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I went into Logan knowing that it was an R, and I had encountered a number of people who explained that it was a *HARD* R. Which is good.
Because, seriously, it’s a *HARD* R. Lotta violence. Not just violence, because, hey, John Wick 2 had violence. This has, like, violence against children. Worse than that, I suppose, it has children being violent. (And, yes, some light self-harm in there as well.)
You might ask “what’s the big deal with violence in a Wolverine movie! Heck, in the previous movies, it feels like they’ve deliberately turned this awesome violent character into a PG-13ified grouch.” Well, for me, it felt weird because this is a character we’ve spent what? A couple of decades with? (The first X-Men came out in the year 2000(!) and that feels like it can’t be right…) Anyway, this character we’ve spent 17 years with, is no longer the PG-13ified grouch we’ve come to know and love but an aging man whose healing factor is slowing down who, suddenly, gets thrust into the position of father figure for a young mutant (with powers that are surprisingly similar to Wolverine’s) and now he’s got to protect her and get her to safety.
There is a non-zero number of cameos and if you want to be completely unspoiled by the cameos, skip this next line: Patrick Stewart is back as Professor X and he plays an old, old Professor X. One who needs medication to keep from having seizures. And, get this, one who uses the ‘F’ word when it occurs to him to do so. So if you’ve wanted to hear Professor X drop the bomb, well, this is the movie you’ve been waiting for.
So, if you’ve decided that you can handle the violence and the children in peril, how’s the movie?
It’s pretty good. It tells a similar story to ones you’ve likely seen before (and they come out and show you one of the stories they’re paying an homage to) as it’s the story of an aging antihero trying to sort which responsibilities are the most important to him and take care of the people around him when he’s only got but so many social tools in his toolkit… and culminating in a final scene that will make you say “This is like if Mel Gibson directed an X-Men movie!”
I’ve heard a lot of people make noises comparing Logan to Nolan’s treatment of Batman and I’d cosign that. It takes this absurd character and then goes to take this absurd character seriously. And, get this, finds a story worth telling with him (even if it’s a story that’s been told a hundred times before).
But, seriously, it’s really violent.
So… what are you reading and/or watching?
If for some reason you are wondering “Did Maribou also like this movie?” the answer is:
Yes, Maribou loved this movie.
Maribou also loved the first trade of Patsy Walker, aka Hellcat, which she read this morning, and Netflix’s Luke Cage, which she FINALLY got around to watching and finishing over the last couple of weeks.
Maribou seems to have rediscovered her inner Marvel fangirl.Report
How does the child/violence stuff compare to “Kick Ass”?Report
Less humorous. There was, at least as far as I was concerned, a real dark comedy aspect to Hit Girl in Kick Ass.
In this, there wasn’t really a dark humor thing going on. It was just a kid. Well, a mutant kid.
(Ironically, this story was written by the same guy as who wrote that one: Mark Millar.)Report
Well, technically, Mark Millar wrote the comic series (Old Man Logan) that this takes some inspiration from, although the comic is about eighty times more insane than anything you could ever put on a movie screen. But he didn’t have anything to do with the screenplay, to the best of my knowledge.Report
I find that I absolutely *HATE* Millar’s comics and absolutely *LOVE* movies made from the comics… especially when he didn’t have anything to do with the screenplay.Report
I’m bad at knowing the right terms for everything, but beyond the comedy/absurdity of Hit Girl, I thought Kick Ass (which I really enjoyed) was itself a commentary on comics/comic book movies (rather explicitly) and violence in media (more implicitly). So when she was running around blasting guys and taking punches to the face from grown ass men, my brain registered that a ‘point’ was being made.
It sounds like this lacks that. Which I would guess makes for a very different experience (not necessarily better or worse or righter or wronger… just different).
@zac-black
Does the comic series have the child/violence stuff? If so, going to that well twice with seemingly different intentions makes me curious.Report
Not…really. The insanity of the comics is more in the area of things like President Red Skull and the Hulk “clan” as a bunch of incestuous hillbilly landlords. Stuff like that.Report
my brain registered that a ‘point’ was being made.
Yes. Exactly.
This is a story about Wolverine finding a young mutant who needs his help and the various things that surround why she needs it.
I imagine that there might be points being made… there probably are… but it’s a lot more possible to just see the things that are happening in the story as things that are happening in the story, rather than as a criticism of superheroes, of superhero fandom, of wish fulfillment…Report
Wahoo! I understood something.Report
I went and saw this opening night with a buddy of mine, expecting it to be just okay, and I was totally blown away. I would say this is arguably almost as good as Fury Road; it certainly makes the franchise it comes from look like Saturday-morning cartoons by comparison. If you haven’t seen it yet, I really can’t recommend it enough.Report
I thought it was fantastic, possibly the best X-Men or “X-Men-adjacent” movie so far. It is true that all the best X-Men stories involved Wolverine.Report
Considering just about all of the X-Men stories involve Wolverine, you could also argue that all of the worst X-Men stories involved Wolverine.Report
Over the last month, I have been kinda starved for a good book. I must have driven to half a dozen books stores, new and used today. Bupkis. Swung by the library, the same. Get home and stare at my books, still no luck. Now I am thinking the sequel to Gene Wolfs New Sun, the long sun series, but it is not Prime available and I don’t do Kindle. So, back to the bookstores tomorrow, see if something else jumps out at me.
Watched The Expanse S1. Fun. I have read the first two books, and the series deviates enough to keep it interesting while still following the general plot line. Recommended.Report
@aaron-david
As a fellow reader of the series, season 2 has had some good scenes in it so far and I think it handled Miller’s sacrifice better than the book did. Also, Bobbie Draper is played by a New Zealander.Report
Bobby is Maori? That works well!Report
@aaron-david
I believe she’s of Samoan heritage.Report
I think it’s a lock for “Best movie about a comic book characters that there have already been a bazillion movies made about.”Report
Saw it last night and I concur, best X-Men movie to date. Certainly the Marvel movie with the most depth.
One thing that always kind of surprised me way back when was that Patrick Stewart was willing to play Xavier. I mean, it was a smart casting by the producers, but I was surprised Stewart took the role and allowed himself to be locked into it. My surprise stems from my opinion that Stewart is a far better actor than the character the movies could portray is worth. He’s too good for the role.
Except here. This movie, they clearly let Stewart and Jackman loose and the movie is all the better for it. It was a most excellent end for those two actors in those two roles.Report
Apparently once you get Patrick Stewart drunk enough he will agree to anything.
This is how a Shakespearean actor got to do Star Trek.
(Also, dune buggies. Patrick Stewart will do a lot for dune buggies).
[This is not weird, or even out of the ordinary. Casting calls made by way of “I have nudie pictures of you. Will you please act in my movie? Or else?” That’s relatively unusual. Of course, this is probably what you should have expected when you hired a blackmailer to do casting…]Report
You know what Michael Caine said about parts like that: “I never saw the film, but the house it paid for is lovely.”Report
How mercenary!
Good for him.Report
He seems to have a lot of fun doing them. Patrick Stewart isn’t a snob, likes interacting with a different audience than those that watch theatre and art house cinema and has something of an action movie itch he likes to scratch. Plus the series let him act against Ian McKellen and he loved that.Report
Yeah, I could certainly see the both of them agreeing to take on the roles as a chance to have fun and hang out together.Report
If I’ve seen some-but-not-all of the X-Men/Wolverine movies, will that impact my enjoyment/understanding of this film?Report
No, not in the least, as long as you’ve seen enough to understand the contentious but deeply respectful nature of the relationship between Xavier & Logan.Report
Who?Report
Oh, Bald Face McMindcontrol and KnifeHands von KittenMan?Report
Yes, and he prefers Angry Edward ScissorhandsReport