Own Goals, Email Servers and Classified Documents

Philip H

Philip H is an oceanographer who makes his way in the world trying to use more autonomy to sample and thus understand the world's ocean. He's a proud federal scientist, husband, father, woodworker and modelrailroader. The son of a historian and public-school teacher and the nephew and grandson of preachers, he believes one of his greatest marks on the world will be the words he leaves behind. To that end he writes here at OT and blogs very occasionally at District of Columbia Dispatches. Philip's views are definitely his own, and in no way reflect the official or unofficial position of any agency he works for now or has worked for in his career. If you disagree, take it up with him, not Congress.

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  1. Michael Cain says:

    They prove that old white men, and sometimes old white women, need to get really invested in the 21st Century where most anything you do online will exist until the end of time.

    It seems to be something about being rich and/or powerful. In the Microsoft antitrust case back in the late 1990s, it was clear that the senior executives at MS didn’t care that e-mail was discoverable written material in court cases. They committed all sorts of incriminating statements to e-mail. And these were the big tech bros of the day, who damned well should have known better.

    Because of lifelong habit I read through every e-mail one last time before I hit send. While the big problem today is my fingers have developed a homonym habit, there’s one corner of my mind that’s asking if I really want to put that in writing.Report

  2. Chip Daniels says:

    I’ll go out on a limb and say that this will fail to stick, like the “Twitter Files”.

    To clarify, by “fail to stick”, I mean have any measurable impact on public opinion. The battle isn’t for the hearts and minds of committed partisans, but for the hearts and minds of the low information apolitical voter.
    And this slice is remarkably tiny, worth at most a couple points in any given election.

    Biden and Trump are fixed, well known quantities, the brands of both Democrats and Republicans are very well entrenched.

    In this particular episode, the Democrats have a simple and clear message- Trump not only took the documents, but refused to give them back. Biden gave them back promptly when asked. The Republicans don’t really have any sort of coherent message here.

    In a larger sense though, I think its becoming harder and harder to make any sort of scandal really stick.

    The Trump years have sort of normalized freakish and depraved behavior.Report

  3. Pinky says:

    Black people are even worse.

    (What, Rice and Powell are black, right?)Report

  4. Saul Degraw says:

    I saw a metaphor that I thought made sense: Biden was caught going ten miles above the speed limit because he was not paying attention. Trump was caught after leading the cops on a wild chase because he killed another cop after said cop found his trunk was filled with meth.

    This won’t stop the media from trying to both sides because it is deeply in their blood.Report

  5. Dark Matter says:

    RE: Clinton
    There seems to have been no reason for the home server to exist except to shield her from lawsuits which require her to hand over emails for her borderline criminal activities. However agreed, this didn’t quite step over the line.

    RE: Biden’s emails
    Unlike Trump, he and his team didn’t escalate this. They handed over the docs without a pissing match.Report

  6. Jaybird says:

    I don’t “crow” about the loss of trust in institutions.

    I point it out to people who deny it, then explain how it’s not anybody’s fault, and then try to diffuse the responsibility among everyone making it everyone’s fault.

    I imagine we’ll hit “but it’s good actually!” at some point.Report

  7. Jaybird says:

    Putin’s mouthpiece Adam Schiff has put on the red hat and attacked our Commander in Chief on ABC News and in Pravda, probably, by saying:

    “We have asked for an assessment in the intelligence community of the Mar-a-Lago documents,” Schiff said. “I think we ought to get that same assessment of the documents found in the think tank as well as the home of President Biden. I’d like to know what these documents were. I’d like to know what the [intelligence community’s] assessment is, whether there was any risk of exposure and what the harm would be and whether any mitigation needs to be done.”

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  8. Jaybird says:

    Pete Strzok, a Georgetown School of Foreign Service adjunct professor and alum, has reached the obvious conclusion:

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