The North Carolina Story Is a Pretty Big Deal

by · February 17, 2012

Mark of New Jersey

Mark is a Founding Editor of The League of Ordinary Gentlemen, the predecessor of Ordinary Times.

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  1. Chris says:
    February 17, 2012 at 4:15 pm

    Yeah, that memo is awful. This is a shitty program, which is a shame, because it’s very easy to create a good program that just supplements kids’ meals if the parents choose to do so.Report

    • Plinko in reply to Chris says:
      February 17, 2012 at 4:50 pm

      Yes, this. There’s still mountain/molehill stuff with the way many approach this story, but I don’t think it’s avoidable to say some school officials in this story need a serious reality check.Report

  2. Patrick Cahalan says:
    February 17, 2012 at 4:18 pm

    Sorry, that’s my fault.  I had to go put your name on a law…Report

  3. Jaybird says:
    February 17, 2012 at 5:10 pm

    I’m just glad that I kept my “Obama in Whoomp There It Is! Video” post in the editor.Report

  4. Maxwell James says:
    February 17, 2012 at 5:27 pm

    I don’t know. The fact that it remains an opt-in program still looms pretty large to me – and I couldn’t help but note that Morgenstern conveniently left that out of her otherwise assiduous reporting. I think your original verdict was on-point.Report

  5. MFarmer says:
    February 17, 2012 at 5:28 pm

    Part of my point in the first post was that even if the story had been untrue, to use it to beat back criticism of government overreach, or mock over-reaction to over-reach, or to dressdown the critics of government over-reach, is strange, seeing that it’s entirely possible to believe that government agents are checking lunchboxes and making adjustments, and will do much more if they aren’t limited at some point.Report

    • Mark Thompson in reply to MFarmer says:
      February 17, 2012 at 5:34 pm

      I think you are reading an intent and purpose in my original post that was not present.Report

      • Infuriating Pedant in reply to Mark Thompson says:
        February 17, 2012 at 5:47 pm

        …and when has that stopped anybody?Report

        • MFarmer in reply to Infuriating Pedant says:
          February 17, 2012 at 5:57 pm

          “…and when has that stopped anybody?”

          This time, at least. I apologize for misunderstanding your intent.Report

          • MFarmer in reply to MFarmer says:
            February 17, 2012 at 6:01 pm

            Then, there is this, and I get confused:

            But you know how the battle against that needs to be fought? By focusing on the shit that matters and not having a collective freakout on shit that doesn’t hold up under any kind of scrutiny. Because if you focus on that kind of shit, then you’re not focused on the stuff that actually matters. So forgive me for pointing out that this story is basically bullshit in the off-chance that it might help some people focus on the things that actually matter.

            On top of that, even if non-troversies like this somehow had a positive effect on freedom in this country, it would still be well worth pointing out when they’re wrong. I can imagine nothing worse for freedom in the long run than to win the battle on the back of bullshit propaganda, nothing worse for the principal of “no force or fraud” than the use of fraud to advance it.

            Last but not least, I don’t remotely see how allowing factually bogus claims to pass unchallenged into places of prominence is better for the cause of freedom than actually challenging such claims when they are, inevitably, made. It has always seemed to me that in order to advance any cause significantly in a more or less democratic system, you first need to have and maintain credibility.Report

    • Bruce Majors in reply to MFarmer says:
      February 23, 2012 at 9:44 am

      It’s not like the TSA is inspecting backpacks on the DC metro and cars on Tennessee highways. They are limiting themselves to airports.

      To think that some day you would need a special work permit to work in a capital city or a residency permit to live in the same neighborhood with government officials, or that if one lives or works near them you might be subject to background checks and random strip searches to ensure order and stability is just an over reaction.Report

  6. Cee says:
    February 17, 2012 at 7:18 pm

    I don’t want to dig through comments if it was in there, how did you find the cut from The Blaze?Report

  7. DensityDuck says:
    February 17, 2012 at 7:31 pm

    It’s an opt-in program?

    Did you ever see that one episode of the Twilight Zone?  Where the guy signed a paper?  And then they cut out his tongue?  But it didn’t die?  It just grew and pulsated and gave birth to baby tongues?  Weird, right?  Anyway, I gotta go.Report

  8. Brandon Berg says:
    February 17, 2012 at 7:55 pm

    Crow tastes bitter.

    You’re overcooking it. Try it medium-rare.Report

  9. Jason Kuznicki says:
    February 17, 2012 at 9:56 pm

    It’s not a big deal.  I’m only a dittohead.  Carry on.Report

  10. JM says:
    February 19, 2012 at 10:49 am

    You’re issuing a correction based on a Glenn Beck story?

    Guess I won’t be coming back here.Report

  11. Bruce Majors says:
    February 22, 2012 at 3:37 pm

    I prayed for your soul and She answered me in her beneficence

    For making me selfish,
    When I am unsteady,
    Thank you! Ayn Rand,
    I feel better alreadyReport

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