- Next story Would Glass-Steagal Have Prevented the Mortgage Crisis?
- Previous story Should the Left Fear (Or Hate) Its Wonks?
Devcat Reports

We have been experiencing problems.
TEN SECOND BUZZ
Recent Posts
Hot Posts
HELP ORDINARY TIMES
Recent Comments
Jaybird in reply to Jaybird on What To Expect When You’re Expecting a Trade WarThis is a place where smart people belong in figuring this out I've met one or two smart people before. They w…
David TC in reply to Jaybird on What To Expect When You’re Expecting a Trade WarEh, I’m not a fan of tariffs at all. If the other guy is shooting himself in the foot, why join him? Tariffs s…
Dark Matter in reply to Dark Matter on Open Mic for the Week of 4/7/2025JayBird: the dance where someone asks for evidence and then, when it’s provided, they say “that’s not conclusi…
Andrew S. in reply to Jaybird on Saturday Morning Gaming: MetroidvaniasThat sounds about right from what I've seen of Hollow Knight (I think I beat the first boss and got slightly i…
Jaybird in reply to David TC on What To Expect When You’re Expecting a Trade WarI probably wouldn't consider India a first world country but they're getting there (and good for them). Street…
David TC in reply to Jaybird on What To Expect When You’re Expecting a Trade WarAnd, let’s face it, if I wanted to argue for tariffs at all, easy mode would be “reciprocal tariffs against fe…
Jaybird in reply to David TC on Open Mic for the Week of 4/7/2025I don't know that he's lying. I'm sure that he believes everything he's saying, just as he believed that there…
David TC in reply to Jaybird on Open Mic for the Week of 4/7/2025You...think he's lying about the people he directly quoted and usually linked to the quotes of int he article?
ICYMI
How Should Democrats Handle Student Loan Payments
By Eric Medlin90 CommentsOrdinary Times’ Andrew Donaldson on The Young Turks “Indisputable” with Dr. Rashad Richey
By Em Carpenter2 CommentsThursday Throughput: The Boys Are All Right Fertility Edition
By Michael Siegel100 CommentsLinky Friday: ‘Cause Ain’t No Such Things As Halfway Crooks Edition
By Andrew Donaldson34 CommentsThe Politics of Survival: Putting Yourself in a Box
By John McCumber223 CommentsThe Lost Art of Book Learning
By Em Carpenter10 CommentsOn Writing of Wrongs
By Andrew Donaldson40 CommentsGame of Thrones: Little People, Big World
By Kristin Devine60 Comments
Ordinary Twitter

No comments?Report
What would you have us do, Nob? Boycott watching NFL — and, as a practical matter, college football too and even the CFL with its bizarrely huge field — because of the information in the article?
Should we watch the games but feel guilty afterwards? Bash our heads against some load-bearing beams in our respective hours in sympathy with the players?Report
All I’m asking for is that people read it and know what happens to player’s bodies for their entertainment.
What they do after knowing is between their conscience and themselves.Report
That’s a fair reply, Nob, but it seems like a call for reflection. I can see how such a thing wouldn’t result in a lot of comments, even if it did get a lot of people thinking about it.Report
I sympathise with your request. I’ve had some issues with silence on some of my own posts. I’ve concluded everyone does read what’s written here. I know I do.
But as Burt observes: what valid response can possibly be made to this continuing tragedy?
Protest is futile, nothing seems to get through.
What’s to become of our world, who knows what to do?
Driven to tears
Rest easy, Nob. Your work is taken seriously around here. Some things, some issues, just defy any meaningful response. Lots of people here love football. We see the injury cart come out onto the field. We watch these kids — kids! — young men in their prime, hauled off the field and into the locker room and lots of them don’t come back out onto the field, ever. Doesn’t stop us from watching it, though.
Housman:
Now you will not swell the rout
Of lads that wore their honours out,
Runners whom renown outran
And the name died before the man.
So set, before its echoes fade,
The fleet foot on the sill of shade,
And hold to the low lintel up
The still-defended challenge-cup.
And round that early-laurelled head
Will flock to gaze the strengthless dead,
And find unwithered on its curls
The garland briefer than a girl’s.Report
All I’m asking for is that people read it and know what happens to player’s bodies for their entertainment.
I read it. Right when you first posted it yesterday. The whole grisly thing.
Football’s a brutal game.Report
It’s a good thing no one has ever represented playing sports as “healthy” or Nob would be pointing out a real problem here in the way that playing football can seriously impact people’s health for the worse. 😉
(OK, I realize that was truly, totally and unnecessarily snarky. Please don’t kill me. I really don’t need, want or expect a response, though if you want to say “Shut up, Glyph”, I will completely understand.)Report
We’re all starting to learn what’s going on in American football. Are similar things going on in the variants of rugby around the globe?Report
Lyndon Johnson ended his first congressional campaign with an appendix that was about to burst, but he wouldn’t stop going door-to-door asking for votes until the polls closed, because he needed to win that badly. He came very close to dying. After I read about that, I couldn’t enjoy C-SPAN anymore.Report
I was on the fence about watching the inauguration today after what it did to Ol’ Tippecanoe.Report
Ow. I had to stop reading halfway through.Report
Me, too.Report
Thanks. Now I can reinterpret the fact that I find that I found football intolerably boring as proof of my moral superiority.Report
hehReport
It’s what I do with Ayn Rand.Report