11 thoughts on “Family Values Magic

  1. As I may have mentioned in the past, my father died when I was around 10 years old. He was 39. He left behind a wife and two kids.

    One of the things my mother was told in the wake of her widowhood was (this is a paraphrase but not much of one) “I don’t know what secret sin you both must have had in your lives.”

    So maybe that’s one of the reasons someone might have for not marrying a single mother. God only knows what secret sins one might be shackling oneself to.Report

  2. My goodness, the League is on fire right now. Abortion, gay marriage, race relations.

    TNC’s cited post though was a thundering good one. Really different spin on it to me.Report

        1. @North,

          I was going to call for a post on immigration, but then I realized that Koz would probably show up on the Anne Rice thread and say something about the dangers of immigrant vampires.Report

          1. Perish the thought, I want to portray the league in the best possible way to Anne. She might let me cameo in her next book. I’m imagining an irascible fop in a bowler hat and monocle sipping sherry next to the fireplace and making sardonic quips.Report

  3. One thing that this debate has in common for me with the abortion/slavery debate is something like this:

    It’s not that inter-racial (what an ugly term) marriage is particularly like same-sex marriage, it’s that the arguments used by those most opposed to SSM contain the echoes of those who argued against inter-racial marriage.

    Let’s go back to Virginia v. Loving, the case that got called up to the Supreme Court. Per Wikipedia, Leon M. Bazile’s ruling contained the following:

    Almighty God created the races white, black, yellow, malay and red, and he placed them on separate continents. And but for the interference with his arrangement there would be no cause for such marriages. The fact that he separated the races shows that he did not intend for the races to mix.

    My goodness.

    The arguments given against the institution of SSM remind me very much of Leon’s opinion. There seems to be quite the uncanny familiarity with the Mind of God and the unquestioning willingness to ensure that God’s Thoughts are enshrined in The Majesty Of The Law.

    I reckon we’ll look back at the fight over SSM the way we now look at Leon. I hope.Report

  4. Liberals believe there is more than enough evidence to prove there is such a thing as conditional homosexuality and therefore gays exist. Conservatives believe the idea of conditional homosexuality is simply a means by which gays rationalize immoral behavior. There is just no way to bridge this gap.Report

  5. One difference between SSM and interracial marriage is the way in which
    the dispute has been caught up in the ongoing dispute between liberal and conservative Christians. So long as conservative Christians see acceptance of SSM as a conclusive victory for their liberal Christian enemies they will continue the fight against it regardless of the consequences.Report

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