Wardsmith’s WTO Blanket Party
Presented as-is, promoted from his comment
Like almost all of you, I have mixed feelings about the police. As a law-abiding tax-paying citizen with property that needs protecting, I am in favor of a coercive force that keeps the “bad guys” in check. As a libertarian minded citizen, I am concerned always and everywhere with “coercive” forces. Long ago, Patrick had asked me to write about this, but the memories were a bit too painful at the time. They still are, but enough time has passed.
Back in 1999 I was in Seattle making presentations on a company I had co-founded to a few VC firms there. I had flown in for the day and intended to fly out that evening. What I had no concept in the world of (being head down focused on business issues and the presentations) was that there was this little thing called the WTO Meeting. This was Nov. 30th, 1999. After a flight that arrived early that morning and several stops at VC’s I was physically and emotionally drained. I was also completely unprepared for what greeted me when I stepped out of the building onto the downtown street around 5:00 P.M. Thousands of protesters, many wearing costumes were running around and there were perhaps hundreds of police chasing them. I stood on the street corner, (foolishly waiting for the light to turn green) gaping slack jawed at the scene in front of me. Up in the offices of the VC firm, haggling over financial projections and valuations, I had not one clue in the world that chaos was reigning right outside.
While I was standing there wearing my own costume, (that of a businessman trying to raise funds, suit, tie, polished shoes and a briefcase holding marketing collateral and my notebook computer), someone jabbed me HARD between my shoulder blades and yelled something unintelligible in the crowd noise. I thought it was a gun and I did what years of martial arts training taught my muscles to do without thought. I spun around and locked the guy’s arm while sending the “gun” (actually an L-shaped billy club) skittering to the ground. Then I realized he was a cop. I said, “What the hell did you do that for?” while bending down to pick up the club. Meanwhile, he was drawing his gun on me. Yet again, muscle memory and reflexes took over and I smacked the gun out of his hand with the club I had just picked up. Again I said (quite a bit louder this time, in case he was going deaf), “What the fuck are you doing? I’m not one of THEM!”, gesturing to the crowd on the street. Meanwhile, he was scampering for the weapon, so I put my foot on it and said, “No no no, not until you learn to behave”! Now of course, he’s on the radio screaming for assistance, assistance I am totally in favor of, since he needed a good talking to about common courtesy and proper appraisal of likely combatants. I am to this day 100% certain that not ONE protestor was dressed as I was at that moment.
Now the cop was very agitated and I knew when the other officers showed up, they would request i give him his weapon back, but I don’t want him accidentally on purpose putting bullets into me, so I demonstrate for him the proper technique of magazine strip, cartridge ejection and slide removal. Since I do competitive pistol shooting, I’m pretty adept at this, takes about 4 seconds. I hand him the base and the magazine but keep the slide assembly for good measure (I might want to inspect it later). The other officers show up (three of them) and quickly surround me. I politely let them know that the first officer had unnecessarily hit me with this baton (gesturing) and had also pulled his weapon and showed them the slide. At this point the one behind me smacked me HARD on the head with his baton. Again, reflexes before thinking and I’ve smacked him with the briefcase (which I’m holding in the same hand as the baton I took earlier) in the jaw. I don’t want to drop the briefcase (it has my computer in it!) but the two in front of me have decided to use my head for billy club target practice so I use the briefcase to fend off the blows. Now I’m not so sure about the notebook anymore so decide to play with the baton from earlier. Dropped the slide and briefcase and now use it to pretty good effect (they’re holding theirs backwards to me), I use the “L” part to hook their batons which they’re holding with the “L” part by their hands.
Now I’m no Jackie Chan and I was too old and out of shape for these games. The one behind me has decided to take a break and the two in front haven’t got their batons any more so I decide everyone is even and hold up my hands in the universal motion of surrender while dropping the baton. The first cop, who had started all this decided now was an excellent time to show me he was a star high school football player and piles into me, ruining a thousand dollar suit and $300 shoes as I slide along on my back and side on the concrete. The only thing left to do is roll into a ball while they play blanket party on me without the blanket. Very luckily for me, someone /else/ in a suit shows up, and even more fortuitously he is a detective. Never found out why he was there, I guess by now they have called out all the cops they can find. He does what none of them had done, asks me for ID, asks why I was there and then ignores their admonitions that I be charged with assaulting an officer and has a discussion with them about common courtesy and proper appraisal of likely combatants. He offers me a ride to the airport as long as I agree not to press charges. I readily agree happy to put as much distance between me and Seattle nutjobs as possible. On the flight home someone asked me what had happened and I said “the protests”. He said, “They must have thought you were with the WTO” and I said, “Yeah, right”.
Your story jibes with my parent’s description of protests in the 60s. Everyone took out ear rings because police habitually ripped them off the ears. They took off glasses because police routinely broke them. I have a picture of my dad moments after a police officer drove a billy club through his glasses into his eye. He’s pretty happy not to have been blinded.
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Curious if Ward has reconsidered how reconcilable the dueling concepts he starts this off with since those events. Interesting that basically, were it not for the rare understanding of one cop (albeit with the odd inverse bribe of the ride in exchange for not pressing charges) the others would’ve killed him.
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Cops kill with impunity every other day in this nation.
Get that through your skull.
It matters not one whit if you’re a “law-abiding citizen” or not.
There’s Team Blue, and then there’s the Bad Guys.
If you don’t have a badge, that makes you a target.
I saw a man I had known for 11 years shot to death by the police. He was the most phenomenal drummer I have ever known, and I have worked with about 20 different drummers in my time.
The police stood milling about in roughly the same spot for about twenty minutes before the pistols came out. Then they lined up a firing squad, waited about five minutes, and then shot him when he fell over backwards off of a log.
This was the lead story on the local news in Kansas City for two days running back in March of 2010. Every station carried the story for about a week-and-a-half to two weeks. And the Star was, without question, the consistently least reliable source of information.
By December of that year, I was in constant fear of my life. I went into hiding in March of 2011.
I really have no heart to go on about it now.
I just woke up a few minutes ago anyway.
But since that time, things have been better, and things have been worse. For much of Dec. 2011 through Feb. 2012, I lived my life in a constant state of panic; meaning I would snap wide-awake in a panic, and that panic would continue through every moment of the day in varying degrees, until I finally fell asleep, exhausted, in a panic.
Feb. 13 I spent over an hour-and-a half at the FBI field office in Springfield. I delivered over 200 pages of documentation at that time. Then I was old that their policy concerning witness intimidation is to let the local authorities deal with the matter– which is exactly what I’m afraid of.
Police can and do kill, and often they kill without cause.
It is a rare thing to find a jury that will convict a police officer.
Very rare.
As for our wardsmith, I’m glad he came out of it in not worse shape.
But the verbal agreement he entered into with the detective was illegal, because it was entered to under duress. You can’t waive your rights in exchange for not being assaulted.Report
You’re tellin me somethin I’ve recognized for quite awhile.Report
Some places are really bad about it, and others (or so I hear) are more trustworthy.
Better not to take the chance when it’s a life-and-death matter, the way I call it.
Just wondering:
You ever sat on a jury?Report
Hey, b-psych. I hope you realize that comment above was supposed to go to the OP. And really, the one below was supposed to go as a reply to that one.
I told you I’d just woke up.
I was hoping you had replied elsewhere, so I could think that you had figured it out by now. But you didn’t, so I felt the need to fess up.
I’ve been trying to cut down on that sort of thing, but I did it twice on one thread– a personal record.
Anyway, sorry for any misunderstanding.Report
Ward, I thought you grabbing the cop’s gun [even if only to take out the clip] was crazy. I don’t care what led up to it, if you’d have been gunned down with a police weapon in your hand, well, the joke would be on you, eh?
BTW, my office was hit by a bullet from this the other day, and another 20 slugs hit our building.
http://www.sgvtribune.com/crime/ci_20409154/family-teen-shot-killed-by-lapd-101-freeway
120 shots fired in total.
This stuff seems unimaginable, 120 shots? Wouldn’t a hundred cover it? Twenty, and then see what happens?
On the other hand there’s nothing in the cop’s contract with society to die. Better fired than dead, and anybody who would perform the job differently—or expect anybody else to—is not living in reality.
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if you’d have been gunned down with a police weapon in your hand, well, the joke would be on you, eh?
If he’d been gunned down, he’d already aknown who the joke was on, eh?Report
With the switch from .38 to 9mm, the training changed to “unload on the center of mass”.Report
Here’s some good news.
I just saw this on PACER, in a document filed 4/16/12:
8. The parties anticipate it may be appropriate to seek issuance of a protective order with regard to anticipated discovery in this case. In accordance with Local Rule 16.1(f)(7), any party who anticipates requesting a protective order shall serve on every other party a proposed protective order and proposed stipulation for its entry no later than the date of serving initial disclosures required in Fed. R. Civ. p. 26(a)(1), or shall state the cause within any motion for protective order filed with the Court.
I hope to God that’s me they’re talking about there.
Because over this past week, I’ve been working on a little writing project called:
Motion to Excuse Witness from Appearing, Testifying,
and Otherwise Participating in Official Proceedings
Due to Incredible Amount of
Tampering with a Federal Witness under Color of Law
which Has Already Occurred
Might as well ask the judge if it’s ok if we knock it off with the witness intimidation, because I think I understand the local authorities position on the matter just fine.Report
Yeowtch.Report
I would’ve found this story more believable if you’d said, “When the fifth cop showed up, I gave him the Vulcan neck pinch. I’m no Spock, but after three years on the Enterprise, I had learned a thing or two. After destroying Robocop, Shaft and Serpico cam along and told me how awesome I had been, and they gave me a lift to the moon.”Report
I’m with Kris. I have some experience with resisting cops. The normal drill goes something like 1) Resist cop, or even speak wise 2) Be beaten into jelly by all of his cop friends. And the ones I know get plumb “hasty” if they are disarmed. Maybe the Seattle police are all Ghandis, but this would be a ticket to the morgue in my area.
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I had no intention nor idea this comment would.be “promoted” to front page status. If I’d ben asked I would have said no.
Just to be clear I did not “win”. I got my ass kicked. Unlike a lot of people that day who were looking for trouble, I most certainly was not.Report
I apologise for FP-ing this story. Whatever anyone else may say of it, many of us believe it’s a tale well worth telling. It rings true to life. Pay no attention to these ass-biters. In life, it is a question of making the right enemies.Report
I guess those cops broke the unwritten social contract ? Guys in $1000 suits and $300 suits are supposed to be immune from police brutality right. How dare they attack you when they could have been beating up all those hippies.Report
Because, atheist god knows, the problem is not with police brutality against people who don’t deserve it but because there isn’t *ENOUGH* police brutality against people who don’t deserve it.Report
Really, this strikes me as exposing the weakness in whole libertarian gig on a pragmatic basis, and of “small government” arguments generally.
These rely on effective oversight.
There are way too many ways that we just don’t have that.
I’ve made a complaint to Internal Affairs against a police officer before. That is practically worthless. IS is all about CYA. They are there to find no wrong-doing.
Likewise, in far too many cases, the courts act as if they are there for the purpose of protecting shoddy police work rather than protecting the rights of citizens.
And it is a damned sad thing for me to see when ward could come forward to tell his story of what happened to him over ten years ago and people would put it up for review on the believability meter as if they’re watching John Carter. Get real.
As stated in my motion (sorry, fellas, but I have no intention of remaining silent about the matter– speaking up is the best line of defense that I have), which I hope to have filed in the US District Court of Western Missouri by this time next week:
It is important to this witness that the integrity of the Court and of its proceedings should be protected. This witness is of the understanding that it is the role of the Courts to defend the rights of ordinary citizens from encroachment by the State. This witness is well aware that it is only through grave threat to his life and liberty that he would make the statements to the Court contained in this Motion, although he does so reluctantly and only as a last resort.
WHEREFORE, this Witness, having filed his Motion with this Court, prays that the Court give full and thoughtful consideration to all of the matters described therein; that all manner of remedy, whether injunctive, declaratory, or otherwise available, be considered as this Court should deem appropriate; that the personal safety of the witnesses of this Court should be strictly observed according to applicable statute, that the integrity of the testimony given should be preserved; that the incredible amount of tampering with a federal witness under color of law which has already occurred should be held to be fully sufficient, and that no further witness intimidation need occur; that no one should live their life in fear or have cause to flee from their home for having been called as a witness in a federal matter.Report
I have 2 problems with this line of reasoning:
1) It seems to me that the more government does, the more oversight is needed.
2) In many ways reducing the scope of government would make oversight easier.
I should probably write a full post to elaborate, maybe later this week.Report
That should be interesting.
Looking forward to it.
Very good points.Report