Whistling Past the Graveyard
Earlier this week, President Joe Biden met with China’s dictator Xi Jinping for nearly 3 hours in Bali, Indonesia at the G20 Summit of nations. The meeting has been described by analysts as a boon for future cooperation between the nations and their leaders on major transnational issues and a positive step away from tension and towards engagement. According to the Biden administration, the discussion cemented the idea on both sides of the Pacific that conflict is not coming and that a new Cold War is indeed not in the cards. The Biden administration is touting this as a genuine diplomatic success and a move towards stability in East Asia, and has praised President Biden’s warm personal relationship with Xi. From reading major news reports of this meeting, you’d think that the US and China are on a glide path towards better relations in the short and long term, under the joint leadership of Xi and Biden – a big step towards mutual security after the chaos of the Trump administration.
Unfortunately for us, that framing is inaccurate in the extreme. This meeting makes us no safer, gives us no positive assurances from China, and betrays the Biden administration’s terribly naïve instincts on foreign affairs.
Before diving into some analysis of the meeting, you should read the Biden administration’s readout of the event, which lays out what the leaders (supposedly; we’ll get back to that later) talked about and the feelings of both parties from the American perspective. I say the American perspective, as these meetings often are interpreted differently by each side of the equation, particularly when translation is involved.
Besides the content of the discussion, which constitutes the bulk of my concern, the length of the meeting itself is worrying. I have less confidence in a long meeting between Biden and Xi than I do a short one; Xi is a canny geopolitical player and Biden has struggled to get through a paragraph written on a teleprompter. A long meeting plays far more into China’s hands than into our own, as our leader is 80 years old and is on a trip halfway across the world, while theirs is younger, fresher, and only a few hours’ flight from his homeland. And this is not a partisan issue – Donald Trump had the exact same problem, albeit for a different reason. In his case, long meetings gave him a greater chance to say something incredibly stupid or counterproductive, as well as to agree to the demands of his interlocutor, even if they ran against American interests.
Another issue that is more about the form than the substance revolves around what has been described as the warm relationship between Xi and Biden, as the two have known each other for over a decade and have met in person before. Biden and Xi seemed pleased to see one another, according to reporting from major outlets, and ‘experts’ on the region have characterized the two as having “a solid personal relationship” that provides “reassurance in hearing directly from the other leader.” President Biden apparently congratulated Xi on his recent success at the Party Congress, where he retained his iron grip on power and sidelined his potential opponents with ruthless efficiency – hardly something for a democratic leader to congratulate an autocratic ruler for. I don’t know about you, but I am old enough to remember the vitriol rightly directed at President Biden’s immediate predecessor for his close personal relationships with anti-American dictators like Vladimir Putin and Kim Jong-Un; why is the same sort of relationship being ignored – or even lionized – by the media now? It is either good to have personal rapport with evil autocrats, or it isn’t. I know which side I am on, but many in the media and punditry world need to make a choice.
Besides these side issues, what of the actual substance of the meeting itself? Surely that was a net positive, right? Sorry to have to disappoint, but the substance of the dialogue looks even worse than the form. This is eminently visible from reading the Biden administration’s readout of the meeting.
The biggest takeaway from the Biden-Xi summit in Bali was the determination that China and the US need to work together on major international issues like “climate change, global macroeconomic stability including debt relief, health security, and global food security – because that is what the international community expects.” The most important aspects of a good diplomat (or a good negotiator of any kind) are tactfulness with one’s words and a good BS detector to understand when your interlocutor is blowing smoke up your rear. As anyone who has followed Joe Biden’s nearly 50-year political career knows, he has never been one for tact. And if the Biden administration truly believes – as they are saying they do – that China is at all serious about working with the US on these major transnational problems, their BS detector is irreparably broken.
On the climate front, billed as a significant positive result of this meeting, China is playing us and has been for years now. First of all, China was the one who stopped these meaningless negotiations after Speaker of the House Nancy Pelosi visited Taiwan; us pushing so hard to restart these talks reeks of desperation and domestic political concerns. China wants us to fully embrace the most radical climate change proposals because they would be the net beneficiary of those plans. China, as a major rising economy and goods producer, has the most to gain from the West kneecapping itself economically – which the radical climate agenda would absolutely do. It would rapidly surpass the US as the big dog on the economic block and would have little in its way to retain that preeminent status. China – well, to be more accurate, Uighur slaves – also produces much of the world’s ‘green energy’ technology, from solar panels to the rare earth metals needed to craft high-tech batteries. Negotiations are usually multi-sided, but these are purely unilateral; China has done nothing and will continue to do nothing to prevent climate change. China has routinely ignored its non-binding pledges in the climate realm and has been commissioning new coal-fired power plants every year, only ramping up its emissions. For China’s leaders, engagement on climate change means making no concessions while forcing the West to decarbonize and ruin our productive economies. Why wouldn’t they be happy with these talks? On the other hand, why would we be?
Another area of cooperation that the Biden administration discussed with China was in the domain of health security. I know the president has been forgetful at times, but I’m sure he remembers the massive global pandemic we all lived through for the past 2 years (if not, I know you, dear reader, do). Given the Chinese government’s direct role in allowing the pandemic to spread unfettered across the globe – and its potential initial leak from a Chinese biolab – why would anyone trust a single word the Chinese government says on the topic of public health? They lied from the start of the pandemic, drastically curtailing the ability for the international community to deal with this virus and contain it; they have covered up the pandemic’s origins and spread by impeding investigations and deleting key data; they have manipulated international organizations to hide their role in the devastation of the past 2 years. More than any other nation or institution, the Chinese Communist Party is the cause of the Covid-19 pandemic. We cannot let them get away with that, much less cooperate with them on future public health matters! For an administration that has been bold about calling out their domestic political rivals for lies and ‘misinformation’, they sure swallow it up when it’s served on bone china by Xi Jinping.
President Biden also sought to work with China on global macroeconomic issues, including – hilariously – debt relief. Why do I say hilariously? Well, that’s because China is perhaps the biggest debt-trapper on the planet and is the world’s largest creditor nation. China has constantly given predatory loans to developing countries as part of its Belt and Road infrastructure investment program, ones which often come with clauses allowing Chinese control of the projects built if debt is not repaid. This practice and its malign results were made clear earlier this year in Sri Lanka, where the government violently collapsed in part due to scandalous Chinese loan conditions that would have seen control of major ports and airports transferred to the CCP. These agreements have been entered into by desperate nations around the world, and the dominos are only starting to fall; a global recession, as many analysts predict for 2023, would bring more of these corrupt arrangements to light. China, partly due to the Belt and Road loans, is the largest creditor nation on Earth; why would they want to reduce international indebtedness? They are the ones collecting on that debt, after all. The fact that the Biden administration stressed this as a potential area of collaboration shows their extreme naiveté.
If this is the approach that the Biden administration thinks is serious, and if they see true areas of agreement on the issues laid out above, they are far out of touch with reality. It is eminently clear from the publicly-available facts that Chinese leadership is completely disingenuous (at best) in these very areas, yet the American government somehow sees them as acting in good faith. Given their reaction to this meeting, it is no wonder why the administration wanted to return to negotiations with the Islamic theocrats in Tehran. Based on these foreign policy intuitions, the Biden team wouldn’t know good faith if they fell into a pile of crucifixes.
The meeting was not all sunshine and rainbows, at least according to the Biden administration’s account. They claim that the president brought up human rights issues, Taiwan, and China’s aggressive economic practices in the discussion, holding Xi to account for his regime’s policies. That would be nice, but I am reluctant to believe that such rhetoric either was delivered effectively or was received with anything other than mocking scorn. Part of this is a gut feeling based on the other outcomes of the meeting and the general disparity in ability between Biden and Xi, but much more of it is based on actual Chinese policy and their reactions after the meeting.
A purportedly-significant outcome of the meeting was the apparent agreement between Xi and Biden on the status of Taiwan, the biggest issue in the China-US relationship. The president said after his time with Xi that he does not see an invasion of Taiwan as “imminent” and that neither party wished for the status quo on Taiwan to be altered. First of all, it’s a hell of a low bar to merely believe something as serious as an invasion of another nation is not imminent; does that mean it is happening soon, but not imminently? That it will happen in 30 years? That it will never happen? None of these questions have been answered – partly because President Biden refused to take questions from the press. Also, if an invasion is not imminent, but still likely in the next few years, as our military officials have stated, what are we doing to prepare? Why is this not a daily topic of discussion in the executive branch and the Congress? We have seen the mess made by Russia’s revanchist invasion of Ukraine; a similar crisis over Taiwan would be significantly worse. Basic lack of imminence does not and should not ease any fears. Besides that odd remark, the fact that both parties could agree on the “status quo” is meaningless; the US and China have vastly divergent visions of what that status quo entails. The US sees it as keeping Taiwan a separate polity from Communist China, while still acknowledging their national ties. China sees it as guaranteeing future integration of Taiwan into China. The idea of the status quo held by the Chinese government does not preclude an invasion of Taiwan meant to bring it back into China; after all, there is only One China.
One of the key headlines coming out of Indonesia was that the US and China agreed that the bilateral relationship was not “careening toward confrontation,” and that it was purely good-natured competition, not adversarial in nature. President Biden specifically stated that he wished to “manage this competition responsibly,” and that he “absolutely believe[d] there need not be a new Cold War.” That would certainly be news to China, as they have treated Sino-American relations as though we have been engaged in a Cold War for years. China’s economic malpractice, militarism, imperial designs on the territory of American friends, pandemic cover-up, constant political and industrial espionage, and targeted cyberattacks on American businesses should have made that message very obvious by now. According to the Chinese readout, Xi claimed that “China has never sought to alter the current international order, does not meddle in American domestic politics and has no intention of challenging and replacing the United States.” This is a blatant lie.
China has meddled in American politics for decades now, going back to the 1990s, and this has only ramped up as their influence in the US has increased. TikTok, as a massive social network owned by effective functionaries of the CCP, is a far larger source of danger to American politics than were the laughable Russian Facebook ads which supposedly influenced the 2016 election. Those ads were perhaps seen by several thousand people; TikTok is the biggest source of news for the latest generation of American voters. As the old ditty goes, “one of these things is not like the other.” China indeed does seek to change the international order to one which is more favorable to them and destroys or displaces the world-system which has done more to build American prosperity than anything in our history. China has sought to undermine or control international organizations and shape them to their will, neutering human rights groups and taking advantage of international trade institutions. The CCP abuses international law by ignoring its dictates when it cuts against their interests, while simultaneously holding fast to the letter of the rules when they wish to criticize rivals. China has tried to build alternate institutions to replace those created by the West in the aftermath of the Second World War, they have sought to prop up their currency as an alternative way to price commodities like oil, and have harassed or cudgeled other less powerful nations to accept malign Chinese influence in their affairs. China has explicitly stated (at the very same G20 summit, no less) that, in concert with Russia, it wants to “build a multipolar world.” This is not some innocuous notion; we are seeing its results on the battlefields of Ukraine as we speak. A multipolar world would be one where Great Powers could invade their sovereign neighbors with impunity, blackmail others, and only gain from the experience. No American statesman should accept that sort of world.
The American readout of the summit also stated that President Biden raised the issue of Ukraine and that China and the US “reiterated their agreement that a nuclear war should never be fought and can never be won and underscored their opposition to the use or threat of use of nuclear weapons in Ukraine.” This would be a serious coup for the Biden administration, given that China has been preternaturally silent on the issue of Ukraine, despite continuing to purchase Russian oil and commodities. Unfortunately, it is entirely false. The very next day after the Biden-Xi tête-à-tête, China’s influential Foreign Minister Wang Yi praised Russia for its “opposition to nuclear war” at the G20 summit. Given the fact that Russia has been the only party in Ukraine to rattle the nuclear saber, this statement is a clear repudiation of the supposed agreement claimed in the American readout. If Russia’s actions in Ukraine constitute “opposition to nuclear war,” then you might as well consider Douglas MacArthur an anti-nuclear crusader. Russia and China (and Iran) have only become more aligned over the past decade in their push to alter the world order to suit their authoritarian, repressive, imperialist aims. That the Biden administration sees China as a potential ally in punishing Putin for his war on Ukraine is absurd.
That particular example is telling as to the Biden team’s fundamental naiveté on foreign policy issues. Joe Biden said after his meeting with Xi that “I think we understand one another, which is the most important thing that can be done.” Regrettably for American national interests, it doesn’t seem like the president or his administration understands what is going on with China at all. And that is exactly what the Chinese Communist Party wants.
Despite the harsh tone of my analysis, this meeting may not have itself been an utter disaster (although I would say that it’s pretty darn bad). The bigger issue is that it portends a dangerous future where we are unprepared for the reality of greater conflict with China. We are not building out our military – especially our navy – to face the Chinese threat, leaving us at a severe shortfall in ship numbers, stuck with older vessels, and left without the ability to project enough regional force to overcome those disadvantages. We have not worked hard enough to move or incentivize the moving of supply chains outside of China to diversify away from a single supplier for critical goods and resources; similarly, we have failed to properly secure domestic or allied sources of key commodities we will need in the case of a long-term enmity. We are not taking steps to isolate China internationally, prevent its coercive economic and diplomatic penetration abroad, or create a stable regional bulwark of friends and allies to protect these shared vital interests. We have not directly made convincing arguments against China’s retrograde ideas of the world order; instead, we are trying to cooperate with them on issues they have no intention of resolving. We are focusing on diplomacy and engagement with a partner who is lying to our faces and has no long-term interest in maintaining the stability of the world order we lead. We don’t have a choice as to whether this will be confrontation or competition, whether this will be a new Cold War or not; China has made those choices for us. It is now up to us as to whether we will recognize this reality and, if we do, what we will do about it.
“… Biden has struggled to get through a paragraph written on a teleprompter.”
Tell me you made up your mind in advance before telling me you made up your mind in advance.Report
He was saying that his first reaction was pessimistic due to the length of the meeting, and explaining why. So he had apprehensions in advance, yeah, and explained them.Report
Just this fiscal year the Navy was appropriated $26 Billion to buy 13 new warships. Our current Navy active ship total is where it was in 2003 – were we too small then? And why is it Biden’s fault that his administration is spending the funds Congress gives it on the things Congress directs?
You’ve seen the CHIPs Act, right? Did Trump or Bush ever propose anything like that, much less get it passed?
So you want us to unilaterally impose a trade war on china that pissess on our NATO, EU and Asian allies? I’m sure Japan and South Korea would love to chat with you about that.
You assume it’s not simply because you aren’t in the room. That’s generally a bad assumption.
And that’s where you lost all credibility. China has indeed been uncooperative in the post emergence investigation, but when the Republican Controlled Senate Intelligence Committee agreed with the DNI that it was highly unikely to have been a lab leak, that should have pout an end to this nonsense.Report
That’s not what DNI says:
“After examining all available intelligence reporting and other information, though, the IC remains divided on the most likely origin of COVID-19. All agencies assess that two hypotheses are plausible: natural exposure to an infected animal and a laboratory-associated incident.”
https://www.dni.gov/files/ODNI/documents/assessments/Declassified-Assessment-on-COVID-19-Origins.pdf
And the Senate Report is even more emphatic.
i can only assume you guys are tilting at the “bioweapon” windmill that is obviously a disinformation campaign – even MattY debunked that one.Report
China is in fact the other pole of a multipolar world, much like the Soviet Union was after WWII. And like the USSR it also is an increasingly repressive and malevolent regime.
Except unlike that era, containment is not an option. China is deeply embedded in every economy around the world so whatever tools for leverage we have will involve a massive amount of collateral damage.
Which means that whatever tools we use to safeguard Taiwan and our interests, will be complex and involve a lot of subtlety and won’t really have the clear and satisfying outcome that say, the fall of the Berlin Wall had.
But in the main, it does appear that we are entering a new Cold War, with the outcome very much uncertain.Report
China isn’t really a pole of anything right now. Its a Great Power within its own area, but its not the center and controlling power of any kind of meaningful international bloc like the USSR was. This is one of the many reasons that China isn’t a real peer to the US, despite Beijing’s overblown conceit in recent years.
On the Cold War thing, both sides are too preoccupied with something else to really do much Cold Waring. Beijing is busy with Xi’s consolidation as Dictator-for-Life and the fallout of a number of domestic policy blunders, while Washington’s top priority is completing their once in a lifetime chance to kneecap the Russians.
Following that thought, the best ant-Beijing think Biden can do is handle Ukraine well, because that both denies Beijing a useful ally in Moscow and demostrates the value of American alliance to everyone in the Pacific regionReport
A delicious neocon screed, I enjoyed it greatly, made me feel like I was ten to fifteen years younger.Report
lol… This is the only proper response.
Well, that or “Some people will never be happy until we’re well into WWIII.”Report
You want to avoid WWIII? Do you hate Ukranians? Would you have stood with Charles Lindbergh in 1938?!?!?
Oh, you’re talking about China.
Well, yeah, we have to keep a lot of things in mind about how complicated the world is.Report
I think its important not to let past history pollute our assessment of the present. China isn’t Na.zi Germany, but it isn’t Vietnam either. It is a unique situation, similar to historical parallels in some ways, but vastly different in others.
And yes, warmongers have consistently lied and inflated foreign threats since forever.
But the fact remains that China is a severely repressive regime willing to imprison millions of people without justification. And that it is increasingly belligerent, and willing to extend its reach and influence across the globe.
FBI director ‘very concerned’ by reports of secret Chinese police stations in US
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2022/nov/18/fbi-director-very-concerned-by-reports-of-secret-chinese-police-stations-in-us
So we should take a cautious approach and not be afraid to call them out when they threaten the liberal order.Report
The Chinese overseas police stations are mostly like consulates, but I understand the concern, particularly with risk of intimidation of dissidents. Fortunately, to date at least, they’ve been good about closing them when governments asked them to, and will hopefully do that for the station(s) in the U.S.
I agree that the Chinese government is repressive, but we have no problem working closely with other extremely repressive regimes, so I’m not sure why that, in particular, is a reason why we wouldn’t work closely with them. Hell, if we work closely with them, we have more leverage with which to pressure them to be less repressive than we do if we treat them as enemies.Report
That was certainly the theory, that cooperation and integration into the world economy would give us leverage, and at least moderate their political repression. Unfortunately it hasn’t worked out that way.Report
Liberals on this site seem content to label articles that don’t match their positions.Report
If the shoe fits, why not apply it. The article is mostly a mishmash of chest thumping and criticisms against the Biden Admins approach that amount (generously) to complaints about style, all wrapped about an assortment of vacuous far right conspiracy thinking like a news paper wrapped about a decaying cod fish. When you add in the fact that the author conspicuously left out the Biden administrations devastating export restrictions on microchip related tech which has defenestrated the Chinese microchip developments the picture of the article as a dishonest hack job smeared with Maga excrement becomes even harder to deny.
In all honesty I think I’m being generous in labelling it an aught era neocon screed since neocons back then would probably be embarrassed to be caught peddling the Biden senility or the Wuhan leak conspiracy nonsense.Report
I think many of the specifically anti-China neocons from back in the day would be on board with Wuhan leak conspiracies, but yeah, the Biden senility stuff would be more the source of jokes they tell at parties than something they’d use as an argument against working with China.Report
Good point. The kind of crowd that’d swallow the Iraqi WMD story would believe anything. I joke, of course, the neocons invented that story- they didn’t fall for it. And that is the difference, of course, between right wingers then and now. Then they invented the deranged stories to snow their marks; now, decades on, the right has devolved to believing their own agit-prop.Report
*shrugs* Bernie rattled her and she went the wrong way. It’s on Hillary, she never should have let it get so close that Comeys fish up would make the difference between winning and losing. I’ll never forgive her for it.Report
I don’t really understand how a piece on the US China relationship under Biden can credibly diagnose the situation when it ignores the major changes in export rules put into place last month, the corralling of Europe away from Chinese trade and tech, or leaving in place the Trump admins tarrifs. Whatever happens at these meetings is way less consequential than the actual policy moves.
I’m also not sure that ‘we ain’t building enough boats!!!!’ is really the way to look at modern warfare. The question is whether Taiwan has the weapons technology in place to check Chinese capabilities and the command structure to use them effectively in a hypothetical amphibious attack, plus the resources to outlast a blockade.
Now I think China is a strategic threat and we have spent the last 30 years playing overly nice with them to our detriment. But they’re also facing a demographic crisis, have done serious damage to themselves with 0 covid, and may already be becoming too rich to be the world’s manufacturing hub. They relentlessly fail in soft power, and are better at making enemies than friends in their own backyard.
None of this is to underestimate them, but it is a reason to think that if we play our cards right we can still outcompete them. Which is why it is right for us to try to be the leaders of future technology, including of the cleaner variety, instead of fretting that they’re still building coal plants (which are still cleaner than those of the past, and it isn’t like the Chinese aren’t also heavily invested in renewables as well). The stone age didn’t end because we ran out of rocks, it ended because we advanced. On all of these counts the Biden admin is IMO imperfect but also not nearly the disaster suggested in the OP. It is involved in an intricate game of putting pressure where we can, but also trying to avoid a conflict. That’s hopefully what any administration would be trying to do.Report
Commenting on the substantive policies of the Biden admin towards China would undercut the overaching message of mindless chest thumping bellicosity.Report
Sadly that would seem to be the case.
And it isn’t like I’m unwilling to criticize Biden/the Democrats. I think the apparent abandonment of strategic ambivalence on defending Taiwan and Nancy’s visit to the same have been pointlessly provocative without any real benefit to the US or anyone else. But like the export thing is really a major hit to them and it isn’t even mentioned!Report
*strategic ambiguity I mean, damn autocorrect!Report
I wasn’t delighted with the end of strategic ambivalence myself though I think a good argument could be made that China “earned” the US being less ambiguity through their misbehavior. Still Pelosi’s visit deed seem reckless.
Also, if Biden really wanted to stick it to the Chinese he should resurrect some sort of TPP/free trade agreement with non-Chinese sources of cheap labor. That is, alas, something he’s completely ignored perhaps due to lack of bandwidth but likely because it’d offend a lot of Democratic interest constituencies and wouldn’t play well with the masses.Report
Free trade is just such a tough nut politically right now. I think the long term strategic interest is in figuring something out that can work as a win-win for allies and the American worker. However I would not want to prioritize it while the balance of the electoral college rests in parts of the country hit hardest by globalization. If I’m Biden and I want to do it I’m looking at it as a second term goal.Report
Yes, the political implications are prickly as all get out but inflation is not popular and loosening up trade restrictions would be deflationary (so would raising taxes on the rich).Report
Heh, of those two options I know which I would put in big bold type at the very top and which I’d bury in the fine print.Report
Ayup!Report
Oh boy yeah we should be trying to isolate China politically and economically. Agreed. We could put together some sort of trans pacific alliance of trading partners that leaves China out. That would be…..oh wait. Obama did that and the R’s/Trump scuttled it.Report
R’s like Hillary Clinton, Bernie Sanders, et cetera. You can’t fairly cast it in partisan terms when both 2016 presidential candidates were running against it.Report
TBF various D’s did backtrack on the plan Obama negotiated. The R’s led the charge and weak D’s folded. Fair enough. It was R’s against it the entire time and finished it off when trump was prez. We could have contained China a bunch of years ago but R’s torpedoed the plan. R’s/ Trump gave China the biggest economic geo political win in the last couple decades. That hillary jumped on the bandwagon isn’t promoting how good the R’s were.Report
“That Hillary jumped on the bandwagon isn’t promoting how good the R’s were.”
Which means you could have said it without anyone thinking you were a turncoat. But the point of your comment was to criticize the R’s, no matter whether the D’s were guilty too. “Both sides do it” isn’t the greatest argument, but it is a valid response to “only one side does it”.Report
TLDR: The Biden Whitehouse isn’t doing enough chest-thumping and saber-rattling towards the People’s Republic of China.Report
heh – TC;DRReport
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