12 thoughts on “Jeb!

  1. What’s interesting to me is that BHAG is clearly a reference to Jim Collins’ book Built to Last, and the phrase “big hairy audacious goal” made something of a stir in the corporate world at the end of the 90’s.

    I’ve read it, and the followup “Good to Great”. I’d recommend them. As to BHAG, Inc. making money off of the Jeb! logo? Well, someone was going to make money off that, I guess. If not Jeb, then someone else was going to sell the swag. If it stays in the campaign, then there are a bunch of rules about how it can be spent.Report

  2. Okay zic but so what? Why does this matter? If anything Id give points for being clever but i dont think thats your intent.Report

    1. You attribute some intent to me that I don’t hold, I think, @notme

      You’re the one who likes to play ‘gotcha’ ideology games; and you presume I’m just like you.

      It seems to me that when running a campaign, a politician would want people to use their logo, to spread it around. Trademarks need to be defended from that very thing. So it’s either an indication that Jeb! is not serious about actually being president, and just wants to enrich himself from running, or that he’s failed to think about the repercussions of having his logo trademarked on a successful campaign, where he’s (by trademark law) required to defend it from people using it without first licensing it; which makes having folk spread your message mighty difficult.Report

        1. That’s not how trademark works; trademark holders don’t get to pick-and-choose; they either defend or, if they don’t, lose the right to the trademark if someone else uses it.

          I’m sure, though, that this is the intent, and one that would prevent uses the candidate (or his minions at the corporation) deems unfavorable. But a violation by a site like Mother Jones (or here!) would not be upheld of other sites infringed without repercussion.Report

          1. Well, if it is up to the trademark holder to defend, as the link I posted states, then barring more information ( a more informative link, or one of the laywers here weighs in) I think they are on the right track.

            As for OT or Mother Jones, it looks like the law allows certain uses to be made of copyrighted work without permission or payment—uses like news reporting, parody and others—uses that Congress and the courts have determined are either protected by the First Amendment, do not harm the market for the original work, or some combination of both. So I am guessing that OT will be fine.Report

          2. Zic, I’m not sure where your getting this “you have to enforce your rights against all infringers” or you lose your rights. Im confident you are wrong though. If that was the case, it would be akin to infringers having an affirmative defense that only required a showing that others also infringed but were not sued. That is simply not the case.

            And yes, “failing to enforce, plus generification” can lead to lose of a trademark, but the generification part is doing all the work there.Report

            1. And of course i don’t mean to say its good business to not protect your marks. You should protect them. But use it or lose it simply doesn’t apply here.Report

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