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I wanted to write a follow up to Mr. Ridgely’s post about meaning of terms as it relates to the Christian Nation controversy. When I first began this inquiry about seven years ago, I assumed — wrongly — that most America’s Founders were strict deists and would not have considered themselves Christians.
I found out they were more theistic and many of these “deists” — notably Thomas Jefferson — thought of themselves as “Christians” in some sense. But also that many rejected (either explicitly or implicitly with their silence) orthodox Trinitarian minimums that CS Lewis would say make up “mere Christianity.” Therefore, they weren’t “Christians.”
I used that as the normative definition of “Christianity” while not being much of a believer myself because it helped refute the “Christian America” thesis.
I began to rethink whether I, as a non-believer, should be personally terming someone not a Christian when they called themselves one, after a number of dialogs with interlocutors. One of them was Eric Alan Isaacson a prominent attorney and Unitarian-Universalist. He wrote to me:
Hi Jonathan,
I’m troubled by those who insist that only people who believe in one way can be “true Christians.” If Mormons consider themselves followers of Jesus, that’s good enough for me to regard them as Christians. If Trinitarian Evangelicals regard themselves as followers of Jesus, I’ll consider them Christians too — even though, so far as I can tell, Jesus never claimed to be God.
If someone like John Adams and Thomas Jefferson and the Rev. Dr. Joseph Priestley honored Jesus and endeavored to follow his teachings, they should not be denied the name “Christian” merely because others who claim that name have embraced any number of extra-biblical doctrines.
I’ve heard Catholics occasionally say that theirs is the only “true church,” suggesting perhaps that Protestants are not truly Christians. I’ve heard Protestant preachers denounce the Pope as the Anti-Christ, insisting that Catholics can’t be true Christians because they follow the Pope rather than Christ.
I must confess, such attitudes offend my sensibilities.
And yet, I find you, an open-minded and liberal chap, adopting the same stance, and suggesting that Unitarians and Mormons can’t be Christians.
I am reminded, quite frankly, of how New Hampshire’s Supreme Court ruled in 1868 the Dover, New Hampshire, First Unitarian Society of Christians’ chosen minister — the Rev. Francis Ellingwood Abbot — was insufficiently “Christian” to serve the Congregation that had called him. Justice Jonathan Everett Sargent’s opinion for the court quoted passages from Abbot’s sermons, to show that the minister was too open-minded to serve his congregation.
The Rev. Abbot, after all, had once preached:
“Whoever has been so fired in his own spirit by the overwhelming thought of the Divine Being as to kindle the flames in the hearts of his fellow men, whether Confucius, or Zoroaster, or Moses, or Jesus, or Mohammed, has proved himself to be a prophet of the living God; and thus every great historic religion dates from a genuine inspiration by the Eternal Spirit.”
In another sermon, Rev. Abbot even declared:
“America is every whit as sacred as Judea. God is as near to you and to me, as ever he was to Moses, to Jesus, or to Paul. Wherever a human soul is born into the love of truth and high virtue, there is the ‘Holy Land.’ Wherever a human soul has uttered its sincere and brave faith in the Divine, and thus bequeathed to us the legacy of inspired words, there is the ‘Holy Bible.’”
“If Protestantism would include Mr. Abbot in this case,” Justice Sargent opined for New Hampshire’s highest court, “it would of course include Thomas Jefferson, and by the same rule also Thomas Paine, whom Gov. Plumer of New Hampshire called ‘that outrageous blasphemer,’ that ‘infamous blasphemer,’ ‘that miscreant Paine,’ whose ‘Age of Reason’ Plumer had read ‘with unqualified disapprobation of its tone and temper, its course vulgarity, and its unfair appeals to the passions and prejudices of his readers.’”
Hale v. Everett, 53 N.H. 9, 16 Am. Rep. 82, 1868 N.H. LEXIS 47 (1868). See Charles B. Kinney, Jr., Church & State: The Struggle for Separation in New Hampshire, 1630-1900 113 (New York: Teachers College, Columbia Univ., 1955) (“One of the more celebrated cases in New Hampshire jurisprudence is that of Hale versus Everett.”); Carl H. Esbeck, Dissent and Disestablishment: The Church-State Settlement in the Early American Republic, 2004 B.Y.U. L. Rev. 1385, 1534 n.541 (“As late as 1868, the state supreme court decided that a Unitarian minister would not be allowed to use the town meeting house because of his heterodoxy, and in spite of being called and settled by a majority of the community.”).
You might suppose that being run out of the pulpit would sour the Rev. Abbot in his attitudes toward those who thought themselves more orthodox than he was. You would be wrong. Abbot went on to edit The Index, and on his retirement from that position in 1880 addressed those who gathered in his honor: “I know we are here Unitarians and Non-Unitarians, and I rejoice to stand with Christians, with Catholic and Protestant Christians alike, for justice and purity; and I will always do so. These things are more important than our little differences of theological opinion.” Farewell Dinner to Francis Ellingwood Abbot, on Retiring from the Editorship of “The Index” 14 (Boston: George H. Ellis, 1880) (remarks of Rev. Abbot, June 24, 1880).
It may be noted that Frederick Douglass praised Rev. Abbot for doing “much to break the fetters of religious superstition, for which he is entitled to gratitude.” Farewell Dinner, supra, at p. 48 (letter of June 15, 1880, from Frederick Douglass to the Rev. M.J. Savage).
I think it a tremendous mistake, Jonathan, for you to side with the likes of Justice Sargent, who think they are entitled to determine who can, and who cannot, be called a true “Christian.” In truth, Justice Sargent may have been somewhat more liberal in his attitudes than you are – for he and the New Hampshire Supreme Court at least accepted the notion that one can be a genuine Unitarian Christian, even as they ruled that Rev. Abbot was far too unorthodox even to preach in a Unitarian church.
Peace be with you!
Eric Alan Isaacson
So, for personal reasons, if someone calls themselves “Christian” whether they are the Pope, Pat Robertson, Fred Phelps, President Obama, Bishop Spong, a Mormon or even an atheist who considers himself “Christian,” they are one.
But not everyone views things that way. The Christian Nationalists certainly don’t. That’s why we need clarity and working definitions. We need “ifs.” For instance, pay attention to historian Paul F. Boller’s “if” when summarizing George Washington’s faith:
[I]f to believe in the divinity and resurrection of Christ and his atonement for the sins of man and to participate in the sacrament of the Lord’s Supper are requisites for the Christian faith, then Washington, on the evidence which we have examined, can hardly be considered a Christian, except in the most nominal sense.
It’s an interesting question of whether a word is defined by its use, or used depending on how it’s defined.
It’s also been apparent with the polemics of the “New Atheists” who enjoy debating those “true” Christians who don’t run away from the tenets they subscribe to upon taking up the title of “Christian.”Report
It seems to me that you are arguing with the proponents of the Christian Nation thesis, and for simplicity, you are using their own terminology, as you’ve repeatedly made clear. Nothing wrong with that.Report
Jon Rowe stated:
I’m surprised by this. Do you mind sharing your educational background and what you attribute your misperception towards.
For me the research you share has been very helpful to me, but it doesn’t supplant what I learned. Instead it fleshes out and amplifies what I’ve learned from my rural small-town public school, education at Michigan State U., and popular history books marketed towards the layman, e.g., Gordon Wood, Ron Chernow, Ralph Ketcham, Nathaniel Philbrick, Kramnick & Moore.Report
Re your blog post subject.
I think we need different standards when determining who is a Christian based primarily on context. I have no problem with a Calvinist or Catholic claiming each other or those horrid liberal Episcopalian-types are not Christians, e.g, the much reviled John Shelby Spong – whose iconoclasm is a breath of fresh air to me. As long the audience is cognizant of the religion of the advocate and the argument is framed as a debate between faith communities and not in the general public square for political purposes. It seems fair game if often dumb.
However, since none of these groups have any authority over the other I’m much repulsed when one group attempts to smear a political opponent’s fealty to Christendom based merely on their denominational or doctrinal differences. There is no arbiter of who is and is not a Christian between the competing self-identified Christian denominations. People who attempt to divide us by arguing, “he’s no true Christian” when in fact he or she most certainly are should be ridiculed and ignored. In fact I don’t think I’ve ever encountered a user of such an argument capable of providing a cogent argument on any political matter, which I conclude is why they resort to only flawed arguments.
What I find most frustrating is how the terms of Christianity change by a single advocate in order to promote a political objective. The obvious example are conservative history-deniers and revisionists who disingenuously point to the founders as Christian while reviling those very same contemporaneous types today as not being Christian. Their voting constituencies’ lack of education of both history and current events allows such false memes to grow as we encounter David Barton’s star and power growing in a way that must have D. James Kennedy rolling in his grave, “If only I’d been born a generation or two later”.
So from a political perspective, I’d humbly argue a Christian is one who defines himself as one and is a member of a Christian denomination. If they lack the latter it opens the door to comparing their behavior and rhetoric to others – always a difficult if not impossible enterprise which I would avoid while quickly conceding I’d often be wrong and perhaps hypocritical given I conclude Mr. Obgama is a Christian in spite of his unique situation causing him to currently be a member of no church.
Using this paradigm we find many people well-behaving Christians would prefer certain people not be described as Christians, Fred Phelps and Newt Gingrich come to mind. In Mr. Gingrich’s case my argument would be that if Christians didn’t want to be associated with his ilk who leverage-their Christian label while seeming to have missed all of Jesus’ admonitions on how to treat others, they should have higher and stricter enforcement that expels bad actors from being members. Mr. Gingrich is a Christian because he’s a member of the Catholic Church where his behavior is not an outlier for his socio-economic class. I perceive no good argument claiming he isn’t a Christian from the context of the public square given his position in his faith community.
Mr. Phelps is a tougher sell. I would argue he is a Christian in spite of his cult-like membership in a church he founded comprised only of his family members where I would concede that is a worthy argument he might not be a Christian. However I’d go with Christian while respecting contra arguments because the positions he holds are not that far-off from those held by social conservatives in general, and most concerning are representative of what we would expect if social conservatives political power became dominant. Conservative Christians who reject Phelps as a Christian point to a message of hate being contra to their style (“love the sinner, hate the sin”), but their end-games are mostly equivalent. I also hold the slippery-slope argument, that social conservatives dominating our discourse would not be content with merely prohibiting abortion rights and gay rights and other actively lobbied efforts, but would march on to every more draconian measures consistent with Mr. Phelps, e.g., the criminalization of being gay (part of a handful of state GOP platforms), restrictions if not prohibition on birth control (in spite of its universal use amongst this group), tougher divorce laws, etc.Report
Gordon S. Wood is not Isaac Kramnick.
“We do not, and cannot, base American constitutional jurisprudence on the historical reality of the Founding. Our constitutional jurisprudence accepts a fiction involving the Founders’ intent—it may have become a necessary legal fiction as the country’s laws have taken shape but it is a fiction nonetheless.”
Barton-Beck wouldn’t be possible without the true common misperception, that “the Founders were all deists.” The system failed somewhere.
For even if reducing religion to “ceremonial deism” is a necessary “legal fiction” in the 21st century, as Gordon Wood says, there are far too many products of our system who believe that a bland deism was actual religious landscape of the Founding.Report
I think the question is, is there anything other than Christianity for which we say, if you self-identify as X you may not in fact be X? I mean, non-trivial stuff (saying you’re 6’4″ when you’re really 5’9″ doesn’t count)? Christianity sure gets a lot of privileges in our discourse even when we pretend it doesn’t.Report
If we put our heads to it, I think we could come up with a variety of things.
“Marriage” is a good one as well. SS couples in Mass. saying they are “married.” Other folks who would say, I don’t care what the law says you are not.Report
Steve S.:
That depends. Do people generally accept Bill Maher’s claim of being a libertarian?Report
Jon,
That’s quite a letter you got from Mr. Isaacson.
May I say, that when reading your posts and comments on issues regarding the religious views of our founding generation, I have never gotten the feeling that you meant to “personally term(ing) someone not a Christian when they called themselves one.” You have often been careful to credit not only the various forms and views of christianity, but also the self descriptions of those whose religious views you were examining and discussing.
But you are right that we need some clarity and working definitions, or at least an assortment of working definitions. The lack of clarity in such things is much abused.
Jim51Report
Jim,
Many thanks!Report