First, Do No Fraud: The Unworthy Pardoning of John Davis

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Em Carpenter

Em was one of those argumentative children who was sarcastically encouraged to become a lawyer, so she did. She is a proud life-long West Virginian, and, paradoxically, a liberal. In addition to writing about society, politics and culture, she enjoys cooking, podcasts, reading, and pretending to be a runner. She will correct your grammar. You can find her on Twitter.

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  1. Avatar Philip H
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    The press release about the pardons says nobody was financially harmed by John Davis’s crimes. I disagree. He defrauded all of us, the taxpayers, of money meant for the health care needs of the poor, disabled, and elderly. When the high cost of health care is debated and lamented, remember folks like John and the owners of CPS who essentially stole tens of millions of dollars from Medicaid and Medicare under the guise of helping those who suffer from chronic pain.

    This. So many financial criminals declare they hurt no one. And yet they are why the healthcare industry can’t be trusted to regulate itself.

    And yes, improper payments are an issue (https://www.cms.gov/newsroom/fact-sheets/2019-estimated-improper-payment-rates-centers-medicare-medicaid-services-cms-programs) but they often lack context – for instance its nearly impossible to find trend data over time. There’s a lot of reporting on total healthcare cost trends – ever upwards – but not fraud.Report

    • Avatar Dark Matter in reply to Philip H
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      With very little info I assume that…
      1) Serious Fraud is a serious problem to the tune of many Billions of dollars.
      2) The real problem (i.e. the bulk of why our system costs too much) is with what’s legal, not with what’s illegal.Report

  2. Avatar Oscar Gordon
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    Health care fraud investigators have begun to employ data mining techniques to identify anomalies early on, such as providers with an abnormally high utilization of a particular service. It is not always fraud, but it can be a place to start looking more closely.

    This is the kind of thing that should be employed anywhere the government is handing out money for services rendered, be it healthcare, or defense, or what have you. Obviously the specifics of the tools would vary, but I would hope federal and state governments leverage such tools, and have people who continuously develop such tools.Report

    • Avatar Philip H in reply to Oscar Gordon
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      we leverage them where they are available, but we can’t keep people on staff to develop new ones – Google and Amazon (among others) pay way better then we do.Report

    • Avatar Damon in reply to Oscar Gordon
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      There are already all kinds of ways the gov’t can find out about “miss doings”. I’ve worked in the defense industries, and currently am in an aligned industry. Charge your time card wrong–it’s mischarging and possible fraud. Getting disbarred for fraud is a damn big motivator. I recall one leader commenting: there’s only 2 ways to get fired at this company. Posting porn on the bulletin board and time card fraud, and I’m not 100% sure about the first. I’ve seen people walked out the door the same day for stuff like that.

      Additionally, those who “become aware” of issues of fraud are REQUIRED to 1) address it or 2) report it or both. So, when some dumbass say in an email “I’ve been charging overhead for two weeks, I need the real charge number for this effort”, and copies me, I have to go talk to him / his boss. If I don’t, I’m subject to getting fired myself.

      All that said, there’s still a ton of mismanagement and fraud that goes on, although I suspect its more prevalent in the heath care fields.Report

    • Avatar JS in reply to Oscar Gordon
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      It does kick back some false positives.

      Friend of mine gets..cysts of some sort under her scalp. Benign, but by the time she gets around to dealing with them (ie, they’ve gone from “oh that’s there” to “constant mild headaches” from skin tension) she has five or six scattered around.

      No dermatologist will remove more than one or perhaps two at a time, because — and I quote — “Insurance refuses to pay for more in a single visit, not without weeks of constant back and forth, because they assume we’re padding the bill. But we can do three or four sessions spaced four weeks apart, and they’ll approve it. Even though it costs MORE than doing it all at once!”.

      Mind you, while just “one or two” is the most common, it’s not exactly rare for someone prone to them to have half a dozen or more that have to be dealt with every 10 years or so.

      And having said all that, I wish they’d deploy those datamining tools on pharmaceuticals. I just filled a prescription that my insurance claimed cost 300 dollars, Walgreens claimed cost 75 (with coupon) if I bypassed insurance, and you can buy over the counter in Europe for about 20 bucks. (And was, in fact, about 30 bucks cash 10 years ago).

      It’d be like walking into a pharmacy for a prescription for cortisone cream and being told it’s 200 dollars for a small tube, and all the OTC stuff has suddenly disappeared.Report

    • Avatar Michael Cain in reply to Oscar Gordon
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      Governments. For Medicaid, each state handles the payments so would need a data mining system specific to its software. Tricare and Medicare don’t use the same software. This is one of my simple-government hobby horses. One system handling the payments and we could afford to build a decent audit system. Dozens of systems? Not so much.Report

      • Avatar Dark Matter in reply to Michael Cain
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        Hospital Systems are often (normally?) created by vendors who are strongly motivated to NOT make their data/systems portable or compatible with other systems.

        If the data isn’t portable then the vendors have lock in and ideally will force other groups to use their system. From their point of view portability is just helping their competitors.Report

      • Avatar Oscar Gordon in reply to Michael Cain
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        It’s always interesting to me how we can somehow manage to have universal standards for X, but for Y? – Oh HELL NO!Report

        • Avatar Dark Matter in reply to Oscar Gordon
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          This isn’t so much a market failure (the market has this option) as a government failure. The gov largely runs HC. It’s let this situation pop up and it’s not public enough so self interested players quietly lobby for the lack of laws to fix it.

          IMHO it’s an example of dis-economies of scale of government. The rarest resource in the universe is the attention of senior management. If it takes an active role by senior management to fix this by making portability and access a priority, then it probably doesn’t happen.

          Worse, above a certain size senior management is always going to be busy with other things and the amount of lobbying ($) by those opposed scales with the size of the organization.Report

          • Avatar Oscar Gordon in reply to Dark Matter
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            Agreed, it is on the medical systems to insist upon a set of standards, and I just don’t see them doing that. And if the problem is senior management not having the attention to give to it, then I have to wonder if senior management is worth the cost*?

            *Note that I am off the opinion that 98% of senior management are not worth the cost, in that most of then do not actually add anywhere close to the value they extract from an organization.Report

            • Avatar Dark Matter in reply to Oscar Gordon
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              At Best, Senior Management here would either be the President of the US or maybe one of his Cabinet. At Worst, Senior Management is Congress.

              At the very worst it’s a combo of them where you need Congress to pass a law at the urging of the President.

              Think Turbo Tax where, to protect their business model, the company successfully got Congress to pass a law which prevents the IRS from supplying software to the public which would tell us what we owe.Report

      • Avatar Em Carpenter in reply to Michael Cain
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        All states have a Medicaid Fraud Control Unit. Until recent years, they were forbidden to data mine- they could only work off of referrals. Now they will allow it, but you have to apply to CMS for a waiver to get permission to conduct data mining activities.
        Then the issue is getting access to the date, which is under control of the Medicaid office (MFCUs are separate and independent from the Medicaid agency by statute, because they investigate fraud within the program as well.) Getting that access is not easy. And then you need staff with the training to dig through it.
        Medicaid programs have their own program integrity divisions but they have varying degrees of effectiveness. Some do next to nothing. When fraud is suspected it is supposed to be referred to the fraud units.
        It’s not super efficient and it is slow as molasses.Report

  3. Avatar Jaybird
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    Does the pardon mean that this guy can be used as a source to charge others now? Like, he no longer gets to plead the 5th?Report

  4. Avatar Fish
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    Thanks for this Em; good stuff.

    I scanned the pardon list yesterday and the thing that jumped out at me was that most of the people on it were business fraudsters like this guy. Birds of a feather, and stuff.Report

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