Star Wars: The Force Awakens Review


Mike Dwyer

Mike Dwyer is a former writer and contributor at Ordinary Times.

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  1. Avatar Dave Regio says:

    I think it would be helpful here to have a Spoiler Warning on either the title of the post or in the intro text. I like the way it was presented in the post, but just as an added measure.

    Also, how can comments with spoilers get posted without the spoilers seen in the State of the Discussion?

    I’ve already seen the movie but I don’t want to ruin anything is all.Report

    • Avatar Glyph says:

      how can comments with spoilers get posted without the spoilers seen in the State of the Discussion?

      Commenters can use the spoil button also, just tell them about it in the post intro.Report

  2. Avatar Glyph says:

    I think this is actually a review of the inevitable The Black Hole reboot.Report

  3. Avatar Burt Likko says:

    I too figured that Kylo Ren was Han and Leia’s son and, from the moment Han stepped out onto the bridge, I was figuring that Han was a goner. But I think Rey is going to turn out to be Luke’s daughter. From what mom? We don’t know yet but that’s probably okay. We know the Force is strong with her, strong enough to induce visions, strong enough that she successfully resisted Kylo Ren’s mind-probe, strong enough that she can do both the Jedi Mind Trick and telekinesis without ever having had a lick of training, strong enough that she won the climactic lightsaber duel against Kylo Ren, who has apparently been getting Sith training by Snoak for several years. Kylo Ren is strong in the Force because his grandfather was Darth Freakin’ Vader… so maybe Rey’s strong in the Force for the same reason.

    Now, here’s my three gripes: 1) Supreme Leader Snoke looks too much like Voldemort; I wish more imagination had gone in to his physical appearance. 2) Adam Driver doesn’t look much like either Carrie Fisher or Harrison Ford to me; Mr. Driver’s nose is too prominent and elongated to resemble either of them. And 3) You have a perfectly good, now-famous (thanks to Game of Thrones) Gwendoline Christie in a prominent, bad-ass role; let us see her face.

    The plot holes were trivial, IMO. I really enjoyed the new young cast and thought they turned in spot-on, credible, and emotionally engaging performances. Particularly compelling was Domhnall Gleeson, in my opinion: his performance as the Talented Young Fascist was thoroughly convincing and deliciously morally repellent, and it’s fun to see that the military guy has his act pretty much squared away while the Sith Apprentice clearly has a thing or two to learn before he masters his craft. This is an interesting transposition from Episode IV, which left an impression that Grand Moff Tarkin was a little bit past his best-used-by date (re hubris, blew up Alderaan just because he could) while Darth Vader was pretty much a BAMF for the whole original three-movie arc.

    Also, did you catch that Kylo Ren’s lightsaber blades, both the main blade and the crossguards, were kind of rough and flame-like around the edges? Not clean and controlled like the Skywalker family lightsaber. A touch, but a very cool one. Underlines that he’s not really in control of his skills yet. What am I saying, did you catch that. Of course you did. Same as the symbolism of his making his critical moral choice while standing party-way across a bridge.

    Speaking of lightsabers, the pleasingly ambiguous ending with Rey offering Luke his old lightsaber back and Luke just staring back at her. This speaks to me of Luke telling her, “That lightsaber belongs to you now,” which reinforces my own belief that Rey is his daughter.

    Because I already can barely bear to wait for Episode VIII now, I’ll just have to go back and see Episode VII again soon.Report

    • Avatar Mike Dwyer says:

      If I recall, making the lightaber is one of the last acts before someone officially becomes a Jedi and actually requires use of the Force to complete it. The fact that is is so ‘sloppy’ and that he was defeated by Rey says to me that he still has a ways to go. I like that contrast to Vader who was at the height of his powers in Episodes IV-VI.

      Also, Rogue One comes out next year, so that’s something to look forward to.Report

    • Avatar Autolukos says:

      Agreed about Rey’s parentage.

      I think they wanted to get Hamill’s face on screen, but I felt like the last scene should have been saved for the next movie. I would have preferred ending with the Falcon flying off into the unknown.Report

    • Since Rey and Finn are attracted to each other, they’re probably both Luke’s kids.Report

  4. Avatar Zac says:

    Star Wars spoiler: Reagan never got that shit to work.Report

  5. One of the many things my wife has done for me is offer to see the new Star Wars. This review–even sans the spoilers–makes me want to see it.Report

  6. Completely agree about your point 2. I spent a few minutes trying to puzzle out why the official government would have an arm called “The Resistance”, and finally just decided to ignore the whole thing.

    Also agreed about your point 8, but it gave Harrison Ford the chance to say that there’s always a way to blow those things up, which was the funniest line in the movie.Report

    • Avatar Mike Dwyer says:

      Am I also the only one that thought it was weird when Han borrowed Chewbacca’s bowcaster and said, “I like this thing!” as though it never occured to him to try it once in the last 30-40 years?Report

      • Avatar Kim says:

        Yes, of course that was weird. No, I didn’t notice it terribly much. (Probably because I hadn’t realized that was not just a “weapon of the moment”).Report

  7. Avatar Autolukos says:

    The one thing that bothered me above all: Abrams doing that thing he did in Star Trek where someone on the surface of a planet sees another planet destroyed with the naked eye. THAT’S NOT HOW DISTANCE WORKS, EVEN IN STAR WARS. Have Rey sense it in the force and Han get a call confirming it, or something.Report

    • Avatar Don Zeko says:

      Yeah, that bugged me too. I also felt that they should have done more to make us care about these nameless destroyed planets. In A New Hope, you get Leia pleading about Alderaan; here there’s nothing about them except for a shot of people looking terrified on the surface. Report

      • Avatar Alan Scott says:

        Yeah, I feel like it’s just one more example in the modern day quest to needlessly put 9/11 style destruction of random extras on the big screen, ramped up to 11 by making it an entire system of planets. That’s the one part of the movie that really left me cold.

        It is to Lucas’s credit that we never even see Alderaan up close in the original. All we get is to see the destruction as experienced by the characters we care about, especially Leia and Ben. And the movie is much stronger for it.

        Frankly, I think the movie would have worked better for me without the weapon ever being fired. I think the reactions of the characters to the destruction this time around didn’t sell me on the tragedy at all. I don’t think it did anything to illustrate the threat or raise the stakes. And the fact that a hundred billion people were killed and the on-screen characters treat it like their team lost a football game just killed all the immersion for me. The only good to come out of that sequence was the fascist speech before the weapon was fired–and they could have done that without the light-show.Report

        • Avatar Don Zeko says:

          Agreed. I’m not sure what exactly the connection is in my brain, but I’d associate that with another quibble: the big bad guy really left me cold. He reminded me of the villains from Guardians of the Galaxy, who were easily the weakest part about that movie. I’d much prefer a recognizably human Grand Moff Tarkin to a giant Gollum hologram that just kind of wants to be evil for evil’s sake.

          The flip side of this is that I think Kylo Ren was a good approach. They were very, very unlikely to make a villain as menacing as Vader in this one, so making a villain who is obviously insecure and not totally in control of himself or the situation was a good workaround.

          Oh, and speaking of 9/11 imagery, the theater I watched it in played a trailer for the new terrible-looking Superman v. Batman movie, in which apparently 9/11 happens again to DC-world on top of the super-duper 9/11 that was the climactic fight in Man of Steel. Ugh.Report

      • Avatar Guy says:

        I think it worked as far as they took it, they just didn’t take it far enough. The view from the planet’s surface would have worked excellently had any of the characters in the Resistance base actually acted like something happened. As @alan-scott says above, it just wasn’t treated as a serious loss.Report

  8. Avatar Guy says:

    One thing I would have liked to see more of: a jedi who doesn’t use a lightsaber, and a regular guy who does. I understand why they did what they did, and I’m not sure how exactly I would have liked the final fight to go (Finn losing to the injured-but-trained Kylo Ren was good, Rey kicking his ass only for him to be saved by a convenient chasm opening was less so), but I really like the idea that the saber is not what makes the jedi. Similarly, I’m not a huge fan of the stormtrooper with the electro-mace-thingy that Finn had to fight earlier in the movie. The original film was fine with characters not trained in the use of lightsabers using other weapons when they could; why not let Finn grab a blaster when he’s in a gunfight?Report

    • Avatar Kim says:

      Chasms are fine — look at Belle and Sebastian.
      But, you gotta actually establish “ground shaky, dance lightly” before you have chasms opening under people’s feet.

      That’s NOT something you get to simply drop on the audience.Report

    • Avatar Mike Dwyer says:

      I would have preferred that only Rey messed with the lightsaber, but it’s not that big of a deal. I heard some podcasters complaining about how good she was right out of the gate, but I think her proficiency with her staff makes it explainable. Plus, I think they are also really trying to indicate that Kylo Ren is only partially trained. Report

    • Avatar Alan Scott says:


      We saw Finn, who I really hope is a regular guy and not a jedi, use a lightsaber. And pretty well. I think the scene where he fights the stormtrooper with the electro-mace was important to establish that he was actually competent with the saber so that it didn’t come out of left field when he used in in the final fight. And the trooper using the electro-mace established why Finn was competent with the saber–these stormtroopers have training in hand-to-hand combat.Report

      • Avatar Alan Scott says:

        Mods, help. I just seriously fished up my attempt at spoiler tags. Can someone edit my post above so it’s properly censored?Report