CDC: COVID Lingering Effects A Drag on Life Expectancy

Andrew Donaldson

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  1. Jaybird says:

    Instead of getting (yet) (another) Moderna booster, I got the Novavax. Side effects were minimal (the Moderna knocked me out the next day) and hey. So far so good. Ask your doctor if Novavax is right for you.Report

    • Michael Cain in reply to Jaybird says:

      I got the latest Pfizer a few weeks ago. Also got my flu shot at the same time, same arm. Nothing except the usual injection site discomfort the next day (muscle tissue does not like having fluids forced into it). Well, and no Covid or flu. During a recent Covid outbreak at the memory care center, my wife tested positive but had no symptoms.Report

      • fillyjonk in reply to Michael Cain says:

        I had fewer side effects with the “new” Pfizer than any previous shots (other than the very first one). I am presuming that’s because the proteins this one targets are quite different than the previous ones. The worst reaction was july 2022, the “OG forumula” third booster (got the bivalent in November 2022)

        I currently have a couple students isolating with COVID, it’s definitely still out there. Based on reports in her area, my 87-year-old-but-fully-vaccinated mom has gone back to masking out in public. I’m not quite there yet myself where I live but if she does when I’m up at Christmas i will tooReport

  2. DavidTC says:

    No other wealthy country experienced so high a rate of death per capita from covid.

    Hey, question for everyone: What percentage do you think the excess deaths were caused by vaccine denier and anti-maskers, and what percentage are just the fault of our really crappy healthcare system where a large percentage of people end up waiting until they have to go to the emergency room for care, and what percentage are the fault of the government for not actually rolling out systematic ways to deal with infection like contact tracing and actual real lockdowns that other wealthy countries did?

    I mean, we’re really bad compared to other wealthy nations at dealing with covid in at least three ways: Personal stupidity and selfishness about disease prevention, political stupidity that keeps us from actually fixing healthcare at any time in the past, and political stupidity that kept us from doing anything during Covid. What had the most impact?

    We’ll probably never know the answer, but it’s an interesting question.Report

    • Pinky in reply to DavidTC says:

      Excess deaths, mostly panic and despair. Unemployment, drug use, people not going to the doctor. Covid deaths, I think we’re basically tied with the UK and Italy, with a few other countries nearby. The likely answer is reporting standards.Report

    • DensityDuck in reply to DavidTC says:

      “what percentage are the fault of the government for not actually rolling out systematic ways to deal with infection like contact tracing and actual real lockdowns that other wealthy countries did?”

      (none of those things actually worked. every country saw the same COVID surge, just at different times.)Report

      • DensityDuck in reply to DensityDuck says:

        as for “what SHOULD we have done then”, what we should have done was what President Donald J Trump suggested: mail everybody a check for two thousand dollars and tell them to stay home for two weeks. And it says so much about this country’s government that the biggest bipartisan consensus in Congress of the past twenty years was that we should not do that, and that both sides spent twenty-five hours a day for three months working out exactly how to not do that.

        I mean, you had Nancy Peloci and Mitch McConnell do the clasping-hands meme with the caption “the worst thing imaginable would be if we sent money to someone who Didn’t Deserve It”.Report