In The First Circle Bookclub!
(Our kickoff post is here, and our discussion posts are here, here, here, here, here, here, here, and here.)
Ah, the denouement.
We’ve had some time to catch up, I hope (and if we fell behind schedule, I hope that the book held your interest enough to keep going despite the schedule). Over and over again, there were themes of the tiniest nooks and crannies the government stuck its nose into, themes of what the government claimed to have jurisdiction over, themes of what people were willing to live with, and through, and what they had to do in order to survive a sociopathic government.
This was one of the books that made me sit down and really explore the questions of “what is my relationship to authority? What is its relationship to me?”
Behind the cut, you’ll find a handful of omphaloskepsis on Libertarianism. You’ve been warned. If you wish to just jump ahead to the comments, I’d be delighted to read the questions that this book inspired for you, when you had a few minutes to staring at the bedroom ceiling, driving between errands, or walking to and from the water fountain, I’d like to know what did you think about the book as a whole? Can you believe that this only came out in 1968?
Most importantly: What questions started haunting you?
Back in March, in one of Kuznicki’s threads, the topic of how different folks came to Libertarianism came up. The general assumption out there (and we saw this back again last month with our discussion of Corey Robin’s article on Nietzsche being one of the fathers of Libertarianism via, you guessed it, the Austrian school) is this: People become Libertarians because of Economics.
This always strikes me as alien because I didn’t come to my Libertarianism via the big guys who everybody talks about when they talk about the economic fathers of Libertarianism. Heck, neither did I come to Libertarianism via The Mother Of Objectivism. I came to my Libertarianism via a handful of thinkers who, it seems to me, rarely come up in the discussions. Voltaire. Camus. Solzhenitsyn.
Not necessarily because they came out and said “Human Beings Need To Be Free To Drink Big Gulps” but because they wrote some amazing works that make me sit down and ask questions that haunted me. As such, I have to say that my Libertarianism isn’t Economic. It’s Existential. Now, of course, when you think about that stuff for long enough and go where it takes you, you do happen to end up with something a lot closer to Austrian Economics (with a handful of thoughts from the Monetarists) than to, say, Keynes… but that’s the cart. It’s not the horse.
So it’s through that particular weedy garden that I walked through to get where I am… and, as such, when I encounter cases such as “Citizens United v. Federal Election Commission“, my response is going to start with “THE GOVERNMENT CENSORED A POLITICAL MOVIE??? IT’S ARGUING THAT IT COULD BAN BOOKS???” rather than with questions of money being speech or corporations being people. Those questions seem so small compared to the question of the government censoring a political movie. In arguments over the recent PPACA and whether or not we, as a society, have a compelling interest in your food choices, my inclination is closer to asking “by what right do you have the authority to tell me what I can and cannot eat or drink?” than to point out that provision of the public good does give us, as a society, some input. (Indeed, The Pirate Guy had the comment of the thread when we discussed Bloomberg’s Big Gulp ban being overturned.) And then, when I stop asking about whether I can tell you that you can’t buy a Big Gulp, I turn my eye to the War On Drugs and see how very many things we throw people in jail for enjoying. And I look at the numbers of people we’ve imprisoned in the US.
And even when it comes to something as silly as 3D printing of handguns, I come back to one of Solzhenitsyn’s quotations from The Gulag Archipelago:
“And how we burned in the camps later, thinking: What would things have been like if every Security operative, when he went out at night to make an arrest, had been uncertain whether he would return alive and had to say good-bye to his family? Or if, during periods of mass arrests, as for example in Leningrad, when they arrested a quarter of the entire city, people had not simply sat there in their lairs, paling with terror at every bang of the downstairs door and at every step on the staircase, but had understood they had nothing left to lose and had boldly set up in the downstairs hall an ambush of half a dozen people with axes, hammers, pokers, or whatever else was at hand?… The Organs would very quickly have suffered a shortage of officers and transport and, notwithstanding all of Stalin’s thirst, the cursed machine would have ground to a halt! If…if…We didn’t love freedom enough. And even more – we had no awareness of the real situation…. We purely and simply deserved everything that happened afterward.”
And it’s with those thoughts do I realize that, in any given power dynamic, there’s the person doing the telling and the person being told. Prior to reading Solzhenitsyn, I was a lot more likely to take as my assumption that I would be one of the people doing the telling and, more than that, one of the *GOOD* people doing the telling. Look, drugs are bad. We need to keep prohibition up because drugs are bad. We need to protect children from these dangerous ideas… I understand that adults can probably handle them but we have a responsibility to children to make sure that they’re not exposed to anything toxic until they’re old enough to handle it. I even found a mini-essay I wrote about gun control (I used to be for it). The point of the essay was that we could trust our authorities in the absence of ubiquitous handguns among our kinsmen than we could trust our kinsmen with ubiquitous guns in the absence of our authorities.
And, yes, there’s a tiny bit of Rage Against The Machine in there too.
In any case, I hope that you enjoyed the book (or if “enjoyed” is the wrong word, I hope that your experience of the book was beneficial to you). And so I will ask one last time:
You, yes you! What did you think? What scenes, phrases, thoughts stuck out for you?
Not to threadjack or anything, but are you going to post a thread for suggestions for the next read? I have a good one.Report
Hrm. Sure. So let’s open up the comments for that too as well as “how can we make the next bookclub better?” kinda suggestions. (I’m under the impression that this one may have sucked.)Report
I propose Virginia Woolf’s Jacob’s Room. It is her first modernist novel, beautifully written and published in 1922. Although based on an incident from her family life, it tapped into a post-WWI feeling of loss and mourning for what many felt was a generation of young men.
The text is available online: http://www.gutenberg.org/ebooks/5670 and here ( http://www.guardian.co.uk/books/1922/nov/03/classics ) is one of the original reviews which accurately cites Woolf as an important writer who “Dostoievsky, Jane Austen, Meredith, the Bront?ës, and Henry James in his earlier manner.” Not bad for an author’s third book!Report
This is a great suggestion for the next book. It’s public domain (Dude! *I* should have thought of that!), it’s a classic that most people ought to have read but probably haven’t, and it looks like it’ll have a lot of grist for the mill.
Now, I will say that, for me (Jaybird) personally, I’m kinda looking forward to taking a month off from reading difficult things. Additionally, I’m less than feeling rewarded enough to want to host a second bookclub just yet. (Though I understand it’s a pain that you forget.)
With that said: if you’d like to run this Bookclub, I’ll be more than happy to set it up with the powers that be and I’d volunteer to be in charge of posting your Bookclub posts every week. (You can see my email up there.) My advice in the short term, however, would be to wait a month before announcing it. If we wait a month, I’m confident that I’ll be able to keep up with everything and thus you can count me in to reading the book as well as posting your posts for you.Report
That sounds fine. How about starting the week of July 1, with two additional posts on July 8 and July 15? It’s not a long book and not a conventional book either where a plot moves in ways we’re used to plots moving.
I can’t access my email from work but will email you later. You’ll have to let me know if there are any issues re formatting to work out if I send you an attachment in MSWord. Many thanks for the help!Report
One problem was that the book is so long; 6 weeks of reading > 100 pages of heavy stuff is a grind. And reading that much at a clip makes it hard to have focused discussions. The Woolf book doesn’t have either of those problems. (Its being available for free in all the popular Ebook formats is a plus too.)Report
I’ve found it difficult to devote time to reading and despite my enjoyment (if that’s the right word for so grim a story) I too have found it something of a grind.Report
Hrm. I suppose you all might be amused to hear that I originally thought that I should do it in two sessions, then four… then I settled on six because I thought that going for fewer than 100 pages would drive everybody nuts.
We’ll get this down eventually.Report
The challenge to bookclubbing Solzhenitsyn is that it seems so….presumptuous…after what he went through. You just want to tiptoe away without knocking anything over that might make a loud noise.Report
I read it first a long time ago, and was overwhelmed by the portrait of Soviet tyranny. 1984 made real. This time through, I was looking to see where, if anywhere, Solzhenitsyn saw hope. It was in simple people, the land, religion, the Russia that Communism had destroyed. That is, the Russia of the tsar. Certainly better than Stalin, but neither attractive nor practical.Report
I feel a bit guilty about not participating, both because I initially said I would and because Russian literature is sort of my thing. As a good lapsed Catholic, I feel it necessary to provide excuses, so 1) I started reading the book pretty much the moment I got it (on Jaybird’s suggestion — Jaybird says it’s good? Click!), which was maybe a week or two before the book club started, so I finished it over a month ago, and 2.) I don’t spend much time online on the weekends (often none at all), so I was worried that I wouldn’t be able to participate much in Sunday discussions (a couple times I didn’t even see the posts). I promise to try and participate in the Woolf one, though. I haven’t read any of her work since I was an undergrad.
For those of you who made it through The First Circle and enjoyed it, allow me to recommend a much shorter (just over 200 pages), much narrower, but equally powerful critique of Stalin’s Soviet Union, Platanov’s The Foundation Pit (his real family name was Klimentov, given and patronymic Andrei Platonovich, possible diminutives Diusha, Andriusha, Andriushka, and Andriushechka, which I mention because I know the people who’ve just made it through Solzhenitsyn will appreciate how confusing this can make things). It was not published until 1987, 36 years after Klimentov’s death, because the Soviet authorities refused to let it see the light of day. So you know it’s good.
And if you enjoy that, definitely read Platonov’s short story collection, Soul and Other Stories. This may come off as hyperbole, but his short stories, particularly Soul, are some of the most beautiful things I’ve ever read.Report
Oh, wow. I’ve never even heard of this.Report
For whatever reason — I don’t know much of the history but now that I think about it I’m tempted to read up on it — they were able to basically suppress his work completely, unlike Solzhenitsyn. Maybe because he died before Stalin was gone? Regardless of the reasons, his relatively late introduction to the western world meant significantly less exposure, I think. By the time The Foundation Pit was translated into English, the Soviet Union was almost gone.
I discovered him by accident: looking for Russian authors in a bookstore, I found Soul and Other Stories, and started reading it on the way home. His writing is on that level at which, after you read a bit, you have to just put the book down and sit there for a while, to give yourself time to come back down to this planet. As soon as I was done with the short stories, I had to find other stuff he’d written, and that led me to The Foundation Pit
The Foundation Pit is dark and funny, in a Russian way. Definitely worth the time (which isn’t very much time, because it’s friggin’ 200 pages, which is how long the backs of cereal boxes are in Russia).Report
I enjoyed the hell out of this book, and I’m going to go on to read Gulag when I get the chance–the three-volume set, not the abridged one. I was looking forward to the discussion and I was rather disappointed that there wasn’t more going on, and unfortunately I didn’t feel…I don’t know…smart enough?…to ask the good questions which might have stimulated more discussion.
A book like this is something I prefer to knock around in my own head, and then maybe pepper the hell out of Jaybird with questions while we’re sitting in his porch (yay Summer).
What did I get out of it? Well, it amazed me how self-referential (if that’s the right way to put it) the apparatus of the state can become (you must be guilty of something because we arrested you and the state is never wrong, therefore…). I loved the bits where we got to tiptoe through Stalin’s mental tulips as he rewrote the Revolution’s history to make it seem as if his tyrannical rule had been inevitable given the general weakness of character of the people. I was struck by the…ability?…resolve?…of the prisoners as they considered the length of their sentences and took it all with a shrug, as if to say, “What is to be done?” I wondered if I’d be able to face an endless prison sentence and the inevitability of a return to the hardships of the work camps as well as Nerzhin and the others did at the end.
(And I came to liber[al]tarianism through mostly frustration with D’s and R’s. And discussion with Jaybird. And probably wine.)Report