The “Practical Christianity” of the Welfare State

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  1. Summa Loud says:

    So evidence for a direct link between welfare and Christianity are the words of a politician trying to sell the program to the people? By that logic the invasion of Iraq was an extension of the values of our founding fathers.

    The insurmountable difference between religious charity and government wealth redistribution is freely-given consent.Report

  2. Kyle says:

    I’ve always wondered if the fiscal conservatism of religious conservatives would be substantially eroded if government or its boosters could make the link between social welfare programs and improvement in the lot of the poor clearer and more explicit.

    Though I think that’s a job for boosters of government action rather than the government itself. In the wake of absurd amount of money spent on signs telling us what is being funded by the stimulus, i’d prefer government money help people rather then tell us they’re helping people.

    Maybe people are making these cases but all I ever hear are cries for social justice, class warfare, and the apparently limitless debt owed to one another, which let’s face it is far less compelling than that Sarah McLachlan animal cruelty commercial.Report

    • Dan Miller in reply to Kyle says:

      Oh, don’t mention that damn commercial. Now I feel bad for not adopting a dog.Report

    • Art Deco in reply to Kyle says:

      I’ve always wondered if the fiscal conservatism of religious conservatives would be substantially eroded if government or its boosters could make the link between social welfare programs and improvement in the lot of the poor clearer and more explicit.

      I sometimes think I live in a parallel universe.

      That aside, I will offer an alternative hypothesis: people’s resistance to social democratic measures might be diminished if those measures were undertaken with the minima of administrative costs, free from perverse incentives, and constructed in a way that incorporated the assumption that the behavior and dispositions of the client population were and ought to be similar to that of an ordinary wage-earning household. Ordinary wage earning households:

      1. Conduct their daily business without being superintended or ‘assisted’ by social workers;

      2. Make rent, pay for groceries, and pay their utility bills out of their earned income;

      3. Have at least one person working full-time (or living through a brief interregnum between jobs), unless all the adults in the home are old or crippled.

      4. Are anxious about being blindsided.Report

      • ObviousDude in reply to Art Deco says:

        In reply to #2:

        So you would fine with social democratic policies meant to aid the poor so long as they don’t help the poor with anything of necessity like food or shelter.Report

        • Art Deco in reply to ObviousDude says:

          One’s propensity to consume food, housing, and the issue of public utilities is fairly regular and predictable and governed to a great extent by considerations of amenity. (The services of hospitals, nursing homes, and the criminal defense bar cannot be described in this way). If you are concerned about the condition of the more impecunious portion of the population, you can take steps to improve their disposable income by restructuring the tax code.

          Milton Friedman’s proposal for a negative income tax was published in 1962. Visible progress toward that goal in the intervening half century: nil. Employees of the your local city housing authority and county welfare department vote, and they’re in the union now, so up yours.Report

  3. Art Deco says:

    I seem to recall that Bismarck had as an object diminishing the capacity of the Social Democratic Party in Germany to build a base in the electorate.Report

  4. dexter says:

    I think the welfare state started because some politicans thought it might be better to feed the poor instead of the poor using pitchforks on the rich. And as for having a welfare state in America, how much did the banks rake in last year so they could keep the money and not loan to small businesses?Report

    • Art Deco in reply to dexter says:

      The last time I checked, delinquent loans accounted for about 7% of the value of commercial bank loan portfolios. An additional increment (~0.5%) are not delinquent because the borrower has been declared in default during the quarter in question. That the banks have been stockpiling reserves does not strike this layman as surprising or deplorable, but perhaps there is something I do not understand.Report