Weep the Revolution
The real story, of course, was the tears.
They came hard and fast, seemingly everywhere. Mostly from young women, obviously, but among many older women as well, and more than a few men. The words — Bernie’s words — were there all right, washing over these visual images of profound sorrow. In the cold light of morning, however, the words are so much background noise. The words are a Randy Newman score accompanying a sweeping panoramic shot of older, worn actors (Sissy Spacek perhaps, or a stony-faced Michelle Pfeiffer sans makeup and kept hair) witnessing the bankers’ bulldozers razing the family farmhouse circa 1934. The tears, on the other hand… The tears are a stream, a river, a vast sea of crushed dreams, the liquid equivalent of having your heart ripped out on live television by the single person you trusted to Fix Everything For Us.
Later, as the hall emptied, came the interviews.
There is the nose-ringed sprite from California whose face adopted a mask of stoic anger. So attached is she to the inevitability of the Revolution that she still seems convinced that when the balloons drop, they will by fate’s hand cascade around the white shock of bird’s nest that is Bernie Sanders’ crown. There is the young African-American woman who desperately wants to heed Bernie’s endorsement, but instead finds herself betwixt and between. Relationships, she reasons into the microphone shoved into her face, are a two way street and so “we’ll see” — opening the door just a crack to see if Hillary is willing to reach out to her. This morning, perhaps, she sits waiting for a call from the former Secretary, or maybe a Welcome to the Neighborhood basket. Even an invite to Hillary’s next open house party might cement things.
Finally there is the woman from Bernie’s own backyard of Vermont, a woman who is full in equal measures of youth and fury and righteousness and piss and vinegar. Her simmering declarations to the MSNBC reporter are as untethered from reality as her punches are from being pulled. They disrespected Bernie Sanders by putting him on last rather than first, she seethes. (She appears incredulously unaware that, as on the SXSW MainStage, in Conventionland being last is both an honor and promise of primetime viewership.) The young Berner sees too the obvious conspiracy of surrounding her beloved People’s Gladiator with in-the-bag-for-Hillary sycophants like Elizabeth Warren, Cory Booker, Keith Ellison, and Jeff Merkley. It’s a statement that gives pause to those of us at home, as we wonder how someone can be an Official Delegate of a candidate and yet still know exactly zero about said candidate’s actual campaign or endorsements. You can almost taste the MSNBC reporter’s repressed cringe as this young woman makes one ill-advised observation after another. Her entire interview is a hot, steaming mess.
I understand this young woman from Vermont, though. Just as I understand the African-American woman and the nose-ringed sprite from California. Just as I understand those that chanted “We Trusted You!” to a soft-spoken Sen. Warren. Just as I understand the scores of conventioneers standing silent, their maws duct-taped shut with black on blue admonitions of betrayal. Just as I understand the hundreds upon hundreds that stood listening in rapt adulation to their feisty champion, as the seemingly infinite reservoir of tears slipped down their faces to stain their Feel the Bern tee shirts.
There is something magical about being young and part of a Revolutionary political movement for the first time. It’s a heady, intoxicating cocktail of possibility, rectitude, and power. It’s that nerdy fantasy you’ve had since you first entered adolescence — the one where you take up the mantle of Greatness, handed down from those political heroes and artists who adorned your postered bedroom wall — and having that fantasy held out toward you by unseen hands, tantalizingly just out of grasp of your outstretched fingertips. It’s that diamond-hard faith you have in the notion that all of human history has been leading up to this one moment, the indubitableness that Father Time has been patiently awaiting you, your friends, and your new, perfect ideas, that he might finally retire from recording the Books of History. It is the soul-quenching rarity of filling your spirit with light, with life, with hope. It is, in short, the extraordinary and herculean miracle of being young and alive.
My personal Bernie Sanders was a middle-aged firebrand by the name of Jesse Jackson.
Jackson came to my college to speak during my freshman year, at a moment when I was desperately looking for some type of modern Che Guevara to rise from my red and black tee-shirt and lead us somewhere… different. Ronald Reagan appeared to have conquered all, and for a young far-lefty there was much of that conservative victory that stung: the signaling of war before peace, the newly minted Moral Majority, the proclamation from the Secretary of the Interior that he intended to ravage our national forests since, he was pretty sure, Jesus would be returning at any moment anyway and destroy everything not Raptured.
If you never had the pleasure of seeing Jesse Jackson speak to a crowd in his prime, then my-oh-my, trust me that you will never know what you missed. We say in these modern times that this person or that person is a great orator, but this is an error we make because there simply are no great orators left from which to compare. Jackson might well have been the last we’ll ever see. His speeches were fiery mixes of rhyme, rhythm, alliteration, philosophy, history lessons, and calls to action. Unlike everyone at this year’s conventions, Jackson knew how to speak in multiple volumes. In one moment his booming baritone would rail at the Gods from the mountaintops. In the next, his silky whisper would make the crowd lean in conspiratorially, as if Jesse was letting us — just us, just the thousand people gathered here today — in on a Secret of the Universe that every other corrupt politician would hide away from us as surely as Olympus did fire.
I was eighteen years old when I saw him speak for the first time. I never stood a chance.
Working on his campaign over the following year or so was nothing short of glorious. There was never a question in my or my colleagues’ hearts — never a single sliver of doubt — that Jesse Jackson would first be the Democratic nominee and then the President of these here United States, single-handedly overturning the Establishment’s apple carts of discord. Such was the electric spirit that flowed through us that we never once doubted that, short of the Crooked Establishment cheating Jesse, he could possibly ever come up short.
My memory of the 1984 Democratic Convention, thirty-two years later, is as crystal clear and as permanently lodged in my brain as is my wedding, the birth of my sons, or the death of my parents.
There was no Internet then, no cable news, no political talk radio. Everything that we knew as we sat in front of that RCA 14-inch black and white television was a scant mixture of a few New York Times op-eds and our own flawed, circular reasoning. There were only two reasonable possibilities as to what would happen, of that we were sure. Jackson would either contest and rightfully be handed the nomination he had been cheated from winning, or he would use his magnificent oratory skills to condemn the Establishment on live television and announce the birth of a new, shining Third Party of the People on the hill.
His enthusiastic endorsement of Walter Mondale was more than a shock; it was a fist to the gut.
Looking back, of course, I now know that the endorsement was always what was going to happen. That speaking on stage that night, armed with a greater degree of power and influence than he’d had a year prior, as he pledged his support for Mondale was always the true end goal. Just as, years from now, that young woman from Vermont will know that Bernie Sanders’ endorsement of Hillary Clinton was always going to happen. It’s a tough nut to swallow, but as with all Pandora’s boxes it comes with a blessing that she is still too close, too young, and too inexperienced to fully comprehend: It will not have been for nothing.
The simple truth is that by their very definition political “Revolutions” in democratic societies never really succeed. For good or ill, the will of the mainstream always prevails in the long run. Worse, those who run the Revolutions from above are well aware of this truth, even as they coax their faithful to believe otherwise. Revolutions in Democracies are built to lose. The only question going in is whether they lose quietly or spectacularly. Still, it’s a very important question.
Because what a Revolution can do is influence the mainstream. A Revolution can take its great and bold ideas and push them deep into the mainstream’s consciousness. Revolutions can, if they are lucky, become mainstream. Thus does Jesse Jackson’s plea to include gays and lesbians in the great “quilt” of liberalism eventually become this “thing that I think we’ve always done.” This does William Buckley’s quiet, sly poking eventually become the seeds for Reagan’s Morning in America. Thus does Annie Arniel’s Quixotic political dream of suffrage lead not to just the 19th Amendment, but to a society where its repeal is all but unthinkable. Thus does Ross Perot, a funny little man most of America mocks, manage to transform the non-issue of the federal deficit into a campaign stump-speech staple.
Which, to a Revolutionary spirit, can admittedly be a somewhat depressing thing. Part of the great pleasure of being counterculture, after all, is… well, being counter culture. A Che Guevara tee-shirt in a capitalist, consumer-driven society is a sexy uniform of the cool class. In a socialist-in-power society, however, it’s as lame as a shirt advertising the delicious, refreshing taste of Coca-Cola. Most of us who have taken part in a political Revolution, if we are being truly honest with ourselves, were inspired by the Revolution itself. A post-victory world? Not so much. Yeah, Bernie’s agenda being adopted into the party platform is nice and all, but that’s not really why we all came to the party. I know this, because I have been there.
And so I do indeed feel for those who so unabashedly shed tears last night. In a way, they are me. Or at least they are a younger, purer, more unscathed version of me. I was not part of their Revolution and I do not stand with them now. But make no mistake: I am of them.
And were I a ghost, I’d have spent all of last night spiriting about the Convention Hall, from teary face to teary face, whispering softly into ears.
“Despair not,” my specter would insist. “This isn’t over. Never forget how this pain feels, right now, in this moment; carry it with you for the battles ahead.”
“But above all, be proud and stand tall. Because even though you can’t see it yet, by every indication you’ve won the day.”
[Image: Screen shot from YouTube video.]
As I noted in my post the other day, I have been particularly interested in this dynamic in 2016 because my daughter was one of these Sanders supporters. It has been her first election that she was passionate and engaged about him in a way that made me proud. My biggest concern as a father, once it became clear that Bernie couldn’t win, was that she would become jaded by the experience (it feels like a good parent should want that fire to stay in their kids’ bellies as long as possible).
If my anecdotal sample of exactly 1 is any indication, Dems are doing a terrible job of bringing those people onto the Clinton train. The worst misstep yesterday was from Sarah Silverman, but you kind of expect that from a comedian that shoots from the hip. It was just such a gross moment of all these kids being told they were ridiculous and to just shut up and play along. I am still wondering, seriously, if this will be a banner year for the Greens. Certainly not the White House, but an impressive performance.Report
Polling indicates 90% of Sanders supporters have switched to Clinton. Which is, IIRC, better than the 2008 Clinton->Obama numbers.Report
This is and accurate, expected, and welcome.
Could we not get competitive on this, making comparisons, starting fights, settling scores? Can we go high, not low?
I really appreciate Bernie’s speech and behavior.Report
Me too, Senator Sanders was by and large a team player all the way (and HRC didn’t exactly rough him up much in return either).Report
Before the campaign season had begun, I saw Sanders on MSNBC, and he was straightforward in acknowledging that he had no chance of prevailing the primary, but his primary goal was to surface his political goals, and to pull the Democratic agenda to the left.
He succeeded magnificently in this task. I think no one was more surprised by his success on the campaign trail than was Sanders himself. Other than a few moments of leaky resentment at the Clinton steamroller, I think he acquitted himself entirely honorably.Report
I wasn’t being competitive, I was giving a recent historical comparison and placing it in context.
Context is kind of important. Is 90% good or bad? I dunno, let’s check the last heavily contested primary and see.Report
The poll that indicates 90% of Sanders supporters switching to Clinton is a little misleading. The poll gave the respondents only a choice between Clinton and Trump, and did not give them an option for Johnson, Stein or staying home and not voting. With polls that have given other options the turnover from Sanders to Clinton is lower (off the top of my head 55-60%). So work still needs to be done to win over the Sanders supporters – which they have already flubbed a few times, while at the same time fighting a battle against the perception that it was “rigged” against Sanders which is being helped by the hacked e-mails and the Politico story about the Hillary for Victory funds being funneled back to the DNC from State Committees in a way that Mondale didn’t have to contend with after winning over Jackson.Report
I simply don’t get why politicians do this to themselves. If your goal is to put up a bunch of speakers who won’t rock the boat and will generate good feelings of unity and common cause, why would you put Sarah Silverman up there? I’m actually surprised she didn’t go more “off script” than she did. And that’s not an indictment of Silverman–I think she’s talented and funny. It’s just that she’s Sarah Silverman. You don’t bring her in to a delicate negotiation and just hope that she won’t say something brutally honest.
Was she selected by the same group that chose Colbert for the White House Correspondents’ Dinner in 2006?Report
On paper, paired up with Franken, who was the funny guy but now is Serious People (said with much respect), it’s an ok plan. You potentially got sort of a variation on the Key & Peele anger translator skit, though I don’t think that’s the direction they took it.
The main downside is that Franken may be a bit too much Boomer and Silverman a bit too much Gen X to really connect with the yutes.Report
Colbert was chosen by GWB, who no one had the heart to tell that “that guy on tv’s acting“Report
Silverman’s admonition seemed incredibly tin-eared to me, too. Everyone’s saying nice things about how much Sanders has accomplished and influenced the party… meanwhile his most passionate supporters are ridiculous.
But everyone seemed to eat it up. Or maybe everyone who already agreed with her ate it up. But that’s definitely some Sanders supporters now (obviously, since she’s one, though I have a bit of a hard time fully crediting her Sanders support as all that passionate when she’s able to turn around and say that with such ease).
I would add (and did on Twitter): if I were one of the holdouts, I think I would be prepared to be called ridiculous by fellow delegates or attendees who are earnest, committed activists or party members like myself. I would have a harder time being called that by a comedian who’s working at this point with Monopoly money in terms of her own material circumstances. I would feel that she’s not really the one with the skin in the game in terms of the class and worker-welfare message Sanders brought to the campaign.Report
My first Presidential election was Bush v. Gore v. Nader in 2000. I did not get the Naderites back then and I don’t get those who were enthralled over Bernie now.
I like Bernie. I like that he ran and pushed HRC to the left. I don’t get the sheer utopianianism of his followers and their seeming belief that electing Bernie Sanders to the White House will make everything excellent. Do they not understand the limits of the executive branch? Do they think Sanders can roll past an oppositional Congress? Many Bernie supporters I know are people with college and advanced degrees!
I was turned off by the messiah aspect of Bernieism. There are no messiahs.
There seem to be a lot of people who don’t treat voting or politics as practical matters but as an avenue for proving how good and pure they are. How holy and untouched by corruption. I’ve honestly never understood the sneer of “lesser of two evils”. The world is complex and resources are limited. Many questions including policy/political questions involves up-sides, down-sides, and trade-offs. Acknowledging this is part of becoming an adult but it seems we have a lot of overgrown kindergarten students.Report
I liked Dean. And Edwards, for that matter.
But I’ve sort of realized, over the decades I’ve been voting, that sometimes my candidate loses. I certainly wouldn’t expect the loser to be able to dictate terms to the winner, nor would it occur to me to vote for someone I was even MORE opposed to out of some weird sense of spite because my preferred candidate lost.
I mean I DO know how to rank things in order of preference.Report
I also think that a lot of Bernie supporters are probably not interested in party politics in general and all the compromises that party politics involve.Report
Holy buckets, so was mine! That was one heck of a way to ring in an election.Report
@north
I think we are the same age. I’m 35.Report
I’m 37, the bleeding boundary between generation X and the millennials. So yeah we’re basically of age.Report
My first election wasn’t officially 2000, (wasn’t old enough to vote), but I stayed up until 2 AM watching the returns. Probably was the 1st building block of my creation as a social democrat who hates radicalism.Report
Becoming politically aware during the first term of Bush II and casting your first vote for John Kerry and Erskine Bowles has a similar effect.Report
A beautiful piece, Tod.
According to polls, very few Sanders supporters aren’t going to vote for Hillary. And by several accounts there weren’t actually that many in the arena last night, but the media loves to “roll in them the way a dog rolls in a dead animal”, to quote a friend on Google+.
However, I like the way you engage with how those people might be feeling right now, and how you felt at a similar moment. That’s real. It’s important.
Pain is the wellspring.Report
A beautiful lie, sadly enough.
The media loves conflict — except when it doesn’t. Palin got booed when she threw down the puck at the Flyers game, and all anyone heard were the canned cheers. (It’s Philly, their sports fans booed Santa Claus)Report
There were ghosts whispering in the halls of the RNC in 2012.
Ghosts whispering in the ears of the people who showed up for Ron Paul (but not for Mitt Romney).
Ghosts whispering in the ears of people who watched 2012 returns hoping for a particular outcome even as they themselves forgot-accidentally-on-purpose to vote that day.
There’s probably some way to tie the new ghostbusters into this as well but I don’t have the strength.Report
“Ghosts whispering in the ears of the people who showed up for Ron Paul (but not for Mitt Romney).”
Ah, the fabled ‘missing white voters’.Report
An excellent post. I agree for the most part. The Democratic Party (and HRC) should be quite grateful to Senator Sanders.Report
My first election was Clinton v. Dole, except I actually didn’t bother voting. I thought neither candidate was worth voting for, but by the same token, neither was worth voting against.
I got a bit of the revolutionary spark with McCain four years later, except by the time I noticed it it was already all over for his campaign. I voted Gore without a whole lot of enthusiasm, but also without much regret, and haven’t seriously considered a Republican candidate since.
Still, by the time Howard Dean came along, I was already well along the road to viewing politicians in a way that was far too cynical to really get invested in them as revolutionary figures. I was enthusiastic about Obama, but that was because I thought his “Hope and Change” line was a brilliant bit of marketing guff to get a competent-seeming but far-from-revolutionary guy with reasonably appealing policies into office. I had a lot of friends who sorta swooned for him, and I remember telling quite a few of them that they were going to end up being pretty disappointed in him in the end. I was mostly right about that.Report
So let’s talk a bit about Jesse Jackson and what he accomplished. Based on what I’m reading in other comments, it seems that some of you all may not be old enough to remember that he was all but written off as a fringe candidate. When Gary Hart self-imploded on the front page of the National Enquirer, suddenly people started paying attention to Jackson because there was no other real alternative to Mondale out there.
Jackson mainstreamed gay rights. I cannot think of a single Presidential candidate before him who specifically reached out to gay and lesbian Americans and said, “There is a place for you at this table, just as you are. Come, join us.”
The phrase “rainbow coalition” has become integrated not just into Democratic party platform statements but into the culture of America itself. Employers, private and public; now regularly make an effort to promote their diversity as an asset and a competitive strength. Educational institutions tout their diverse student bodies as reasons why one should want to attend. And political parties ignore “minority” demographic groups at their electoral peril – the source of substantial angst by Republicans, who find themselves needing to both drive up white voter participation and drive down minority voter participation to remain competitive.
He cast South Africa as a pariah for its apartheid policy. Remember, this was fringe stuff at the time. But Jackson’s push on that issue led to a boycott which lead to sanctions which lead to a (mostly) velvet revolution, Nelson Mandela’s release from prison, and steps towards social justice in that industrialized nation.
Jackson advocated the creation of a separate state of Palestine. The “two-state solution” was still very much in debate at that point. It is now effectively the party line of both major national parties if not precisely a reality just yet.
He proposed not just a “nuclear freeze” but opening negotiations with the Soviet Union towards mutual drawdowns of stockpiles, and writing down the Department of Defense budget by as much as 15%. In 1984, many thought this was not only insanely dangerous but verging upon treason. Two years later, Reykjavik got us this close to a ten-year total disarmament treaty, and four years after that, Congress was salivating at how to spend the “peace dividend.”
Not everything Jackson put in his platform has happened — reinvestment in infrastructure, free community college for everyone, refocusing the war on drugs to catching the money-launderers instead of the users, slave reparations, single-payer health care. But if those things sound familiar, well, they should, because we’re still talking about those ideas in this election cycle. Which tells me that Jackson ’84 is Sanders ’16. So not everything the Berners have been asking for will actually happen, but it does mean that unlike the written-to-be-ignored policy platform adopted by the Republicans last week, Sanders’ platform fight has a good chance to orient the ideological future of the Democratic party leftward — at exactly a time that Republicans are seemingly in a state of historic disarray.Report
Jackson is nothing but a race hustler. Steve Sailer says so.Report
Thanks for this, @burt-likko . I knew he’s a badass (I know one when I see one), but I didn’t know all these deets.
He’s always seemed like a really decent fellow, as well. And on top of his game. When the sad business with Jesse Jr. came down, my main thoughts, as bad as I felt for Jesse Jr.’s immediate family, were for Rev. Jackson having to shepherd his son through that. I bet he’s done it as well as it can be done, though. I’d actually really love to see a deeply reported piece on the fallout there, but obviously I understand why they would not grant access for it.Report
The two state solution will never actually happen.
Israel is threatening to assassinate the leaders of a peaceful boycott, for god’s sake.
Which, yanno, ordinarily — if Turkey threatens someone, or Australia — they don’t got a history.
But Mossad’s got a history of doing things extrajudicially.Report
This thread may be as good a place as any to ask — has Bernie Sanders done enough to pull those very vocal, very dedicated from among his supporters back into the mainstream Democratic fold? I realize that the large majority of Sanders voters are rank-and-file voters, who will quickly and without a lot of rancor be pleased to vote for Clinton. I’m asking about the leaders, the true believers, the ones with lots of energy and idealism. The ones Our Tod describes here as grappling with tough emotions and deep disappointment. Are those people going to need an election away from the Democratic party before they direct their zeal towards a Democratic candidate?Report
The Youth have always had problems when it comes to turning out.
My gut feel from what I’ve seen is that Bernie did enough to make the lion’s share *NOT* vote for Trump, but I don’t know that they’ll show up in numbers that will be called “energized” come election day.
But I do think that he forestalled a “Since We Can’t Bern It Up, We’ll Burn It Down” movement (defined as more than, oh, 12% going to show up to vote for Trump).
That said, we’ve a long summer in front of us and there might be a lot of weird things that make it to the front pages in Europe and/or the US.Report
Let us all pray and hope that there is no further violence. Rebound effects on American politics aside.Report
Pretty much. Polling says about 90% of Sander’s supporters have switched. Given Sanders’ strongest demographics are also the least likely to turnout to vote, that 10% will hurt HRC even less than it seems.
I don’t think she’s counting on a huge youth swell over, say 2012.
While I kvetched about Sanders dragging it out, I have no problems saying when he finally conceded, he went in all in on the party and the big picture. Ain’t nothing to criticize there.Report
Even before Monday, the polls and evidence showed that the overwhelming majority of Sanders supporters said that they would vote for Clinton. The remainders were just very loud in their displeasure.
My guess is that some of these people were never part or fond of the Democratic Party. Salon’s H.A. Goodman was a Rand Paul supporter who switched to Sanders. Lee would point out that the farther left never really joined in with the Democratic Party like the farther right did with the GOP.
Anecdotally, some of the hardest Bernie or Busters I know are posting a Shaun King thing on FB where King said he is joining with Sanders and voting for HRC. Sanders did the anti-Cruz.Report
has Bernie Sanders done enough to pull those very vocal, very dedicated from among his supporters back into the mainstream Democratic fold?
Well, no. Of course not. His candidacy was based on a whole bunch of policy planks and ideological commitments that aren’t Democratic. In my view, the people he appealed to, especially the most rabid, weren’t ever “in the Democratic fold” to begin with.
Another way to say it may be this: Bernie gave a whole bunch of people a liberal-while-not-Dem platform to enthusiastically, rather than reluctantly, support. I think the Dems have been floating untethered for quite a while, and Bernie sorta brought that home. To Berners, anyway.
(A mini-rant aside: I’ve had it up to my eyeballs with pro-Hillary cranks who continue to complain about Berners. It’s an effing democracy, people! If you want more unity you shoulda endorsed a more unifying candidate!)Report
To whether he’s done enough to move that wing of his voters I can only say who knows?
I would say, however, that Bernie has done everything he practically could and all that anyone could realistically ask him to do. HRC/Democratic partisans should have no complaints about him at this point in my opinion.Report
I was a true believer for Howard Dean in 2004. After his run abruptly ended, a lot of people went back to the anti-war movement from whence they came. Others, bloggers especially, got mainstreamed quickly and turned upstart support into a real place at the table. Dean himself ran the party.
I don’t know if people are more alienated now, if the establishment is more rarefied or if the other outlets for political expression are too chaotic and diffuse to channel that energy toward useful ends. Maybe it would have been like this if Dean got as close as Sanders did. Maybe Dean was not such a departure from the Democratic mainstream. Either way, you’re right that this is far from new.Report
And then there are the people who realize they’ve been played, co opted, or watched their candidate “sell out” and they come to understand outsiders never win and they were used and cast aside. That the promises and rhetoric was just words and all they achieved was a change to a platform that no one pays attention to anyway.
They’ll always remember they were used.
(This is not a personal anecdote)Report
Then, even later, they come to understand what President Obama realized that Candidate Obama didn’t.
If you shift the tiller of the ship 1% now, the ship moves 1% that direction every year from then on. The R’s certainly understand this with their conscious manipulation of the Overton Window.
Incrementalism works, if you stick with it. But only if you stick with it.Report
Indeed. As you said, you have to stick with it. That is why indeed, the ship of state of significantly “off course”, so much so that righting it won’t correct things soon enough. Gonna have to wait until the ship runs aground.
But your assumptions is that those elected work to “stick with it” and refraining from short term compromises that work at cross purposes to the “goal”. That’s not something I expect. I expect short term focus and “say what I have to get elected” and working back room deals. Selling out–your self, your staff, your voters, all are par for the course with politicians.Report
Someone actually interviewed the ”robin hood Bernie bro“ crying guy that was making a lot memes, and he said he was crying because he was proud of Sanders bringing the party together and pushing the movement into the mainstream where things get done. He also mentioned in passing, and this is not a joke, that he had another run-in recently with internet fame because he pulled a woman out of a burning car. What a world.Report
1. There was some big leaps with Party Unity overall. The Democratic Convention is striving to be the convention of inclusion and Conor F (no friend to the Democratic Party notes this):
http://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2016/07/donald-trumps-threats-against-minorities-are-unifying-democrats/493004/
2. Still there was also a walk-up among die-hard Bernie supporters and I see memes on how Bernie was betrayed by his party. Said memes ignore that Bernie only became a Democratic Party member last year. Bernie is strong enough to unite behind Clinton. What is up with his supporters? Do they want the world to burn?Report
Do they want the world to burn?
Do you think that they must be Donald Trump fans, secretly?
Perhaps even White Supremacist sympathizers?Report
Matt Yglesias took a stab at voxsplaining it, and I think he’s onto something.
They may be coming from a different kind of activism, the kind where you make yourself a pain in the ass by repeatedly drawing attention to the problem you want fixed in a disruptive way. I.e., “protesting”.
It’s not a bad thing in and of itself. It’s just a crappy fit for party politics.Report
When they’re kids, they’re still all about principles and fairness. God bless ’em. I wouldn’t have it any other way.
They will have the naivety ground out of them over the next decade or so and then they get to support someone who is more of a realist and then get irritated when the next Nader/Dean/Sanders shows up and all of the yutes devote themselves to this wonderful utopian message instead of doing the hard work involved in Straightening Up and Flying Right and doing the much more cynical work involved of making real-life sausages instead of pies in the sky.Report
Social Justice is the opiate of the masses.Report
“It will not have been for nothing.”
That’s precisely the problem.Report
That it was for nothing, or that it was not for nothing?
Everything changes, all things corrode,
And when you get right down to it, it’s a numbers game.
Fifty years later, America will be able to support about 200 million people.
Gasoline prices will be higher, it will be more difficult to ship food in.
Who gets to die? And how?Report
I’ve watched several conventions. I cant remember the runner up getting this much love ever, even 2008. So yeah, hilldawg and the party reached out hard. And bernie has grasped that hand tight, and thrown himself into a new fight. With a movement meeting early August.
The bern is in his last fight people. Beware old men with principles. They hear footsteps behind them and wish to make a lasting impact before the curtain comes down.Report
Thanks for this my TOD, 1984 was my first election to vote and I remember the same excitement about Jackson followed by the same disappointment. Going back farther I’m surprised I vote at all. My Dad was an elector for Eugene McCarthy in 1976, in 1980 we had a blackboard up following the primaries on TV Carter represented by a peanut, Bob Dole a banana (don’t judge I was 14) can’t remember what we had for Regan probably a monkey a’la bedtime for BonzoReport
I read stories like this and can only conclude I’ve never been young, or I was born cynical. Unbridled faith in and enthusiasm for a politician has always seemed a bit disturbing, almost being a matter of religion rather than politics.Report
Todd: “Just as I understand those that chanted “We Trusted You!” to a soft-spoken Sen. Warren. ”
I understand them; they have zero clue.Report
…so when does the opposing of empire & the changing of the US’s posture towards the rest of the world to peace & humility become mainstream?Report
either way, I’m not holding my breath over the upcoming 4 yearsReport