative minds to write best-selling plot lines, it also presents a challenge for lowly-paid government regulators, who may often have the thought of crossing over to the promised land of the private sector in the back of their minds. How much can they bite the hand that may eventually feed them? Not too much, I would estimate. Think teacup Poodle, not Doberman.Report