The Retroactive Table of Contents : February 10 – February 17
Headline of the Week: Turns Out the South Really Is Bats**t Crazy
In separate posts, Mark and Pat reported respectively on a school district in North Carolina forcing McNuggets on children and a law in Virginia dictating that doctors were legally required to stick a camera inside a woman’s hoo-hoo before allowing a first trimester abortion. Each had discovered what looked to be evidence that the story was bogus, yet each ended up being shockingly true. Nice going, North Carolina and Virginia.
(And may I add a personal kudos to both for correcting their posts. Very un-intertubes of them.)
New Bright Shiny Object of the Week: When Religious Beliefs and Women’s Rights Collide!
The big story of the week on the League and elsewhere was the politicking between the right and left stemming from Obama’s attempt at contraception compromise.
Burt kicked it off by looking at the mess through the eyes of the Constitution, initially declaring the compromise illegal; after further debate, though, he walked that back a bit.
Will started off on the fence but used arguments here and elsewhere to find in favor of compromise. He then considered the issue of access as it pertains to controversial women’s healthcare issues.
Erik pointed out that despite what some might say, contraception is in fact connected to a woman’s actual health, and pointed us to a poll by Leaguer Jack Gillis which for me at least was a fine antidote to all of the vitriol.
Tom used Pew polling numbers to argue that none of it ain’t no thing.
Old Bright Shiny Object of the Week: “You Call That Art? My Kid Could Have Done That!”
Last week’s ongoing discussion on art continued, eventually morphing into a discussion on arts and politics.
For Tom & Mrs. TVD, judging art is similar to judging a diving competition.
David had a great essay about the difficulty of being an artist and stepping in front of an audience that is closer to your subject matter than you are, and what it means to be an artist and choose to step away from your medium.
Riffing off of an American Times post by Erik, J.L. asked if there was any such thing as conservative art.
I said that there was, but that conservatives refuse to embrace it.
Pat went one step further and suggested that much of what I had to say about conservative vs. liberal art could be said for people and their politics.
In her very front page posting (yay!), Rose looked at reactions to Downtown Abbey and suggested that art doesn’t need to correspond to our worldview to be meaningful. (It was a great point, but I still refuse to see Atlas Shrugged II.)
Rufus, meanwhile, did us all one better and wrote a post that combined the high art of Zola and the pulpy low art of noire femme fatales.
Philosophy, Economics & Government
Tim asked those that claim positive rights to explain themselves.
Nob asks us to look at austerity economics in Europe. (Quick! Before it all collapses!) He also looked at incentives for financial markets, and how they may not be incentivizing all the right things.
Murali had a President’s Day Week Sale, where you could buy three posts – Nozick, Rebellion Ethics and Liberalism – for the price of one.
Culture, Personal Essay & Miscellaneous
Eric happily noted that cutting-edge behemoth Forbes has finally entered the 21st century with its new comments section.
David’s coolest midlife crisis ever reached yet another milestone.
Mike introduced us to a pothead that could totally kick your ass.
Erik wondered what the hell James Poulos was thinking when we asked what women are for.
Jason pointed us toward some clarification restating more thorough explanation walking back on that very topic.
Burt took a look at the bizarre week that was, and suggested we all chill. How should we chill, you say? Burt’s glad you asked. He lists a number of awesomely fun activities you can do when in Vegas at League Fest 2012.
You should really go.
This is a real service and value added to the site, Tod. Thanks!Report
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Thanks for all your hard work.Report
Is there a roster for this? i.e. how do we know who is going to do this next week?Report
Not really. I thought at least for now, I would just put out a call for Fridays where my schedule will not allow me to do it.Report
Tod it is almost more fun to read your synopses than the originals!Report
“This is a real service and value added to the site, Tod. Thanks!”
Yes, especially when providing the service he denigrates and insults an entire region without justification. If what he got out of the two posts he referenced in the beginning is that the south is batshit crazy, then I’d say the service he rendered is not so great.Report
Chill, Mike. Nothing in these recaps is meant to be taken that seriously.
Similarly, FWIW, Eurpoe is not about to disappear and David is not having a midlife crisis.
(I do, however, mean to skip Atlas Shrugged II.)Report
Oh, I see, then you are batshit crazy and homophobic. No problem.Report
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“???” — Oh, I was just recapping — so, you and your friends are also misogynists? Thanks alot, LoOG!Report
I obviously cut, which was not my intention. My bad.
Apologies.Report
LOL, it’s not personal. You can’t get off that easy. My little feeling weren’t hurt, so your apology is not accepted and is deemed a dodge to avoid admitting you are a racist.Report
That’s a re-cap, by the way, so don’t take it too seriously.Report
Aaaaaaand now we’re done.
Have a great weekend, Mike.Report
Aaaaaaa, Tod, what did it? The R word. Now you can defend you prejudice because I used the R word? You’re reaction is pathetic. This is so typical of Leftist weaseling. You can dish out the “humor” but you can’t take it.Report
I’m sorry, was it humor? If so, than I’ll stick around. I mistook it for hostility.Report
hostility? No, look, let me explain. A handful of legislators in VA and NC do something stupid, so you call the entire south batshit crazy, then justify it because I can’t take recaps seriously, so I recap and call you homophobic, misogynist and racist, for no good reason, like you have no good reason to call the entire south batshit crazy, but you can’t take it seriously, because, like you, I was recapping.
See? Now that’s some funny shit in my book, but when you’re on the receiving end, it can seem uncalled for. If I really thought that you thought that I think you are a racist, homophobe and misogynist, I would bend over backwards apologizing with no conditions. I’d say I’m wrong and there’s no excuse for calling people such names when there’s no good reason. But the reason for my namecalling was to teach a lesson about such prejudice and stupid conclusions. I did it with humor. I’m not mad. I just thought it was a stupid, prejudiced thing to write, and you should just admit it and learn from it, unless you really believe the south is batshit crazy. In that case, I respect your belief, but disagree wholeheartedly. The south is a diverse region which is coming on strong, and, in about 25 years, the South will be the major US region for economic growth along with propagation of art and social change.Report
Also, to help with the learning process, there’s a tendency among partisans (it’s common to practically all groupists) to find anyway possible to win an argument and not show weakness, therefore, when they are losing an argument or say something that can’t be defended, they look for a way out, like taking the “racist” comment out of context to display as a hot word that will obscure the original indefensible, prejudiced comment, and therefore give you a way out without having to admit you are wrong, with no qualifications, just wrong — not an apology about hurting my feelings (making me look emotional, over-sensitive and a little unreasonable), but wrong about the prejudiced statement against smart, educated, good and decent people in the South. I would understand it as a joke during the recap if it wasn’t such a common belief among the Left outside of the South. For you to even associate the two cases with the intelligence level or rational capacities of those in the South show that you’re prejudiced. This is something you can re-assess and perhaps learn from, if you stop justifying it and quit attempting to deflect criticism.Report
Dude, I already agreed it was a “my bad” on my part. But I’ll say it again.
No need to have gone there, shouldn’t have gone there, will try to learn from it.Report
Mike, I can darn near see ol’ Morgan and his cavalry riding down the Hanoverton Road…look away Dixieland!!!!!!Report
Robert,
It’s more like a defense of all people from certain parts of the country from prejudice and hate-speech propagated by homophobes, misogynists and climate change deniers. It’s an Obama-like focus on fairness.Report
I would have you pegged as someone who would regard both of those bits of news as hugely statist, overreaching, and crazy.Report
Patrick,
I do, but can you extrapolate from that that the south is batshit crazy? Holy crap, batman, have you all gone mad on Penguin venom?Report
If you think the legislation (at least in the VA case) is crazy, and it’s passing with majority support in the legislature (who presumably represent something regarding the general public) and it’s being signed by the governor, then it seems not entirely unreasonable to say that a majority of Virginians support something that is crazy.
Yes, I realize that “Virginia” != “all of the south”. On the other hand, I don’t think Tod was actually expressing an ironclad belief that all of the south is as crazy as Virginia.
If anything, I would expect you to say something along the lines of, “this is all because the Statists in both parties have convinced normal Americans that Statism is the new normal”, or something.
Not, “Tod, you’re a racist!”
(P.S. -> if ’twere he to be bigoted against the south, that doesn’t make him a “racist”, so if you’re saying “overgeneralization ought to be called out!” you’re making your point in an odd way.)Report
Patrick, first get a sense of humor, then realize that the actual number of people who actually voted for the representatives involved is minimal, then realize that representatives vote on shit all the time that the majority doesn’t support, then get a grip — what the hell are you trying to justify? That it’s alright to call the south, which is a bigass, diverse area in the US, batshit crazy because a handful of legislators in a statist regime do something stupid?Report
first get a sense of humor
(laffin) Dude, what makes you think I’m not laughing at this?
then realize that representatives vote on shit all the time that the majority doesn’t support
Sure.
How much support does this law have? According to this, a majority. Do you agree with this Planned Parenthood representative that this poll is not sufficient? I’m not going to claim outright that a majority of Virginians support this law, but there is at least evidence to support that position and nothing (I’ve found so far, anyway) to support a conclusion to the contrary. More here.
States that have these laws with a mandatory requirement:
Alabama, Arizona, Florida, Kansas, Louisiana, Mississippi, North Carolina, Oklahoma, Texas.
States with non-mandatory ultrasound laws?
Arkansas, Georgia, Indiana, Idaho, Michigan, Missouri, Nebraska, North Dakota, Ohio, South Dakota, South Carolina, Utah, West Virginia.
I don’t see Tennessee or Kentucky on either list, not sure if you’d call them “Southern” or not. Admittedly, there are non-Southern states also on the list. The northeast, northwest, and southwest are notably underrepresented.
Not that those states don’t do goofy stuff, either.Report
Am I to understand that all of these states have the same transvaginal ultrasound requirement as Virginia? Any idea why it’s Virginia taking this step that got all the publicity?Report
1) virginia’s near the beltway. maybe some people are looking at their daughters.
2) Virginia is trending out of the south, demographically speaking. This spells Culture War in a big way… (and Virginia’s legislature is swung right as of the moment. may swing back this year).
It says more to me who isn’t on these lists, than who is. Also, that SD has non-mandatory…
The NW not being on here is a STRONG indication that liberals care more about this issue than conservatives.Report
Assuming Pat’s data is correct (and I have no reason to think that it isn’t), there may not be any reason other than “slow news day” and/or “the time was right for this to catch fire.”Report