All troll, all the time

by · June 11, 2015

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  1. trizzlor says:
    June 12, 2015 at 12:10 am

    I bet I know what this guy thought Wolf of Wall Street was about.Report

  2. greginak says:
    June 12, 2015 at 12:18 am

    It’s clickbait. Just a loud ignorant opinion to generate buzz. It is also NY so he can get a little favorable feeling by some mafia ass kissing. Enough people there will think he is a tough guy. It is just a shame he has apparently never watched the last half of Goodfellas.Report

  3. Stillwater says:
    June 12, 2015 at 12:25 am

    I worry and wonder whether we are heading for an age where the raison d’etre for all media is to make the other side (whoever they are) mad.

    If it’s a game, how do you win it?Report

  4. Tod Kelly says:
    June 12, 2015 at 12:48 am

    “The wiseguys never have to work … which frees them up to spend the days and nights doing what guys love above all else: sitting around with the gang, busting each other’s balls”

    I’ll just step down now and hand the podium over to Dr. Freud.Report

  5. Mike Schilling says:
    June 12, 2015 at 12:58 am

    devoted above all to their brothers

    The fratricidal murders in Goodfellas run into the dozens. Wotta maroon.Report

    • greginak in reply to Mike Schilling says:
      June 12, 2015 at 1:03 am

      Bah….it was all about good natured ribbing…it was like Seinfeld with better suits and just a few more murders and treachery and paranoia and drug abuse. Just normal guy stuff.Report

      • Mike Schilling in reply to greginak says:
        June 12, 2015 at 1:13 am

        George: You’re a funny guy, Jerry.

        Seinfeld: You mean, let me understand this cause, ya know maybe it’s me, I’m a little fished up maybe, but I’m funny how, I mean funny like I’m a clown, I amuse you? I make you laugh, I’m here to fishin’ amuse you? What do you mean funny, funny how? How am I funny? (Shoots George.)Report

  6. Damon says:
    June 12, 2015 at 7:01 am

    That’s not serious troll. 2 out of 10 for trolling.

    Shesh, if you’re going to post something as trolling, post some serious stuff. I need my popcorn fix.Report

  7. Gabriel Conroy says:
    June 12, 2015 at 7:35 am

    One paradox of this off-the-cuff OP is that the act of posting it to call out click bait in fact surrenders to the article’s click-bait-ness.

    Well, I fell for it, too, and read the article. And aside from whatever the article’s offensiveness to women, I gotta say it gets the movie wrong:

    Way down deep in the reptile brain, Henry Hill (Ray Liotta), Jimmy the Gent (Robert De Niro) and Tommy (Joe Pesci) are exactly what guys want to be: lazy but powerful, deadly but funny, tough, unsentimental and devoted above all to their brothers — a small group of guys who will always have your back.

    [bold emphasis added]

    No, they don’t have your back. [spoiler alert] Mr. Hill goes against Mr. the Gent. And before that, Mr. the Gent goes against most of his other colleagues by killing them. When Tommy challenges Henry in the scene that Mike satirized above with the Seinfeld example, Henry doesn’t save the day with a one-off “Get the f?-?-?k outta here.” Tommy keeps pushing Henry just to make Henry afraid. It’s a power play. When Tommy lets up, Henry is visibly relieved.

    I saw the movie for the first time a few months ago and hated it. I hated it because I thought the movie expected me to like these people and also because I thought it was poorly executed. But the more I think on the movie, I don’t think the viewer is meant to like these people (it still might be poorly executed…I’m not going to argue that point). The main characters are violent, entitled, petty (almost banally so) criminals. One of them, Hill, is in it for the perks and the money and turns on his “friends” when it’s convenient, and he gets away scott-free at taxpayer expense. Hill is probably also a murderer. Most of the story is told through his eyes, and I don’t think the viewer has any reason to believe his account, which if I recall portrays him as someone who’s never killed even if he was an accessory a few times.

    ETA: now that I read above, I see that my point they killed off each other was already mentioned.Report

  8. Vikram Bath says:
    June 12, 2015 at 9:25 pm

    Like the others, I don’t know why you’re singling this one piece out. There is a lot of stuff out there that walks the line of clickbait to the point of being indistinguishable from trolling. Here’s an example that switches up the parties.Report

  9. zic says:
    June 13, 2015 at 8:17 am

    Funny thing, but I read that as trolling men as shallow, violent, and crude.Report

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