The Independent Illusion
Greg Sargent published an interesting report yesterday from Colorado, where he’s been doing some old fashioned journamalism by talking to undecided voters in the Denver area. Greg writes that his findings should give both candidates pause, but take a look at what these prospective voters are actually saying and tell me they don’t sound like they’ll ultimately opt for four more years:
Jeff, an independent who works at a foundation in Denver but lives in outlying Wheat Ridge, voted for Obama last time but now says he’s undecided and is leaning marginally towards Romney. He sounded a refrain I heard often: “I think he did the best he could. It was a tough position to be in. I think anybody would have had great difficulty.”
Jeff is fully aware of Romney’s arguments — his pledge to get the economy going through tax cuts and deregulation — but doesn’t buy them yet. “It’s been tried before, and failed,” he said. “There’s no fresh approach from Romney that I see.” It’s because Jeff doesn’t believe that Romney could do better on the economy that Obama’s one term of experience remains a reason to vote for him again — it’s “on the job training” that Romney lacks. But Jeff thinks things have stagnated and he could vote for Romney: “I can be swayed either way.”
Sue, a personal trainer and Democrat from Lakewood who voted for Obama last time, is exactly the sort he needs again — yet she remains undecided. She repeatedly claimed Obama had inherited a terrible situation. “It takes a lot more time than four years to turn a big ship,” she said. “There were a lot of big issues he needed to deal with.”
Sue, too, was conversent in Romney’s arguments about the economy, but didn’t believe them. “I don’t beleve [sic] he has a magic lamp, where he can make a wish and it just happens,” she said. And yet she said her own personal situation had not improved, and that she was fully open to voting for Romney if he gave her a good reason to.
Another independent from Wheat Ridge professed himself “disappointed” in Obama and said he was seriously considering Romney. But of Obama, he added: “He was doomed from the start.” […]
Another independent from the area, a computer consultant, voted for Obama last time, likes his prescriptions for the future and agrees more spending would juice the economy. But this isn’t enough to lock him down, and he wants to see what Romney has to offer: “As an independent that’s what I want to see — a choice.”
The last example — the computer consultant — strikes me as most representative overall. Like most of the others, he buys into the framing the Obama campaign would prefer, that the President inherited a nightmarish state of affairs upon assuming office, has done the best he could reasonably be expected to do, and has a better plan for the future than his Republican opponent. While this voter doesn’t explicitly reject the GOP formula for kickstarting the economy, his agreement with the Administration, that increased spending is the way out of the morass, should near-inevitably lead him to eventually side with Obama.
The only reason the computer consultant gives for not yet perceiving himself as an Obama voter is his desire to maintain his natural independence. There’s no policy recommendation he’s hoping to see from Romney or the President; his noncommittal is stylistic, not substantive. If we disregard his and the other voters’ claims to be up-for-grabs and instead look at their estimation of Romney’s agenda, which is on the whole quite negative — “It’s been tried before, and failed”; “no magic lamp, where [Romney] can make a wish and it just happens” — there’s little reason to believe that Obama won’t persuade them to vote Democratic.
More than a picture of toss-up votes, what I think Sargent’s article illustrates is the flimsy and ever-diminishing reality of the truly independent Independent. Pundit discourse tends to treat this chunk of voters — today the largest self-identified bloc in American politics — as if they were relatively homogeneous, each one as likely to vote for either party as the other. In truth, however, independents are much more ideological than you’d think. Most independents, when pushed, will say they “lean” towards one Party over the other. If we factor in this leaning, the differences between self-identified partisans and independents are marginal at best:
[In 2008] 87% of [“leaning” independent] voted for the candidate of the party they leaned toward: 91% of independent Democrats voted for Barack Obama while 82% of independent Republicans voted for John McCain. That 87% rate of loyalty was identical to the 87% loyalty rate of weak party identifiers and exceeded only by the 96% loyalty rate of strong party identifiers.
I’ve got a pretty good example of one of these kinds of leaning-independents: Me! In some ways, I’m hardly representative of all independents (most of us aren’t bloggers) but in my “leaning” being determinative of my vote nearly 100 percent of the time, I’m what you’d expect. And if research and experience is any guide, the independents Sargent spoke with in Colorado are no different. Maybe we value our intellectual autonomy more than others, maybe we don’t want to be inundated with mail from whichever Party we lean towards; or maybe we’re starved for attention.
Whatever the reason, don’t listen to us when we tell you we could go either way. Nine times out of 10, we won’t.
I think a good chunk of this is structural, though, Elias.
At the end of the day, you’re stuck between A or B (or, “throwing your vote away”). The fact that A is pretty far from your actual preferences doesn’t matter if B is always farther away.
That doesn’t make you a “true” or “untrue” independent, though.Report
At the end of the day, you’re stuck between A or B (or, “throwing your vote away”).
Grrr. You’re not helping.Report
You’ll note the “”.
I vote my actual preferences. I live in California, so largely my vote is irrelevant to the actual outcome, so voting my preferences at least serves as a signaling device.
Also, I bitch at my Congresscritters often.Report
I purposely vote Republican for my congressional district because I’m not a fan of Danny Davis, although he probably votes the way I want him to.Report
Your vote is irrelevant to the actual outcome no matter where you live. Voting is a form of entertainment.Report
If you actually want to end 2 party supremacy you might try agitating for alternatives to first past the post rather than growling at people who accurately describe the results it provides.Report
I think James is fairly on the board with getting rid of first past the post, for the record.Report
Honestly for the Presidential election it will probably only make a difference on the margin. You can only give the job to one person at the end of the day.
Congress and the Senate are a different story of course.Report
I vote republican when I can. But I don’t bother with the sophistry that I’m an independent. It’s nothing to apologize for, being a yellow dog Democrat. It’s not saying that you aren’t independent — it’s just a more understandable, less wishy-washy way of saying where you stand.Report
I agree. This is why the actual independents who will sway aren election are often independent because they actually just don’t know who to vote for. And that small sliver that’s actually up for grabs, well who even knows what will eventually push them into on side of the river or the other, so might as well spend billions throwing the whole kitchen sink at them.
On another note, this is why I don’t care for “actual reporting” in most cases. Investigative journalism is one thing, because there is a specific story, and you’re trying to find out what it is, but when talking about trends or aggregate phenomenon (e.g. the economy, the war, the election) reporting is almost always meaningless, or at least uninterpretable, since it’s never representative and 100% anecdotal.Report
And couldn’t he find any taxi drivers to talk to?Report
Don’t be silly. Cabs are driven by immigrants, not voters.Report
I was just in NYC, and I would used ‘aimed’ rather than ‘driven.’Report
This subthread is why I’m proud to be a LOoGer, though I’m not sure it’s what Erik had in mind.Report
This sounds exactly right to me. The vast majority of true independents are – according to almost every study I’ve ever seen – just totally uninformed. And they definitely don’t vote for sensible ideological reasons.Report
Anyone who still hasn’t made up their mind between Democrats and Republicans at this point either probably has political views that are orthogonal to the American left-right spectrum (in which case they’re probably voting 3rd party or staying home), or is paying no attention to politics.Report
most of the undecideds are “paying no attention”. which is not to say they aren’t leaning.Report
Or muddled. The person that leans culturally conservative but economically liberal (or vice versa).Report
That’s what I had in mind with “has political views that are orthogonal to the American left-right spectrum”.Report
Obama is capable of moving independents through little more than releasing oil from the strategic reserve. (By the way: look for Obama to release oil from the strategic reserve.)Report
“look for Obama to release oil from the strategic reserve”
I plan to start employing this as a euphemism, much like ‘dropping the kids off at the pool’ or ‘seeing a man about a horse’.Report
you betting on that?Report
TWENTY BUCKS, BABY!!! (slaps it on the table)Report
I think the commissions would hardly make that a good economic proposition.Report
It wouldn’t surprise me…what would be the political downside?Report
Remember when this President said he wanted to combat climate change? Oh, those were the days.Report
Targeted assassination of climate change.Report
due to decreasing economic activityReport
Wait, are we ripping on Obama for things we’re imagining he’s going to do again?Report
Swaying independents is largely a factor of getting them to care enough to go to the polls.Report
Hey, me too! I’m not independent because I’m persuadable by either side. I’m independent because I don’t like the Democratic Party and don’t want to be a part of it. There are virtually no circumstances under which I would ever vote for a Republican, so the real upshot of my independence is a difference between “vote for the Democrat” or “vote for a third party/stay home”.Report
Or, as James would put it, throw away my vote. 😛Report
I doubt that these voters will be persuaded by the “Obama is a devil!” sort of appeal being made by the GOP and its stand-ins because they clearly have no fear or malice directed to Obama. But that doesn’t mean that they can’t be persuaded with a softer sort of appeal, like “Romney is more likely to balance the budget — or at least shrink the deficit — than Obama,” or “My house is more likely to increase in resale value if Romney is in charge of how banks are regulated.”Report
Indeedy. That’s what I thought Romney would to when he picked Ryan: focus on the nuts and bolts of GOP policies and conservative values and all that, sell them to the public as a Better Alternative, ridicule Obama’s insistence on defending the indefensible. But instead, he’s got Ryan awkwardly renouncing his own Plan, which was the GOP Road to Prosperity, which was the cornerstone of the conservative Party Platform…
I don’t think Romney can persuade people that his policies will lead to better outcomes while simultaneously carving off and rejecting the very heart of the GOP’s economic policy.Report
Tangentially related, what I don’t get is the mini-boomlet in the meme that ‘Biden is so awful, Obama is thinking of replacing him with Hillary’. I fail to see how that either fires up the base or persuades ‘independents’ of either persuasion.
(I sort of see of how that helps Ed Klein sells books, but I don’t see how that helps, for example, Hannity, who did almost an hour on this today with Klein, either push his agenda or pad his bottom line ratings)Report
There is no way. Hillary wouldn’t do it for one thing.Report
Doesn’t independent strictly just mean that you haven’t actually signed up as a member of a political party? I’m an independent. It means absolutely nothing about my voting patterns.
I’m not sure if it’s people in the MSM who use the term when talking about polls or people who read them doing so who freight the term with so much more meaning, but we ought to just stop. Swing voters is what we mean here, that and ticket-splitters (and I imagine the overlap is pretty strong, though I’m sure some people vote straight-party on election and the straight-party the other way the next, and others always vote for the same party for the same offices every year, and those are different for different offices, but I don’t think that’s a very big slice of the electorate, and anyway we can just through them all together under ‘swing voters,’ I think, cuz I think the latter category – nonswinging ticket-splitters is pertty rare indeed).
Given the normative importance given to the votes of “Independents” by elite political analysts with agendas, it’s legitimate to be frustrated by the fact that the term ends up representing a bunch of people who aren’t recognizably different from party members in ther voting pattern. But that’s not those people’s problem – they’re still (really!) independents if they’re not party members! (Really!) The prblem is our inflated understanding of the importance of that fact. The important question is what swing voters and, just as much occasional voters do. Many people call themselves independents (legitimately!) who in fact vote almost always for one party. My intuition is that many fewer go so far as to call themselves wing voters, because it puts such a fine point on whether you do, in fact, swi-iiing, baby!
So an (actually) modest proposal for League discussion of the election: when we mean to be talking about swing voters, or persuadables, or legitimately potential but not necessarily certain-to-be voters, let’s call them that, and let the reliably party-loyal independents be what they quite legitimately and fairly are: reliably party-loyal independents.Report