Stupid Tuesday questions, Julia Roberts’ leftovers edition
Yesterday on the way home from lunch with a colleague, I was surprised to hear the song The Girl In the Corner on my car stereo.
Not that I should have been surprised, mind you. I was listening to Lyle Lovett’s Road to Ensenada after all, and Girl In the Corner is on that album — always has been, always will be. Still, it always sneaks up on me even after these years. It’s the last track on the album, but it isn’t listed. Moreover, it’s first chord follows about two minutes of silence after the last bars of the album’s titular track, which is the one that is listed as the album’s last. To be honest, I owned the CD for a long time before I knew Girl In the Corner was even on the damn thing, because after about 30 seconds I’d think something was wrong and advance my CD turntable. (“Advance my CD turntable” is the kind of phrase that makes me seem really old, but not nearly as old as “flipping the record,” which I am more than old enough too have done countless times.) And because in these days of iTunes I don’t listen to albums all the way through nearly as much as I used to, every time I hear Girl In the Corner it’s something pleasantly unexpected.
Oh, and there’s this: I also cry.
I’ve thought a lot over the years about why the song makes my eyes water so uncontrollably, but I’ll be damned if I can work it out. It’s not a sad song; indeed, its kind of happy. And while I find its melody is beautiful, I do not find it especially so. It’s lyrics are a wee bit clever, emphasis on “wee bit.” In fact, I’m going to quote the exact moment in the lyrics where my eyes go all water-worky so you can see what I mean when I say I have absolutely zero idea why the song effects me the way it does:
She said that girl in the corner, she’s more than pretty
And you’re not the first to look over her way.
And if you wanted, I could introduce you,
But you never will be the same.
Then she looked at me, and she laughed at me
And she extended her hand to me…
I know, right?
And no, before you ask, I don’t associate this song with a particular person, event or time in my life that makes the tears come — they just come.
And the thing is, Girl In the Corner isn’t my only example of this phenomena. There’s the moment in Paul Simon’s Graceland where he sings, “She comes back to tell me she’s gone/ As if I didn’t know that, as if I didn’t know my own bed/ As if I never noticed the way she brushed her hair from her forehead.” It also happens when I hear Rhapsody in Blue, but not during the third “movement” when the lush and achingly beautiful string section appears, but instead near the end during the fourth “movement,” when the city-street-esque cacophony suddenly gives way to the bouncy, train-like reprise from the second movement. (If you aren’t that familiar with Rhapsody in Blue, trust me — were you familiar, you’d be asking yourself right now, “why the fish does he tear up there?”)
And even though for me music is the most effective trigger, there are other works in other mediums of art that elicit the same kind of weird, unexplained intense emotional response: W.B. Yeat’s When You Are Old, Romare Bearden’s The Music Lesson, most of Terry GIlliam’s The Fisher King. Others, too.
And therein lies today’s non-Russelled Stupid Tuesday question: What pieces of music — or other works of art — inspire uncontrollable and hard-to-explain emotional reactions from you? Not because you broke up with The One That Got Away to that song, but because it touches something so deep and ineffable within you that you’re not entirely sure what it is that’s even being touched? Or does music and art not effect you that way — do you need for it to have a concrete thing in your past to attach to?
Or, to put this week’s Stupid Tuesday Question another way, exactly how crazy am I, anyway?
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Hmmm. I have pieces of art that affect me strongly, but not inexplicably, and ALSO not because I associate them with a particular person or memory; but because the piece *itself* evokes that emotion, very-explicably/intentionally.
That is, I know full well *why* they get me; but it doesn’t necessarily make me any more able to resist it.Report
Sometimes music makes me get a little foggy too. So I don’t think you’re crazy for that. But if that section of Rhapsody in Blue is what I’m thinking of, I’ve no clue at all why that would prime the waterworks.Report
Paintings by the pre-Raphealite Brotherhood inspire an extreme adverse reaction in me. They make me feel loathing and rage especially the ones with fantasy and middle ages themes.
There is something about the absolute prettiness that is extremely false to me. They portray a Middle Ages that never existed and this makes me angry for some reason. Semi-related, I am also strongly opposed and turned off by the art of Edumund Leighton who was not a pre-Raphaelite but did do fantasy scenes.
This is not to say that I dislike all representational art or art with a Romantic flair or 19th century art. I adore JMW Turner, David, and Goya, and the Impressionists and Post-Impressionists. There is just a period in the 19th century from the death of Turner until the rise of the Impressionists and post-Impressionists which I deplore. But I want my representational art to have truth. There is truth in a Rembrandt portrait. There is not truth in a pre-Raphaelite painting. I am also a huge fan of 20th century/modern art.
Many people seem to think that the pre-Raphaelite Brotherhood is the height of art though and anything after 1870 is invalid. I think there is more beauty in Rothko, Judd, and Flavin than there ever will be in something like this:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Edmund_LeightonReport
Hmm. You don’t seem to mind idealization in other art, do you? Michaelangelo’s David, for example?Report
What is this crying of which you speak…?
(Sorry, but if you are going to fill in for Russell, you are going to get the sorts of questions I lob his way.)Report
@kazzy Crying is that weird thing that happens to your eyes every time the Eagles lose in the playoffs.Report
Here is some Pre-Raphaelite art that I dislike:
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/94/John_Everett_Millais_-_Ophelia_-_Google_Art_Project.jpg/1280px-John_Everett_Millais_-_Ophelia_-_Google_Art_Project.jpg
I was discussing this on another part of the net. Someone pointed out that the pre-Raphaelites are popular because they are kind of comic bookey and also have a strong sense of narrative in their art. I don’t really need a strong sense of narrative.
What intrigues me though is that people who love literary fiction tend to love or at least have more tolerance for modern and non-representational art. People who love SF and Fantasy tend to really dislike non-representational art in my experience but love really old-school traditional art. The second part is slightly surprising to me considering how much of SF and Fantasy literature concentrates on what does not exist.
A lot of new fandom art seems to go for neo-Victorian twee and this also repulses me.Report
Down with the GothLolis!
//sorry, couldn’t resist.
I would be VERY surprised if most people who love SF and Fantasy dislike non-representational art. I’ve certainly never found that to be the case, and I hang with people who WRITE scifi. Disliking modern art seems to go with a particular personality profile that I associate more with extreme Christians than with Trudy’s Oglaf.Report
Saul,
I just threw up a little in my mouth.Report
@james-hanley
And yet many people love this stuff.Report
I understand some guy named Kincaid was sort of popular, too.Report
You know who else was a failure of an artist who was inexplicably popular…Report
Captain & Teneal?Report
Johnny Manziel? Oh, artist.Report
Now, Imagine that painting, as originally conceived — with a water rat swimming beside Ophelia.
I find that a bit more amusing… and down to earth.Report
Pre-Raphaelite art looks like more polished versions of the illustrations of the covers to fantasy novels and science fiction books. Its not really surprising that fantasy and science fiction fans like it.Report
There is a moment in “Infinite Jest,” when one character is tending to another character who has been grievously wounded. The wounded character is a man, the one tending to him a woman. She wears a veil, for reasons that readers must determine for themselves. At one point during the scene, the man looks up at the woman and realizes that he knows her from somewhere else, he has recognized her voice. And she looks down and says “And lo.”
It makes no sense out of context. Every single time I read that passage (I’ve read the book three times), it clenches my throat up tight. It’s a small, beautiful moment. Two sad and lonely people have come to care about each other, and a particularly sad and lonely person has allowed someone else to discover who she is.
Makes me cry every time.
As for the song, I don’t know. It seems to describe another small moment, when something happy and human happens. Life is made of those small moments, though, isn’t it? In the treasure box I’ll get to take to heaven with men (a subject of an as-yet unwritten Tuesday question), I’ll get to have a little collection of those moments, shiny little memories I’ll be allowed to keep. The moment my best friends from medical school asked me to be in their wedding. Laughing in high school next to a friend while we rode a roller coaster together. Watching my oldest child toddle toward the ocean.
Moments are beautiful. And beauty makes us cry.Report
“Moments are beautiful. And beauty makes us cry.”
This is true, I realize as I get older. I choke up just when something is done well. Infinite Jest is definitely done well. Don Gately’s dream epiphany about the hard-ass Sergeant-at-Arms of addiction always does it for me.Report
I’m just impressed he’s read IJ thrice. I’ve only read it once, and that’s a lot of moments.Report
Jackson Browne’s “That Girl Could Sing”, because of a girl who was a friend to me when I needed one, who gave me back something that was missing in me, who could have turned out to be almost anyone with the possible exception of who I wanted her to be.
Peter Gabriel’s “Solesbury Hill”, because of no reason that my conscious mind is aware of.
A few years back I fell apart after seeing a few seconds of The Little Drummer Boy – I hadn’t seen it since I was a child, and every single youthful Christmas memory came flooding back in an instant.Report
Also – Joan Miro’s works seem to be (I have to say this as a programmer, because I don’t know how else to say it) written in the brain’s machine code, at some untranslatable pre-thought level. Surrealism bores me for the most part, but his stuff, at least some of it, hits me like seasickness and the sirens’ call at the same time. I haven’t seen much Hieronymus Bosch, but I think the effect is similar.Report
I’ve never quite had that experience, because emotion *is* evocative of memory for me. So even if some moment in a song doesn’t have anything to do with my life, the second I react, my brain will start pulling up memories to go with that feeling.Report
A couple years ago there was an art exhibit at the Frist in Nashville while I was home with my son, centered around Manet and his contemporaries/students (something like “Pre-Impressionism”). My Mom and I took my son, and about a third of the way through he noticed tears in my eyes, and I had to explain that sometimes art is a little overwhelming, especially in person, and particularly when you see paintings that you’ve loved for a long time from a distance. He got it, though, because even when he was little he used to describe some music by saying, “It makes me sad and that makes me happy.”
I’ve mentioned it before, but Anna’s letter to her son in Life and Fate is the sort of thing that is virtually impossible to get through with dry eyes. It begins,
And gets more difficult from there, ending with:
It’s even more difficult to read when you understand that Grossman is writing about the circumstances under which his own mother died, and essentially imagining what she might have said to him, were she able to.Report
I have always loved “Girl in the Corner.” I can’t remember if I heard it the first time I played the CD or if it took a while to discover it. But I did discover it on my own, which is part of the charm.
I always figured the singer ends up not with the girl in the corner, but with the hostess of the party whose hand is extended. Maybe she’s not the hostess, but the woman he’s talking to. Is this the way you read it too? I think it’s pretty obvious but I am just checking.
If so, doesn’t that explain, at least partly, why this part of the song affects you? It’s not the girl in the corner! This is when it becomes clear. It’s the other one!Report
Huh! You know, I have to admit it’s never even occurred to me to look at it that way. I’ve always assumed the person at the end is the girl in the corner. But now that you say it, I’m not sure that I’m right. At the very least, I think it’s ambiguous.
But man, you just blew my mind.
Thanks so much for this comment.Report
Yeah this is one of the reasons I like the song so much. You are focused on the girl in the corner, but the woman next to you is laughing at you in a very knowing way. She knows how the girl in the corner affects people. The laughing is not mean-spirited at all, but is affectionate. She knows you better than you know yourself. And then the moment she extends her hand to you, to take you to the girl in the corner, b/c that’s what you say you want–that’s when you realize how much you like the one you’ve been talking to. I don’t cry but it’s kind of goose-pimple-y.Report
I always assumed it was about Julia Roberts. Or really, the Julia Roberts Effect On A Man As
RecountedImagined By Lyle Lovette.The thing about Lyle is that when he *wants* his singing voice to break you down, he can and will do it. Think about the last few lines of the Porch Song. Some of Neil Young’s stuff has that effect on me, too.Report
“The Patriot Game” doesn’t make me cry, but it does fill me with a melancholy attitude about humans, like no other song out there.
“The Parting Glass” makes me tear up a bit, now, because there are people for whom I know I shall play it at some point in the too-near future.
“Super Bon Bon” makes me feel like it’s time to be as goofy as you can be.
“Killing in the Name” makes me angry. Come to think of it, “songs that make me angry” could be a rather long list.Report
Killing in the Name is one of those songs that moves me in a way I simply cannot explain. It’s not that it makes me angry or any other specific, easily identifiable, emotion, tho that’s part of it. It’s definitely something different.Report
I don’t know how to embed things properly, so maybe some can fix this after I’ve posted it, but there a moment in an episode of the West Wing I’ve seen dozens of times that always makes me choke up. It’s right around the 2:30 mark in this clip. I don’t know why it makes me choke up, because there is literally nothing else in art I’ve encountered thus far that elicits that reaction, but, well, here it is:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jMUFP3x-cnoReport
There’s a moment in Bruce Springsteen’s “Rosalita (Come Out Tonight)” where he half-whispers, half-yells “a record company, Rosie, just gave me a big advance!” that for some reason does it for me every time. Wish I knew why.Report
1. I’ve seen this movie any number of times and this scene gets me every time. I even teared up watching it on YouTube:
http://youtu.be/qwB7fRI-jp8
2. I’ve reread Cormac McCarthy’s The Road dozens of times, often in one sitting. It’s a very powerful book, one in which I see something new each time. This passage moves me each time I read it even though the message just about hits you over the head.
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The opening verse of Jackson Browne’s “The Load-Out”. It’s enough of a reflex after all these years that just hearing the opening piano line makes me tear up.
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A big surprise for me was walking into one of the Raphael Rooms in the Vatican — there was “The School of Athens.” Had never even heard of it before. Sat down immediately and started to cry. In my 30s, then, and not a big art fan. Really have never quite grasped my tearful response. Granted, it had been a long sojourn through Europe and I had been exposed to a lot of art that I had been completely unaware of, and all in the company of a lady who could explain a lot to me. But tears?
Something about the expert, emotionally full representation of high human thought, aspirations, and achievements. Both the reverent execution and the subject matter struck me as so human. I felt some connection with the more valuable aspects of my species. Perhaps we aren’t all that bad. Perhaps there’s hope. Perhaps we are worth the oxygen. A good moment, and one I’m thankful to have had.Report