The FDA’s Light Hammer Comes Down
The FDA has announced its initial regulatory intent with ecigarettes:
Health warnings would also be required and the sale of the products in vending machines would be prohibited. Initially, the only health warning required for e-cigarettes would be about the potential for addiction to nicotine.
Manufacturers would be required to register all their products and ingredients with the FDA. They would only be able to market new products after an FDA review, and they would need to provide scientific evidence before making any claims of direct or implied risk reduction associated with their product.
Companies would also no longer be allowed to give out free samples.
After the public comment period and once the proposed rules are finalized, manufacturers will have 24 months to submit an application to allow their products to remain on the market or submit a new product application.
E-cigarettes deliver nicotine to the user as a vapor. They are usually battery-operated and come with a replaceable cartridge that contains liquid nicotine. When heated, the liquid in the cartridge turns into a vapor that’s inhaled.
As someone who was expecting our own regulatory proposals to mirror Europe’s, I am honestly quite relieved. Counterproductive in some areas, but in others I don’t think they went far enough. Yet, that is. Which is the caveat. The indications are that there will be more to come.
What they should have done, and did:
They restricted purchasing to minors. This may have been a non-issue, but if nothing else this will save countless jurisdictions across the country from having to pass their own laws and ordinances.
They prohibited free samples and restricted vending machines. This was not a problem yet, but was a potential future problem. There are people we want to get ecigarettes, and there are people we would rather not get them. While – except for the case with minors – I don’t want the law determining who can and cannot get them, I think it’s probably good not to encourage it for everybody when it’s just a subset of the population that we want to go that route.
They requited companies to register their ingredients. This is going to drive up costs of ejuice, which I don’t like. Ultimately, though, quality control is sadly a necessity. If left unbound, it’s pretty easy to imagine that companies will start needlessly putting more chemicals into the juice to ramp up addiction and/or increase performance in unnecessarily unhealthy ways. There is, I should point out, only very little evidence that this has happened thus far. Rather, there is evidence that some have, but not that it is particularly widespread. Cigarettes contain over 1100 carcinogens, and the “damning” study of ecigarettes found nine.
What they should have done, and did not do:
Restricting general advertising: My primary worry with advertising is the extent to which the ecigarette companies are going to shoot themselves in the foot and justify future regulation later. Since I don’t want ecigarettes to be a general-use product, I think there are good arguments for letting this primarily work through word-of-mouth. When I was in Vegas, I actually talked to a couple of people who were wondering what it was I was smoking. That’s probably the best way for expansion to occur. This is especially true given that ecigarette companies can’t advertise on the basis that I would want them to. Moe on this later.
Bottling requirements: As Lain has grown taller and her fine motor skills have improved, I’ve been scrambling to figure out what to do with the ejuice that would be toxic for her if she got a hold of it. Many of the fears in this domain are overwrought, and arguably the lack of child-proof containers has made me more vigilant about keeping it all out of her reach than I otherwise might be (falsely assuming that child-proof actually means child-proof). However, it’s still poison and I would like this issue removed from the table as a basis to prevent ejuice sales. From my own standpoint, among the last things I want is for the industry to be limited to hard-packed cartridges. It’s one of the few things that could have me smoking again.
What they should not have done, but did anyway:
They went overly restrictive on health claims: At least, I think they did. I understand the concerns of overstated health claims. They’re legitimate. The end result of this, though, is that ecigarette makers cannot market the product for what we want it used for (smoking cessations and alternatives) and will have to market it on the basis of what we don’t want. That it’s cool, sexy, and so on. As Dr. Siegel said: [T]his is going to force companies to rely on other methods to pitch their products, such as using sexy models, emphasizing that e-cigarettes can be used where tobacco cigarettes are allowed, and relying on celebrity endorsements. The FDA is literally forcing e-cigarette companies to lie about their products and instead of pitching them as safer alternatives to smoking, to pitch them with non-health-related benefits. The rules are so stringent that they theoretically cannot even make the factual claim that ecigarettes do not emit smoke.
Requiring pre-approval for new products: This makes more sense for cigarettes than it does for ecigarettes. We want ecigarette device manufactuers to improve their product and this will make innovation more difficult. Had this been passed ten years ago, we probably would not have the effective devices that we do now that helped me quit smoking. Better devices mean more flexibility with ingredients, which in turn means that the FDA can more tightly regulate what goes in the ejuice without affecting performance. This one may have been a necessary evil, though instead of punting regulations about advertising to some future date, I wish they’d shown more flexibility here. On the upshot, they are not requiring pre-approval for two years. I wish they had made it five. (Devices over the next two years will require approval, but can sell in the meantime.) Or put more simply, this is something that probably did need to be done, but did not need to be done this early.
What they should not have done, and did not do:
They did not restrict online sales (for adults): This was one of the things I was most afraid of and one of the things that health activists were asking for. Restricting online sales would have either required me to transition back to the cartomizers (cartridge-based devices like Blu or NJoy) or drive an hour to the nearest vaping shop. It would have increased costs considerably and in the case of cartomizers would have more than wiped out the price advantage. I switched away from cartomizers in good part because when I did the math, the Blus were not actually saving me money compared to Camels. That was with online sales. Without, Blus would have been more expensive. Further, knowing that I would be able to order products online as well as getting them at supermarkets was one of the things that convinced me that ecigaettes were available enough for me to make the transition. (I can elaborate on this if anyone is curious).
Restricting tank sizes: This one was of the more inexplicable things that the EU did in their own Tobacco Prime Directive. In and of itself, it is not actually all that big of a deal. For me personally, it would likely have resulted in my having to toss all of my current devices and start again from scratch. This would have been a huge hit for me personally, though not an end-of-the-world thing. What would have really disturbed me about it is that it serves absolutely no purpose and would have signaled to me that the government was primed up to toss out regulations that sounded effective but had little basis in how the product was actually used.
They do not require health warnings that are false or misleading. There were calls for ecigarettes to contain the exact same health warnings as cigarettes, where they clearly do not apply. Anti-ecigarette activists are becoming increasingly insistent that ecigarettes are, health-wise, the equivalent of regular cigarettes. (Do they really think that if I can’t quit, I should just go back to smoking?). Instead, the only required warning is that nicotine is addictive. This is sufficiently uncontested as to be unobjectionable. In between what the activists wanted and what actually occurred (or didn’t occur), I was also fearful that they would simply find potentially misleading but technically true disclaimers (“The FDA has not determined that ecigarettes are any less dangerous than conventional cigarettes”). But they haven’t done anything except stick to nicotine-is-addictive, which is good.
They do not ban the use of flavoring. One of the more irritating aspects of the debate has been the insistence that the only reason the ecigarette companies use flavoring is to attract children. But adults like flavoring, too. Nicorette uses fruit flavoring. It also provides a unique advantage of ecigarettes over the conventional sort. These are helpful because they prevent relapsing. They also provide a barrier to “gateway” concerns. If you’re puffing on fruit flavors, that’s something that conventional cigarettes can’t deliver on. If what you’re puffing on has to taste like tobacco, then it’s a much shorter leap to conventional cigarettes. I am personally not remarkably concerned about gateway effects to analogs, but critics of ecigarettes are. If they are, then this should be welcome.
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As just about any regulation would, this will comparatively favor the major producers. In this case, it means the tobacco companies that have the money and the distribution networks. However, this doesn’t come close to the sort of standardization requirements I had feared that could have – if taken to excess – pushed the industry into the cartomizer storefront segment and away from more effective devices that may succeed (in helping people to quit smoking) where the cartomizers fail. One of the important things about being flexible here is that smoking cessation is so tricky that you want as many avenues as possible. That includes not just the existence and availability of ecigarettes, but other things like flavoring and a variety of delivery devices.
The long and short of it is that this is probably the best I could have hoped for. They got some things right and other things wrong, but this is actually probably better than we would have gotten under President Romney or President McCain. The big thing here for regulators is the FDA taking ownership here. This allows them to fight future battles and pile on at a later date if they muster the support (popular or scientific). Even if I don’t agree with all of it, the fact that there is at least a basis for doing what they did – in contrast to the EU – and they are genuinely taking a wait-and-see perspective gives me hope that a reasonably good precedent has been set. Some degree of regulation was necessary, and this starts it off on something resembling the right foot.
Reading this I’m gettin the impression that it’s relatively good news all things considered. Certainly could be much much worse so that’s pretty encouraging.Report
@north This is about right. Even Reason found little reason to complain. I’d been getting really worried in the last week or two. So far, so good. Not perfect, of course, but pretty good. The only lingering issue is what the FDA pre-approval is going to look like in practice. I’m hearing some mixed things.Report
Will, could you explain what you mean by “Bottling Requirements”? I get the sense that this means the cartridges with nicotine and flavoring etc that are put into(?) the ecigarette, but I really don’t know much about the mechanics of ecigarettes. I do know that nicotine is a fairly powerful poison, so that’s why I’m guessing as I am.Report
(I think you had an earlier piece discussing this topic as well. If so, it’d be great to have a link!)Report
I wrote about it here and here.
I’m not sure if those will answer many questions as they don’t get too much into the mechanics of it. I’m more than happy to answer any questions you might have.
For what it’s worth, these are cartomizer-based ones that use cartridges. They were what I started on. I have since graduated to these, which rely on tanks and ejuice like what you get here.Report
hey will, dumb question, but for lack of a better phrasing do you feel like a bit of drip when vaping in public? e.g. the designs tend to have a certain long black trenchcoat ’99 matrix-y vibe.Report
Will always makes sure to pair it with his Blade Runner umbrella.Report
@dhex RelevantReport
There are two ways to get ejuice. The first is in a cartridge. You put the cartridge on the battery and you’re good to go and you throw it out when you’re done. In a cartridge, there is little chance of leakage or exposure. These tend to be expensive because they’re not refillable.
The second kind is the refillable tank. When you use a refillable tank, you order vials of ejuice and fill up the tank yourself. The problem is that the vial that comes in could be opened and drunk, if you were so inclined.
An important thing to remember is that nicotine=!ejuice. The average ejuice contains between 0-3% nicotine, though anything above 1.75% is very atypical. Maximum strength from my supplier is 1.6%. I’m sure some out there sell higher doses, though I’ve never seen it. I point this out because some news outlets often conflate nicotine and ejuice, or mistake the mcg/ml rating as a percentage (so that 24mcg/ml is said to be 24% nicotine).
I think that ejuice should come in childproof containers or at least have better standards. The ones I have are not very secure. Some are better than others. The coverage of poisoning incidents only came to light recently, so I would expect the FDA to act on this sooner rather than later.
So far, no one has died from it to my knowledge. I’m not sure how much you would have to drink to die. The good news is that (and the press has misunderstood this) it does not taste good*. Even fruity flavors do not taste good. It’s not the sort of thing that someone is going to drink.
I’m not sure how much it would take to kill somebody, but any which way there is an apparent hazard that can relatively inexpensively be remedied. One of the types of bottles I have is just a bottle with a syringe, where you could theoretically drink it and get a lot into your system before you realize how terrible it is. Most you have to actively squirt, though. But even for those, I would like the cap to be childproof.
* – I know this due to periodic device malfunctions. Nothing dangerous to me. It’s taste is… sharp enough that I immediately investigate what the problem is.Report
Oh, okay. Thanks for the info, Will!
So ejuice is mostly water, then 0-3% nicotine and various flavors? Is it sometimes actually sold without nicotine? Why would anyone want that?
It does sound like the FDA took a generally reasonable approach on most issues here. I have a friend who was able to quit smoking by switching to ecigarettes after several unsuccessful tries with other methods. My mom also died quite young from lung cancer. I’d hate to see ecigarettes become too difficult to get or too expensive to be a reasonable alternative for smokers.Report
Actually, it’s mostly Propylene Glycol (PG) or Vegetable Glycerin (VG)Report
Will:
A simple google search turns up one kid in Israel has died and scores in FL have been poisoned.
http://www.timesofisrael.com/police-investigating-toddler-death-from-nicotine-overdose/
http://www.abcactionnews.com/news/local-news/i-team-investigates/e-cigarette-liquid-blamed-for-poisoning-children
Frankly, I’m glad to see the FDA come down on the e-cigs. Why should the folks that use them escape regulation?Report
Thanks for the link. So there has indeed been a reported death. I knew that there have be exposing incidents in the US.Report
@zane
For the same reason some people drink decaf coffee. Sort of. I hope to work my way down to nicotine-free. For many, that’s actually the last step towards complete smoking/vaping cessation. A part of me wants to get there, but I would be really happy if I was satisfied just vaping the nico-free stuff and getting my kick from caffine.Report
Re: adults liking flavor as well, you could also cite the popularity of hookah.Report
I know nothing about this (and what I’m about to say will probably cement that opinion for everyone), but as a non-smoker and non-marijuana user, I just always assumed people used hookahs for… non-legal smokable substances.Report
This is likely my Middle Eastern descent speaking, but I know a bunch of people that don’t smoke but partake in periodic hookah.Report
There are hookah lounges back home. It was the camel’s nose that eventually allowed for smoking lounges within city limits. They allowed hookah lounges and prohibited smoking in them. Someone pointed out the incongruity and they started allowing smoking, too.
This is in contrast to NYC which has hookah lounges but cigarette smoking and vaping are not allowed there.
Washington state, meanwhile (or maybe it’s just Seattle, I’d have to go check) has cigar lounges, where cigarette smoking is prohibited. Not sure about vaping.Report
I’d have liked to see the health warnings be a little bit stronger.
The public tends to see the dangers of tobacco smoking as being all about cancers, but cigarettes also give people heart attacks, and it’s the nicotine that causes that.Report
I would be perfectly fine with a warning about heart attacks.Report
@alan-scott @will-truman Not really. AFAIK, it’s not the nicotine that causes the atherosclerosis and the carbon monoxide issues are 100% combustion related. So the only nicotine effects are the increased heart rate.Report
It must be such a wonderful thing for the FDA, that nicotine is associated with smoking. That lets them just tar, as it were, nicotine with the same brush they use for smoking; who’s going to advocate for relaxation of standards on nicotine consumption? Nicotine is in cigarettes and therefore IT’S BAD EVIL CANCER JUJU.
I’m pretty sure they’ve been wracking their brains trying to figure out a way to ban caffiene.Report
I’ve been watching people talk about regulating ecigarettes with complete amazement. It’s just astonishing the amount of nonsense showing up.
For example, why on *earth* would random people who didn’t smoke be tempted into vaping, and, if they didn’t already smoke, *why would they use nicotine*? What sort of crazy person would do that? Why do we care about this stupid hypothetical?
And we have a rather large public-health reason to reduce the amount of smoking…but do we actually have any public health reason to reduce the amount of *nicotine* use? Yes, it’s not great for you, and highly addictive, but is it worse than, for a random example, caffeine?
Considering the complete stupidity of people about this, I suggest that the industry made a mistake when it called them ‘ecigarettes’. They should have invented some new name, and talked about the flavors and stuff, and only incidentally mentioned ‘BTW, if you’re addicted to cigarettes, you can get special juices with nicotine in them, which act like nicotine gum.’
No, that wouldn’t have really worked, but 90% of the people on the ‘regulate ecigarettes’ side are so astonishingly stupid that I suspect if they were called ‘portable vaporizer’ or something, it wouldn’t even trigger in their head.
Of course, these are the same people that don’t allow smokers to stand near buildings or anything, because they might pass within ten feet of someone smoking and instantly get secondhand smoke cancer. When in actuality, if you’re outside, you’re pretty much not getting any appreciably amount of secondhand smoke, especially for the three seconds it takes to walk past someone. (No, smelling it does not mean you are inhaling smoke.) But heaven forbid we have any sort of sanity in that policy.
Note I’m saying this as someone who thinks cigarettes should actually *be slowly banned*, as in, we should slowly raise the smoking age. Someone who is ten years old right now should *never* be able to smoke legally. Because I believe in actual medical evidence…smoking is horrifically bad for you. And I also believe the actual scientific evidence that secondhand smoke is almost as harmful for people to spend hours in smoke a day in an enclosed space…but outside? For a split second? Uh, no. You inhaled more toxic chemicals sitting at that red light behind another car.Report
Well, I’m glad to know that the regulators are just as stupid as the consumers.
“E-cigarettes! WE NEED RULES AND REGULATIONS!!!!”
Otherwise, I might have to rethink libertarianism.Report
Erm…what?
The regulators were not stupid. The regulators ignored the stupid people and made reasonable rules.
In fact, they didn’t go far enough. They really should be requiring some sort of childproofing or *something* on the bottles. Perhaps some sort of mechanism where the way to refill a cartridge is to lock it in place and tilt the bottle, and that’s the only way the liquid normally leaves the bottle…it never actually pours through open air.
I mean, unlike normal childproofing, we don’t have to make it easy enough for adults to get into it. No one needs to ‘get into’ it…they just need to refill one specific thing with it. So make it where it only pours when that one things is attached. (This is assuming a standardization of cartridge sizes that I am sure does not exist at the moment, so this obviously would have to be phased in.)Report
I agree with you about the child-proof containers, but your other ideas are more complicated than they might initially appear. Different devices work different ways and the market is still sorting out which way is superior. Maybe if I could see what you were talking about, I could figure out how it could get into cartomizers and clearomizers (it would almost certainly require the banning of pure atomizers) and whether the topping off becomes a problem.
It’s not quite as simple as letting it run empty or near empty and then refilling it. My device is theoretically supposed to be refilled when it’s less than a quarter empty. That’s overboard, but most of what I read says not to let it get more than 2/3 empty.
The other thing to keep in mind is that there may be more to the size differentials than manufacturer whims or slight customer preferences. A lot of people – like myself – get started on the ones that look and feel like regular cigarettes. This necessitates smaller cartridges. However, once you ‘graduate’ from those devices, the 1ml (typically) limitation becomes a real annoyance. My device’s 2.5ml tank is adequate, but wouldn’t fit on anything meant to look and feel like a cigarette.
You could possibly get around this by mandating a 2ml tank or something and saying that 1ml tanks must be sealed cartridges. Which is what my Blus were, though not all of them are. It’s one of the differences between storefront items and more specialty devices. But it would be possible.
I would probably advise going with standardized packaging of the liquids short of what you describe. Requiring child-proofing and then even if they get in there they have to squirt it. (One of my types of bottles, once you get the lid off, a child can try to drink it and get a lot in he before she realizes how disgusting it is.
Take care of those two things and I think you have taken cae of the vast majority of the problem. Incidents would be far less common and particulaly hazardous incidents extremely rare. The biggest theat then would be homebrewing.Report
Maybe if I could see what you were talking about, I could figure out how it could get into cartomizers and clearomizers (it would almost certainly require the banning of pure atomizers) and whether the topping off becomes a problem.
I basically was suggesting something that worked rather like a key and a lock. You attach the cartridge to the bottle, twist it or whatever, and that opens a port between it and the inside.
But that was just a hypothetical idea. I didn’t mean for the FDA to figure out any particular method of childproofing. I was assuming they’re just say something like ‘The industry must childproof things.’ and leave it to them. Like childproof pill bottles…I’m pretty sure it didn’t mandate how childproof caps on pills worked, just that they had to have them.
I do like the point about squirt bottles, though. As you pointed out, the stuff doesn’t actually taste very good, so if all that can be consumed is one squirt, no little kid is going to drink it past that one. So that in itself might be all the childproofing it needs, or that plus a standard ‘depress and rotate’ childproofing.
And that also would help fix another problem…people *spilling* the liquid on themselves. As is rather obvious from nicotine gum, you can take it in through the skin.
Take care of those two things and I think you have taken cae of the vast majority of the problem. Incidents would be far less common and particulaly hazardous incidents extremely rare.
Oh, let’s be honest here. If we’re talking about kids that poison themselves, this is *already* way way down the list. Yes, cases are ‘skyrocketing’…because it’s brand new and there were no cases four years ago.
60,000 children each year are rushed to the hospital because they stupidly do something that will poison them. My own brother had to have his stomach pumped when he was a kid because he ate an entire bottle of chewable vitamins…because of the iron. Iron toxicity is, in fact, the leading cause of poisoning death of children under 6.
And yet you can still buy iron supplements in non-childproof containers.
This is just an issue because people *want* there to be some issue about this. ‘Kid smoke, so kids obviously will try to drink ecigarette juice!’. It’s inventing an issue just so there is an issue.
That said, there’s no reason not to make it smaller, especially as there’s already an uphill battle because people are idiots.
The biggest theat then would be homebrewing.
Expect another issue the first time someone figures out you can put THC in there.Report