Leaguefest: Let’s Talk About What’s Really Important
A reminder: Leaguefest 2012 will be at the LVH Hotel (formerly the Las Vegas Hilton) on Memorial Day weekend, May 25-28, 2012. To make your reservations, call (800) 635-7711 and advise that you are registering for “The League of Ordinary Gentlemen.” Our group reservations code “SGGCM2″. You should get a deluxe room for $79 a night, a very decent deal for a holiday weekend. Please make your reservation by April 25, 2012.
As of today, I’m expecting at least nine front-pagers, with spouses, one couple of which are both FP’ers. So turnout is good and if you do come, you can be confident of meeting and mingling with lots of people you only know as names on the internet as well as getting a good deal on a room for a fun weekend.
After the jump, a word about dinner at the steakhouse.
Why the steakhouse? When the subject last came up there was no consensus but the plurality’s choice was steak. Plus, when I did reconnaissance, that’s where I ate and I liked it. So I made an executive decision. If you really had your heart set on Benihana or the Chinese place, I’m pretty sure Mrs. Likko and I will be happy to join you there on Friday or Sunday night.
The LVH’s restaurant department (all four restaurants are jointly managed) wants me to set aside a slot for about twenty people, banquet-style. They also want a significant deposit on my credit card to make the reservation. I can’t do this as of right now (I bought my house back before the market finished crashing and I’ve got a mortgage to pay.) And, I really need a full head count before I can make the attempt. So I’m holding off on making the reservation until we can get a confirmed head count.
As of right now, we’ve got confirmations or very close to confirmations from eight couples and one single (I think), which is beyond the reasonable limits of just making a reservation for a group dinner upon arrival. (See comments section for the confirmed attendees list.)
The banquet menu is limited from the regular menu, of course. Kind of has to be for a big dinner like that. They offer three tiers of platings, which will range from $65-$75 per plate (that comes to $83.27 to $96.08 after tax and tip, but does not include drinks). The low-end dinner starts with a salad. The mid-range dinner starts with your choice of salad or lobster bisque. The high-end dinner starts with a seafood platter appetizer and your choice of salad or soup. Dessert for all three is New York cheesecake. Entrée for all ranges is your choice of prime rib, filet mignon, salmon filet, or half a free range chicken, served with a variety of really good vegetables and potatoes. I’ve already sampled the prime rib; it’s quite good.
Please advise when you make your reservation. If anyone has a problem with the dinner as described, now is a good time to voice your concern. If we have any vegetarians, for instance, I can figure out what the non-meaterific entrée could be and get back to you. I’ll look forward to seeing you all in May!
Confirmed attendees:
Burt Likko, Jason Kuznicki and Boegiboe, Russell Saunders, Tod Kelly.
Indicated strong likelihood of attending:
Jaybird (Maribou’s attendance uncertain); Will Truman (Dr. Truman’s attendance uncertain); Mark Thomson; E.D. Kain; Mark Boggs.
Please advise if you are coming, so I can make the correct reservation for our group dinner. For the same reason, please advise if you are bringing a spouse or other date.
TIA, Your Cruise Director Burt Likko.Report
“To make your reservations, call (800) 635-7711 and advise that you are registering for “The League of Ordinary Gentlemen.””
I won’t be attending, but can people PLEASE record the receptionist’s response to this request? I imagine there might be some high comedy potential.Report
I thought that for a second, then I realized it’s Vegas. You don’t think every oddly named company/club/cult in the country doesn’t already make group reservations?Report
Furries have their con in pittsburgh, fwiw.Report
Yea, but this one is so NERDY. I’d imagine the receptionist thinking something along the lines of, “The guys couldn’t even give themselves an impressive name?” Unless she thinks it is ironic. But, based on only myself, I don’t know that we present, at first glance at least, as being a particular extraordinary group of individuals.Report
Just wait until someone snaps the group photo with the bowler hats.Report
You guys are going to take the bowler hat picture? …Without me…?
Seriously speaking, what are the general age demographics of the LoOG in general and of those attending the trip? I’m 28 and constantly think I’m the youngest person here, but then someone will say something that will make me think otherwise (I often suspect JB is my age but I have no idea). I ask because I am trying to help my wife understand blogging in general and this site specifically, but would not even know how to begin to explain to her attending such a trip. She is weary of the interweb in many ways and needs a 20 minute pep talk before attending a party with people we’ve known for years. “Hey hun, want to go with me to Vegas to hang out with a bunch of people who MIGHT be our age but MIGHT be our parents age? No, you won’t be the only girl there. Yes, you won’t know any of the other women. Hun? HUN???” [sound of tires screeching]Report
“I’m a man. I’m 40.”
I know about how old Jaybird is, but I don’t know that I can say.Report
Oh, yes, please don’t “out” anyone. My question is simply voluntary. It is just interesting that, for all that we DO know about each other, there is a ton we DON’T know about each other. These relationships are almost the opposite of what you have in real life… there are many people about whom I know their name and age and family structure and where they live… but nary a thing about their personal or political philosophy or where they stand on certain issues, etc, etc, etc.
For those attending who do NOT know each other in RL, it might be a fun game to try to guess who is who. I would assume everyone looks exactly like their Gravatar, which does not speak well for Mr. Carr (I have a terrible fear of zombies and am constantly tempted to kill him).Report
I wound up as Facebook friends with Kyle, Erik, and Jaybird, so I found out all their terrible dark demographic secrets.
Assuming they told Zuckerberg the truth, of course.Report
“I would assume everyone looks exactly like their Gravatar, which does not speak well for Mr. Carr (I have a terrible fear of zombies and am constantly tempted to kill him).”
Then I’d just like to take this time to point out that whatever kind of tree I am, I am not the Giving Tree.Report
Anyone who reads your contributions to this community with any discernment can easily tell that you’re a blue spruce.Report
Based on various Wednesday! posts, I’m pretty sure JB is older than me (I’m 35), and younger than Patrick.Report
You mean you’re not a bashful 3-year-old girl? And here I thought you were so precocious!Report
I once had a dream about trying to push a junked car across a frozen lake with Jay (no idea what that could mean!). This was before he was a Facebook friend or had the avatar. In my dream, he was a hyperactive, sprite-like, 15 year old.Report
We’ll get the car across, my man. Just believe.Report
I think you may be approaching this incorrectly. Try this:
“Hey, hun, I’m going to go meet these guys at Vegas. You don’t have to come if you don’t want to, of course. I think there’s stuff to do in Vegas those times when the guys are off with their wives and husbands doing couples things.”Report
Brilliant thinking which might actually get her there. But it won’t get her out of the hotel room or me out of the doghouse once she realizes what I’m really up to… nerding about with a bunch of strangers.Report
Tell her about the buffets.Report
The Forum shops. The pool(s). Ethel M’s chocolate factory – with the tour! The Hoover Dam is driving distance.Report
Even just gawking at the vulgar spectacle that is the Strip. For that you’ll probably find a monorail ticket will be handy. (My wife is already sick unto death of that joke.)Report
Get her to the pinball hall of fameReport
I’m 36, FWIW. And she certainly won’t be the only spouse there with little interest in blogging. The Better Half is going to have to do some serious cramming to maintain the happy illusion that he reads my blog.Report
Vegas has shows, shopping, spas — Mrs. Likko has no shortage of ways to deplete the Likko Checking Account in Las Vegas. I’m willing to bet that all the other non-blogging spouses who possess even minimal social skills will figure out something fun to do.Report
Things my wife doesn’t like: gambling; as a result, Vegas; new people; being left with “the wives”.
Things my wife does like: shopping; food; sleeping; cats.
If anyone is married to a cat, and said cat will be in attendance, I MIGHT have an angle.Report
1) Pinball Hall of Fame. Because it’s awesome.
2) Some of the best food ever.
3) Shopping? Shopping? as in for clothes? Don’t ask me, I hate it.Report
If anyone is married to a cat, and said cat will be in attendance, I MIGHT have an angle.
I’ll see what I can do.Report
JB-
Don’t let anyone tell you that you aren’t a giver, big guy.Report
Yeah. Plus I’m kind of assuming we won’t just be talking about blogging all the time.Report
I am loathe to consider attendance or even look at promised bowler hat pictures knowing that Burt, Doc and Jason will no longer look like their Gravatars.
I am afraid that Mark’s will be accurate.Report
They can all tell blogging spouse stories to each other. “And then he comes in the room saying “I finished my post!” and then you know that he’s *REALLY* saying “STOP WHAT YOU ARE DOING RIGHT THIS MINUTE” and when you tell him that, no, I’m busy, he gets this look on his face…”Report
I’m in my low-to-mid thirties.Report
I am very, very old.Report
Well, you’re senile anyway.Report
Wait… what?Report
Bah-dum dum!Report
Exactly! Would a senile guy know the Shecky Green material? I think not.Report
I expect the senile guy would just rehash the Shecky Green material, over and over.
Incipient signs, my friend. Incipient signs.Report
Ugh. Now I feel old. Richard Nixon was President when I was born.Report
Ditto.Report
I’m an LBJ man, myself.Report
LeBron James…?Report
You feel old? When I was born, he was VP.Report
Younger than I thought, Will. The gravatar threw me!Report
Since everyone is confessing their age (or age range), perhaps Tod will compile the information. Something similar to what he did for our locations… just a thought. It may give people an idea of what they are getting when they come here.Report
Yeah, I don’t think this is name would cause anyone in Vegas to even invest the effort of moving their necks to look from their computer screens. I could have said “Coalition of Legitimate Sicilian Businessmen” or “International Congress of People With Absolutely No Unusual Sexual Proclivities” and that wouldn’t have mattered, either. They want your eighty bucks a night and they want you to not damage their room. After that, they kind of stop caring.Report
They want you to gamble, too. The whole facility is designed to get you to walk through the casino, drink in hand, and decide… hey, listen to those shouts over there! Man, what are those guys playing? What’s this “craps” game…Report
That “craps” game is incredibly fun.
…when you’re winning it.Report
The biggest problem with craps is that you go from winning to losing just like *that*.
“Hey, where’s all my money?”Report
“They offer three tiers of platings, which will range from $65-$75 per plate (that comes to $83.27 to $96.08 after tax and tip, but does not include drinks). “
You say this like you’re not planning to pay for everyone’s dinner.Report
I think the guys who blog at Forbes and The Atlantic should get their editors to chip in an expense voucher for… ah… social networking research.Report
This.
What exactly does the name Forbes scream, anyway, if not “money?”Report
Recent financial events lend themselves to the possibility in a way they previously did not – but, I’d really like to see another gravatar or two from the commentariat lest I feel a little out of place.
I feel like someone else from the community has to be secretly wanting to go but is waiting for someone to come out and say they’re going first.
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So why not you?Report
Yeah! Also, there’s no big difference at this site between writers and commenters. And plus I think Boggs is coming, and maybe Snark, so you might not even be the first. Plus I’d like you to go of you can.Report
Sorry, I didn’t mean it to be that self-centered!
I can’t commit just yet, but the affordability door is now open where it was once closed.
I figured by coming out and saying so, some others might feel like they have permission to attend, not vice versa.Report
Nope. Too late. Sorry, but now you are obligated to come.Report
I should know better than to displease my Tod.Report
I’ve not given a whole lot of thought to activities other than meeting for drinks Friday night and dinner Saturday night. It’s possible to overplan, after all, and other things will happen or not, organically. I see some concern about what spouses might do as we blather about our geeky interests. I’m less worried about that because really, I think that there will be little need for spouses to separate from the rest of us. With a group our size, it’s entirely probable that we simply won’t have the ability to hold a seminar or anything like that.
One sort of cool thing is down the street from the LVH: a shave shop. Gentlemen can get a professional, straight-razor shave from a barber. I’ve had one of these, at an Art of Shaving salon at the Planet Hollywood mall, and it’s a treat. Haven’t had it at this place which looks a little less polished than the Art of Shaving.
Shopping at the LVH is a bit limited. There’s some stores and boutiques, but it’s nothing like the Forum Shops or the Venetian/Palazzo or the Planet Hollywood stores, which are all overwhelming in their retailosity. There’s outlook malls on the south strip and the LV Fashion Center next to the Mirage, also. The spa and salon at the LVH did look pretty good; at least there was the full range of massages and treatments on offer.
The LVH is right next to the Las Vegas Country Club so if you want to golf, the concierge can get you hooked up. I’ve no idea what greensfees and club rentals would be.
The pool and sun deck at the LVH are pretty good. It was a bit cool for that sort of thing when I did my recon trip earlier this month (technically still February as I write) but there’s bound to be an outdoor bar by the pool so you can lounge in the sun, have someone bring you alcoholic beverages and maybe little snackies that you charge to your room while you are thus lazing about, and dip in the pool to cool off when you feel like it. There’s also tennis courts and a fitness center that looked pretty good for the health-minded.
I took my mother-in-law and her friend, and my wife, to Hoover Dam a few weeks ago. It’s about an hour’s drive there, an hour for the basic tour, however much time you want to spend taking pictures and drinking in the remarkable sight of the thing, and if you want to get lunch (that’s a dam pricey cheeseburger, by the way) that’s some time too. Maybe a half day, four to five hours. Since I did it once, frankly I’ve little desire to do it again. Hey, if you want to, you can arrange for a helicopter or small airplane tour of the Grand Canyon.
Of course, there’s shows. Lots of shows. About six Cirque du Soleil shows at various casinos, Phantom at the Venetian, Celene Dion at Caesar’s, Garth Brooks at the Encore, Absinthe also at Caesar’s, Penn & Teller at the Rio, about half the time there’s someone not bad playing at the Hard Rock. The house acts at the LVH are an impressionist and an Elvis “tribute” singer, which frankly didn’t look all that impressive although I didn’t actually see their shows so maybe they are good.
Dueling piano bars. Ice bars — everything made of ice, including the glasses; you get a fur coat to wear while you’re there. The dancing water fountains and art exhibits at the Bellagio. Jousting shows at the Excalibur. Gondola rides at the Venetian. Classic video arcades at Circus Circus. The Big Shot and upper-deck roller coaster at the Stratosphere, or the roller coaster at New York New York. Comedy clubs. Magic clubs. Dance clubs (typically only open quite late). All within an easy monorail ride from our hotel.
And then there’s always, you know, gambling. If you like that sort of thing.
Point is, there will be things you and your spouse can do together. There will be things your spouse can do if he or she gets bored with us geeks talking about geeky stuff. No one should be bored, at least not for very long.
But since I’m the Cruise Director, it falls to me to ask if there are any things that we ought to plan other than meeting for a dinner, or whether I might find some things that have Spouse Appeal. I don’t know your spouses so I’d keep these things pretty generic.Report
At this point I think of myself more as “an occasional reader and commenter” than as “Jaybird’s wife” anyway. Er, in this particular context. And granted he doesn’t like to leave the house without me anyway.
Is there such a thing as “generic Spouse Appeal”? I recommend books, and anarchy.
(Which is to say, we’re about to call and make our reservations. We’ll be flying in late Friday, may miss drinks, and flying out more toward the early side of Sunday – I have to work on Memorial Day.) Please add us to the Saturday night dinner reservations!
PS I’m almost 35, and Jay’s about 5 years older.Report