Linky Friday: Not Great, Bob Edition

Andrew Donaldson

Born and raised in West Virginia, Andrew has been the Managing Editor of Ordinary Times since 2018, is a widely published opinion writer, and appears in media, radio, and occasionally as a talking head on TV. He can usually be found misspelling/misusing words on Twitter@four4thefire. Andrew is the host of Heard Tell podcast. Subscribe to Andrew'sHeard Tell Substack for free here:

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  1. Oscar Gordon says:

    LF1: You can have my vote by mail when you pry it…

    LF3: Well, duh. Although the same could be said for Hillary, or Joe. Trump was just an extreme case of being utterly morally abhorrent.

    LF4: Because we haven’t had enough people with zero experience at the federal level running around in top jobs? Let Barr have the post, let him get things back under control, and keep Baradaran in the wings, or maybe strongly suggest Barr hire Baradaran as his top deputy.Report

  2. LeeEsq says:

    LF1: By hook or by crook, Georgian Republicans vow to make sure that Georgia doesn’t go Democratic.

    LF3: It’s almost as if being anti-abortion was about something besides the unborn. I wonder what that could be.Report

  3. Pinky says:

    LF3: There’s a lot in this I agree with.

    LF8: There’s no role for a member of the world’s greatest deliberative body on the ground in Texas.

    Limbuagh: Saul, you leveled a charge of anti-Semitism at Gina Carano on that thread. I’ve tried googling it, but the results are so swamped by the most recent story that I couldn’t spot anything. Could you provide links?Report

    • greginak in reply to Pinky says:

      Pinky- I’m on my phone and cant figure how to copy Twitter links. She posted a pic of a bunch of guys, two at least recognizable jews, sitting around a monopoly board on the backs of workers. The board is the world suggesting a shadowy group of jews are controlling everything while everybody else suffers. It’s a long standing anti Semitic trope. Like decades long. Maybe other people recognize more of the figures around the board. At least one is soros and another looks like bibi.

      The instant I saw the image it was a clear anti Semitic trope dating back to the OG nazis. I’ve seen things like it a hundred times.Report

      • Pinky in reply to greginak says:

        Is it “all we have to do is stand up…”? I just found that one. I’m not going to defend it. I’ll give her half the benefit of the doubt because that one was circulating a lot and she might not have understood its background. The only major change between the original and the version that’s been circulating is the faces of the “players” being originally much more stereotypical. There’s nothing great about the more common version, but it’d be possible to see it and think of the “players” as just billionaires (unless I’m overlooking a Star of David or somesuch).Report

        • greginak in reply to Pinky says:

          She could have solved most of the issue by saying “well crap, I didn’t understand this image. Sorry. I’m a rich celeb so I’ll donate to a local Jewish charity”

          She may really not know the hx of the image which is fine if mixed with a little humility. Instead she met it with culture warrior hostility and the desire to fight.Report

          • Pinky in reply to greginak says:

            I get called worse every day and I’m not going to apologize. If her crime is failing to treat the twitter mob with humility, then her case is dismissed, as it were, with prejudice.Report

            • greginak in reply to Pinky says:

              It’s easy to blame the “mob” for your own behavior. That’s a heck of a race to the bottom. Apologize because it’s the right thing to do and you made a mistake. Blaming the “mob” just says you are using the worst reactions/people to justify your own behavior.Report

              • Pinky in reply to greginak says:

                By the time she posted that picture, she had already had multiple run-ins with twitter mobs, so I doubt that there would have been enough trust on either side for her to have a calm, non-accusatory one-on-one discussion with someone about the mural. And yes, we agree that a lack of trust can result in a race to the bottom.Report

      • LeeEsq in reply to greginak says:

        It was a variant of the infamous mural that Jeremy Corbyn praised in London. Something that nearly every other Labour politician realized was deeply anti-Semitic. So for the left and right-wing anti-Semites, pure catnip.Report

        • greginak in reply to LeeEsq says:

          Yup. I don’t particularly blame a young actor for being clueless about that. An old Pol, yeah he should know better.Report

        • dhex in reply to LeeEsq says:

          weirdly, if you remove the obvious anti-semitic tropes, it’s pretty much representative of the economic worldview of most of america. (and the world, but let’s shop locally)

          it’s populism in a nutshell: someone, somewhere, is screwing you out of your birthright. the game is rigged and getting crookeder by the second. they’re getting rich off of you, and you deserve it more because you’re not evil like them!

          let’s get them back for the sake of great justice and a better world!

          the identity of the game riggers has to jive with the target audience of course, which is why sometimes it’s racist or religious bigotry, or just “generic rich white dudes,” or immigrants/emigres/gentrifiers, or something something something late capitalism. gotta have enough swing to be able to broadly serve as symbol of the hated other, but the framing is general pretty similar.Report

  4. LeeEsq says:

    The immigration bill is really good. Here are some of the high-lighted parts:
    1. Changes the word alien to non-citizen
    2. Green cards for non-citizens who entered as minors and people with Temporary Protected Status
    3. Eight year path to citizenship for all other non-citizen present in the United States before January 1, 2021
    4. Spouses, parents, and minor children of LPRs are now classified as immediate relatives. This means that an unlimited number of them can get visas every year. No more visa cap for them.
    5. The advantage of the above is that this frees up a lot of relative petition visas for other categories
    6. Unlawful presence is no longer a bar to admission or adjustment of status
    7. Humanitarian waivers available for nearly every ground of inadmissibility and removability including false claims to United States citizenship.
    8. U-visa expanded from 10,000 to 30,000 a year. Labor violations now including in the category of crimes that qualify an alien for a U-visaReport

  5. LeeEsq says:

    For immigration. Changing the word alien to non-citizen is important because alien implies doesn’t belong while non-citizen is just somebody who isn’t a citizen.Report