59 thoughts on “Special Tuesday questions, Nicole Richie edition

      1. She’s not my type by any means. But she was one of those rare birds who actually looked better with her clothes off than on. Also, I was 20 and the internet porn boom hadn’t yet taken hold.Report

      2. Can I tell my NatGeo story? I’m going to tell my NatGeo story.

        When I was in high school, we’d occasionally rent a house from a priest for vacation. He lived there most of the year so the house was filled with his stuff… including an impressive NatGeo collection. Being a teenage boy and stuck with my family in a house with few TV channels and no internet, I felt I needed to do SOMETHING about the matter. I grabbed a NatGeo and retreated to the basement bathroom to, um, do something. Lo and behold, what did I find? Some sort of pornographic flyer tucked into the pages! I don’t think I really understood what it was… it might have been advertising videos or escorts or toys or maybe all three. I dunno. It had boobs… better boobs than the NatGeo. It did the trick. Though it did make me wonder about that priest.Report

      3. Before the internet, distribution was a bit problematic.

        We had to rely on the “locate soggy pile of magazines, surreptitiously discarded in the woods” distribution method.

        And we blessed that furtive litterbug with all our young hearts.Report

      4. See? This is yet another area where the gays have it over us heteros: They can just look in the mirror and more or less see what they’re interested in seeing.

        Though, being a complete and utter narcissist, this particular shortcoming is of little consequence for me.Report

      5. I really can’t speak with any expertise on this but were I a betting man, I’d bet that this falls into the whole “you can’t tickle yourself” exception for self-interaction.

        And I find it less appalling to theorize about this openly than to say something like “dude, clear this up for us” to those who might be able to. It seems unseemly, somehow.Report

      6. Well, I like myself now in the mirror. In fact, I have commented in passing that I would date myself, if I happened upon other-me in a bar.

        Of course, given how shy I am, and how shy other-me would likely be, we’d never actually speak. Instead, there would be that cautious glance, briefly exchanged, the hints of a smile — but not too much! don’t take the chance! — the little “oh look a girl-like-me I wonder if she’s a dyke-like-me?” moment.

        But the night would draw on; drinks would be emptied; we would dance, but never near the other; then two cab rides alone.Report

      7. Speaking for myself, @jaybird ‘s got it right on this one.

        So imagine, you men who were boys finding the magazines discarded in the woods, my despair at trying to find something remotely gay in those hard-won (!) straight magazines. Sometimes the more raunchy ones would have ads for gay movies in the back. My porn was a tiny ad I squinted at the back of your magazine. 😉Report

      1. Now I am wondering if the famously surly Reed and the famously…enthusiastic Roth ever interacted. That must have been entertaining.Report

      1. Tom Selleck is one of the celebrities I’ve seen in the wild. He was in the line behind us to see Cyrano de Bergerac (the French subtitled/Gerard version) in 1990(?) in Santa Monica.

        Dude’s tall.Report

  1. No.

    In fact, I actively disdain the current celebrity culture, perhaps partly because I miss what celebrity culture used to be. Growing up in the ’90s I devoured any TV shows, movies, books, etc. on my favorite musicians, writers, directors, actors, etc.

    There was a point when you could turn on MTV and see a band talking about the making of their album. That gave way to a pop star talking about the cars in his garage. And now it’s just non-interesting people milking the fifteen minutes they get for getting knocked up at 16 or their willingness to participate in some scripted reality show.

    I know this sounds hopelessly quaint, but when the likes of Paris Hilton or Kim Kardashian are mentioned, I cannot help but ask. “what do they do?”Report

    1. I can tell you what they didn’t do:
      Skip town with their 15 year old daughter to pan for gold in the Sierra Nevadas.
      (That bloke is up $750,000…)Report

      1. I am sure that Kim Kardashian works very hard… at selling Kim Kardashian. Great for her. And great for the people who buy whatever it is that she is selling. That doesn’t change the fact that Kardashian’s celebrity is grounded in celebrity and not any particular artistic or entertainment skill.Report

      2. Yeah, whatever Kardashian’s other flaws may be, she is not physically unattractive. Genetic lottery won in that respect. I even Googled “without makeup”, and assuming she had a nice personality, I wouldn’t say no.

        But bear in mind I know next to nothing about her. Reading wiki, I guess she broke into the public eye by being friends with Hilton and “accidentally” having a sex tape leak? So she actually sort of DID use porn as a stepping stone to a mainstream entertainment career. Interesting.Report

      3. Nor is she so exceptionally attractive that she’d have been discovered by a talent scout. Her outstanding talent is for self-promotion, like Camille Paglia without the additional gift of being able to seem intelligent.Report

      4. Also, I have no idea how intelligent Kim is, but her father was an incredibly successful lawyer, and get mom (who is also beautiful) is a public relations genius, so if even a little bit of their brains got into Kim’s genes, she’s probably no idiot.

        Also, Kanye is awesome, so she has that going for her.Report

  2. This is an April Fool’s joke, right?

    We still lived in L.A. the last time Paris made big news for flashing her pubes while driving drunk. It was a huge story on the local news when she landed in jail.

    I miss Paris about as much as I miss Los Angeles.Report

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