The Nationwide Ground Stop Explained
I didn’t think I’d have a chance to write today. I was supposed to be flying.
I got to the airport early this morning and we prepped the airplane. As is our normal procedure, I contacted the local air traffic control and picked up our departure clearance prior to the arrival of the passengers. So far, so good.
When our passengers arrived, we started the engines and taxied out, only to find ourselves victims of today’s nationwide ground stop.
“Right after you called,” the controller told us, “we got a message that said there is a total nationwide ground stop. I haven’t seen anything like this in 20 years.”
He went on to say that there would be an update at 9:30 am local time, about two hours away at that point, but that he didn’t know if flights would be released then or if the ground stop would be extended.
We returned to our hangar and discussed the situation with our passengers. As part of a corporate flight department, our passengers often have somewhat flexible schedules and ours ended up canceling the trips for the day, but airline schedules have been thrown into chaos. It may take the rest of the day for the airlines to catch up.
So what happened?
A ground stop is just what it sounds like. ATC holds aircraft, particularly flights on instrument flight plans, on the ground rather than letting them take off. Airlines and corporate jets use IFR (instrument flight rules) flight plans almost exclusively, even when the weather is nice because they allow for more efficient handling through controlled airspace and are required for flights above 18,000 feet.
Local ground stops are not uncommon. In most cases, they are related to weather issues that might temporarily cause airports to be unable to accept arrivals and/or departures. Sometimes they are caused by an excessive volume of aircraft. This can happen during special events and isn’t unusual for Florida in the winter when a lot of airplanes are competing for a limited amount of airspace.
Today’s ground stop was a national one, however. That is extremely rare. In fact, the only nationwide ground stop that I have ever heard of was the one that followed the terrorist attacks on September 11, 2001.
The ground stop was reportedly caused by problems with an FAA computer that processes NOTAMs. “NOTAM” is the term for Notices to Air Missions (formerly Notices to Airmen but several years ago the Biden Administration changed it to a gender-neutral term in one of its more inane actions). NOTAMs are notices that could affect a flight. These range from notifications about runway closures to alerts about cranes (the big mechanical ones, not the birds) in the vicinity of airports to outages of lights on obstructions.
Pilots are required to check NOTAMs before flight to determine whether any of these notifications would affect the safety of their flight. Although we were able to see the NOTAMs that pertained to our flight this morning, the FAA apparently decided to shut down flights nationwide out of an abundance of caution. The failure of the computer may have prevented NOTAMs from being disseminated to some sources, but it definitely prevented new NOTAMs from being issued. This could affect the safety of some flights.
Although there was some speculation that the outage might have been due to hackers, the White House said that there was no evidence that the problem was related to a cyber attack. It is more likely that the problem is a result of either an antiquated computer system or a software bug. Similar problems have caused flight delays in the past but not on a nationwide scale.
The irony is that the vast majority of NOTAMs are viewed as nuisance items by most pilots. At large airports, the sheer number of NOTAMs can be overwhelming and most of these items are required to be listed by the FAA bureaucracy but don’t really affect the majority of flights.
For example, a large metropolitan airport can have pages and pages of NOTAMs for items like cranes and lights on towers that are out of service. These nuisance NOTAMs can be so numerous that it can be easy to miss important items like runway closures and Temporary Flight Restrictions (TFRs) that can often pop up quickly in the post-9/11 world.
Back in 2010, Senator James Inhofe (R-Okla.) got into trouble related to the antiquated NOTAM system. Inhofe, who just left office last week, was also a pilot. After a flight to Cameron County, Texas, Inhofe landed on a closed runway, frightening several airport employees who were working on the runway at the time. He apparently either did not check the NOTAMs prior to his flight or didn’t check them closely enough. Inhofe introduced a bill to update the NOTAM system after that incident (although the big yellow x on the runway should have also been a clue that he should not have landed there), but 13 years later we still have similar problems.
Today’s computer outage was a tremendous inconvenience across the country, but it masks a more serious and systemic problem with the NOTAM system. Even though the computers are back online, pilots are still inundated with reams of mostly useless information about every flight. But that information still has to be carefully checked to find the nuggets of critical safety information in the mounds of worthless garbage that is the notifications that read like these:
KATL 01/122 ATL OBST TOWER LGT (ASR 1020081) 333739.40N0841740.60W (6.7NM E ATL) 1195.2FT (284.1FT AGL) U/S (Unserviceable) 2301062352-2301210500
[This one warns about inoperate lights on a tower near Atlanta.]
KATL 12/277 ATL OBST CRANE (ASN 2021-ASO-1859-NRA) 333742N0842520W (0.6NM SSE ATL) 1139FT (160FT AGL) FLAGGED AND LGTD 2212131437-2301142300
[This one warns about a construction crane.]
KATL 12/458 ATL AD AP BIRD ACT INCREASED 2212301807-2301312359
[This one warns about increased bird activity, which may or may not include avian cranes.]
So, thanks to the FAA, I’ve got the day off, but I’ll have to get up early tomorrow to salvage the back end of the trip that was supposed to start today. At least I’ll be able to rest assured that if someone suddenly erects a crane alongside the runway, I’ll know about it.
So, from the left hand seat, what’s the solution?Report
“Although there was some speculation that the outage might have been due to hackers, the White House said that there was no evidence that the problem was related to a cyber attack.” Doubtful anyone would admit was WAS a hacker if it was. Can you imagine the news reports, public reaction? Sure, they might bury the lead 6 months from now on a news day to guarantee it won’t make the headlines.Report
According to Twitter, it’s all Pete Buttigeg’s fault.Report
As a private pilot, I will confirm that most NOTAMs look like that, and then there’s the ones that define the NO-FLY zone for presidential visits. They are kind of important…
As a programmer/systems engineer, I think the solution would be to have not one, but two servers, located in different parts of the country. Both with onsite power backup (I’m sure the single system has that). It should be easy enough for all the receiving software to eliminate duplicates, since they would be exact duplicates.
Mind you, this would cost money. Of course, not nearly as much money as the mainframes they probably still have cost them once upon a time, but still money.Report
Heaven forbid someone change the term ‘Airmen’ in an extremely confusing government acronym that has literally nothing to do with actual ‘Airmen’, whjch, I remind people, is a rank for members of the Air Force.
Yes, I know the FAA sometimes likes to calls pilots that, and it’s _incredibly_ stupid. We have a word for pilots: It’s ‘pilots’.
I’m sure you’re trying to imply the renaming was due to some sort of ‘political correctness run amuck’, but ‘Notices to Airmen’ is literally one of the stupidest and most misleading government acronyms I’ve ever seen.
Oh, but wait, let’s pause for a second. Before we believe the Biden Administration changed this, we should probably remember that conservatives lie about things they complain about, and so…we should probably check if Biden had anything to do with this at all.
Well, it was changed under the recommendation of the NOTAM Improvement Panel, a panel created in 2018. Okay, but…maybe the FAA has changed that panel direction under Biden’s appointee, or agreed with it only because…no, wait: https://www.cnn.com/2023/01/11/politics/phil-washington-faa-issues/index.html
Biden has not put someone in place someone to run the FAA. And, yes, his current nominee is bad, I will preemptively agree with that, and he _shouldn’t_ be put in! But that doesn’t change the fact that the person running the agency is not only not a political appointee, but appears to have just agreed to recommendations from a panel that was created by not-Biden…in fact, it was created by a law signed under a Republican Senate and President!
Why did I even bother to look this information up? Well, because I like pointing out how conservatives are basically making all of their grievances up, in a very fractal way, and even really trivial things like ‘The Biden administration renamed something’, a complaint here that almost seems like a joke and that almost no one should even have an objection to to start with…often turn out not to be true anyway.Report
Last Night, there was a high-level governmental meeting.
Spent two hours discussing pronouns.
One of the participants decided his identity was trans-French.
This is LESS getting done than under the Trump Administration, when the entire meetings were filled with people discussing “who hates Trump the most.”
I object to “Nothing Getting Done” under any administration. The Nationwide Ground Stop is less than nothing getting done — it is stuff actively going wrong.Report
Why did you have to ‘discuss’ pronouns instead of just listing them off?
I ask, pretending that ‘Last Night, there was a high-level governmental meeting.’ is a way that anyone who had actually been involved in a real meeting would phrase things that way, or that you are a real person who actually comments here instead of some weird misinformation trolling.
But pretending you are: You do realized the Nationwide Ground Stop had literally nothing to do with any of your complaints, and instead is due to failure to actually invest and modernize governmental system? Instead operating outdated tech until it literally broke. I mean, perhaps that is the fault of the Biden administration, but it’s nothing to do with your weird complaints about pronouns.
And to be clear, the blame probably should go back farther in time, and no I’m _not_ going to blame Trump, despite what DD probably thinks…Trump did something, if only to sign a law to make a panel to create recommendations, which is not really solving the problem but at least is sorta doing something. But clearly the system should have been fixed much, MUCH earlier…just from my brief looking into this, from what others with with actually experience of this have said, the entire NOTAM system has been a mess for _decades_. This is a place where the entire government has ignored very obvious problems for a very very long time.
But sure, this is somehow the fault of Biden and people talking about pronouns.Report
Who said I was in the meeting?
I am not sure why it takes two entire hours to discuss them. It’s certainly not because certain people insist on being addressed as “frog” and “frogself” — the assertion of that identity seemed to take about two minutes, at which point the rest of the room moved on to “talking with anyone else,” perhaps because the resident brainiac had just announced that he would start communicating using the Royal We.
As I’m not aware of the nature of the meeting, I cannot say whether it had anything to do with the nationwide ground stop (the nature of the outage is not something I am confident about. Certainly not nearly as confident as you seem to be, Mr. Smug). It very well might have been a mitigation meeting to do something about CozyBear — or revenge from Germany or England, both of whom have reason to have us on their hitlist.
Critiquing the Deep State does not actually mean that I’m upset at your Team.
Trump’s not at fault for everyone hating him and wasting meeting time on that.
Biden’s not at fault for everyone doing the pronoun dance.Report
Hey, question: How exactly do you know this meeting happened ‘Last night’, and very detailed information about it, but don’t even appear to know the vague topic or even _branch_ of government it was in?
Indeed, how do you know what ‘entire meetings’ were like under Trump when, again, you don’t even seem to have the vaguest idea of _where_ these meetings were or what they would be about?
Is it because you are someone with absolutely no connection to the truth at all and are literally just making things up or repeating right-wing talking points you heard?
Yeah, see, this site doesn’t actually tolerate people just making things up, even if they pretend to be ‘centrists’ or whatever. (Of course, it sure is weird how both sets of people you have decided to invent criticize would clearly be on the left, despite you _pretending_ otherwise.)
You’re going to get called out pretty much constantly for this nonsense.Report
(Not sure why comments aren’t posting. 3.0 is here to save the day!)
I wasn’t in the meeting. If you listen to my description of the meeting, it should sound an awful lot like “what your local jagoff says to the bartender.” AKA: one person’s perspective that I trust implicitly. If I was the bartender, I wouldn’t be posting this.
I know what branch of the government my best friend works for. Doesn’t particularly mean I know everyone who attends any given meeting…
If you want to hear it as “She’s criticizing the Left!” then you haven’t gotten me started on GWB lately… He was a boon to industrial security teams, because he sliced through the FBI and CIA like a knife through hot butter. It was better to be a Known Democrat then, because at least you could be written off. Being a principled Republican just got you fired.Report
A teeny bit of googling reveals that “frogself” traces back to an episode of a right-wing comedy and parody show called “Louder with Crowder.” (Recall that Stephen Crowder is the guy sitting at the table in the now much-parodied “Change my Mind” meme, which should give you an idea of how not-seriously you should be taking this guy.)
Crowder, in turn, seems to have got it from a tweet by Libs of TikTok in September of 2022: https://twitter.com/libsoftiktok/status/1566474143939366913?lang=en. While we might choose to concede arguendo that the root video may well have been sincere rather than being itself a parody, it seems fair to say that this is a pretty extreme outlier that was selected for circulation because it appears weird, and not because it is typical of anything.
If you want to be taken seriously in claiming that this sort of thing is actually being used to gum up the workings of government, please provide a link to an actual video of an actual person actually taking two minutes in an actual meeting of an actual public entity in which this person actually explains the need for others to use “frogself” pronouns.Report
When Bart Simpson says “Call us Frog/Frogself” he is not trying to gum up the meeting.
The meeting has already gone to heck in a handbasket.
He’s just trying to be enough of a pest to avoid being called on for the rest of the meeting.
In short: two hours of discussion of pronouns was not Bart’s Fault. It was Lisa’s, and you should know better.Report
It’s just like when people talked about Trump’s FDA being bad, and it turned out that most of the FDA management had been in place since the Obama administration, and all those people who’d blamed everything on Trump immediately turned around and apologized, right?Report
I have no idea what you’re talking about with ‘Trump’s FDA specifically being bad’, I can’t actually remember a single post or comment about the FDA that blamed their utter failure at many different things on _Trump_ as opposed to their general capture by industry and deliberate bureaucratic nonsense designed to make it hard for small companies to jump though, but, sure, let’s pretend that ‘Trump has made the FDA bad!’ also was a claimed thing and thus was also wrong.Report
There, see, even the anti-vax loons don’t blame ‘Trump’s FDA’!Report
How many systems do we have that were built by exceptionally smart people to be maintained by exceptionally smart people and run by very smart people?
And what would happen if merely very smart people started maintaining these systems and only average people ran them?
What would that look like? Would it look like this?Report
That’s not the issue – the issue is federal IT is repleat with lots of stuff bought big because Congress wants it bought big, but not funded for unsexy maintenance or upgrade. Cutting ribbons for a new thing is sexy. And when Congress changes hands or the White House changes hands, political emphasis changes as well. O&M looses out.
Plus keeping really smart people is tough – Google or Meta can pay people 6 or 7 times what we pay for the same job.
That’s what has to be fixed, not smart versus average people.Report
I hope you’re right. Because if we’re in a place where we are very good at writing documents explaining that we’re changing from using THIS word to THAT one and we are starting to lose people who know how to run stuff like water plants or airplane software, then we’re going to start seeing stuff that presents identically to this stuff.
But it’s nice to know that this is just a problem with funding.
Like school districts, I guess.Report
Where are you getting this idea that “we” are losing people who know how to run stuff?
This sounds an awful lot like a “these kids today” rant.Report
Stuff like in the story we’re commenting on. Like, there was a software-related nationwide ground stop?
I also made an oblique reference to the Jackson, Mississippi water crisis from earlier in the year. The Army Corps of Engineers said that one of the biggest problems was failure to maintain it.
Stuff like that is where I’m getting the idea from.Report
C’mon.
You have to know that this makes no logical sense, right?
Since the beginning of time, buildings collapsed, trains collided, ships sunk, planes crashed, and software glitches happened.
These things all happened due to user error, design failures, maintenance deferment, the same things that caused this problem.Report
I guess that things fall apart. It’s silly to think that centers could hold.Report
Boy the way Glenn Miller played
Songs that made the Hit Parade
Guys like us we had it made
Those were the days!
And you knew what you were then
Girls were girls and men were men
Mister we could use a man like Herbert Hoover again
Didn’t need no welfare state
Everybody pulled their weight
Boy our old La Salle ran great
Those were the days!Report
For what its worth, I think Phillip H is right here. Building things attracts attention- it gives politicians an opportunity to show off that they’re “getting things done”. But nobody gets photo ops for maintenance – people just assume something will work forever until it actually fails and its easy to assume you won’t be in office any more by the time that actually happens.Report
That would be reassuring.
I mean, it would mean that we could prevent stuff like this happening before it happened, if we wanted to.Report
Let me third that. During my time on a legislative staff, I came to the conclusion that maintenance in general is hard to get funded, and software maintenance in particular is very hard.Report
Likewise.
Virtually any building over 20 years old has a long long list of deferred maintenance items and items that are years beyond their service life but held together with duct tape and layers of paint.
For that matter, I would bet money that not a single person here drives a car that doesn’t have deferred maintenance.
Yet when the inevitable happens and a car breaks down or building’s furnace stops working, everyone acts like it is some freakish unforeseeable calamity.
Because well, that’s human nature.Report
I would bet money that not a single person here drives a car that doesn’t have deferred maintenance.
There’s “I should get my oil changed this week” kind of deferred maintenance and there’s “I should have gotten my oil changed last month” kind of deferred maintenance and then there’s “I find that black electrical tape placed in the right spot completely blocks the ‘check engine’ light” deferred maintenance.Report
This is not limited to the public sector. Maintenance is deemed unsexy and dowdy. Maintenance is your spouse of decades. Building new things is a new f++k toy.Report
Axios has an article written by Alexi McCammond (domestic partner of TJ Ducklo) explaining how this isn’t Buttigeig’s fault:
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Sorry, just like the president, who gets to take credit for a good economy which started during the last president’s time, he takes the blame for a bad one….Same goes for Administrators for gov’t. Don’t like it, don’t take the job.
“It’s not my fault, it happened under the prior admin” should always be answered with “you own it now, fix it”.Report
He can’t fix it without Congressional permission and appropriations.Report
So what? Then he can damn well issue a press release saying he’s going to be doing that and an outline of what he’s putting before Congress.Report
When the President’s budget comes out the first Tuesday of February I’m sure DOT will. We just got out Appropriation for this year three weeks ago – the Departments have yet to release their allocations yet.Report
While it’s easy to criticize each administration after it fails to fix things (which I think is what everyone is trying to say, it’s not the failure of the current administration but all previous ones, which means it will become the Biden’s administration’s failure also when they fail to do something about it) , a lot of it is that there simply isn’t enough money budgeted for things that the government is trying to do.
Yes, in hindsight we can say that they should have picked this one particular issue, and made a big fuss about it and maybe it would have been done, but the problem is there a dozens and dozens of issues like that, and the government can’t magically predict which one is about to fail.
And it didn’t help them a certain political party has decided to pretend that all government spending is evil, and the other political party has decided to almost go along with that.
It really would be interesting if the president spent the entire time in office, with him, and each of the cabinet positions, constantly screaming to the media about how every single aspect of their department was poorly maintained and underfunded, but I have a feeling that wouldn’t actually result in anything. Congress really is going to have to just decide to fix this, to actually ask the hard questions how much it’s going to cost to maintain the things we already have, and maintain new things…and then be willing to pay it.Report
“a lot of it is that there simply isn’t enough money budgeted for things that the government is trying to do.”
And just who is responsible for that? Where do you think Congress gets the amounts used in budget requests? From the administrators. )I assume they specify what they want to use it for and have to deal with getting some, none, nor all they money they want.) But none of that matters. How much they get is irrelevant. They own the relevant problems. They are responsible for fixing those problems. That they are not fixed is the their fault because they are responsible. Hell, it’s shitty but sorry. I wanted into a new job and my boss and the next most senior person quite 3 months later. Guess who now has to “own” certain stuff? Me. Thems the breaks. Deal. Fix it.Report
“”NOTAM’ is the term for Notices to Air Missions (formerly Notices to Airmen but several years ago the Biden Administration changed it to a gender-neutral term in one of its more inane actions).”
How does this change harm you? Please point to where you are hurt on the doll.Report