WWJD about Christian Nationalism?

David Thornton

David Thornton is a freelance writer and professional pilot who has also lived in Georgia, Florida, Kentucky, South Carolina, Tennessee, and Texas. He is a graduate of the University of Georgia and Emmanuel College. He is Christian conservative/libertarian who was fortunate enough to have seen Ronald Reagan in person during his formative years. A former contributor to The Resurgent, David now writes for the Racket News with fellow Resurgent alum, Steve Berman, and his personal blog, CaptainKudzu. He currently lives with his wife and daughter near Columbus, Georgia. His son is serving in the US Air Force. You can find him on Twitter @CaptainKudzu and Facebook.

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  1. The Pharisees are known almost entirely by what their enemies wrote about them, and it’s as accurate a picture as you’d expect from that.Report

    • LeeEsq in reply to Mike Schilling says:

      Jews have been trying to educate people on what the Pharisees really taught for a long time and have not met with much success in this endeavor. To us Jews the Pharisees were the forerunners of Rabbinic Judaism. To everybody else, a bunch of hidebound purity freaks.Report

  2. Philip H says:

    My prayer is that common sense and love break out in the American church before someone does something stupid and lights off a civil war. My prayer is that God’s love breaks out within the church.

    “Prayer without action is no prayer at all. You have to do your work as if everything depends on you. Then leave the rest to God.” Mother Teresa”

    Most Christians are indeed repelled by Christian Nationalism. Most of the mainline denominations have publicly denounced it. But few are as willing to be as forceful about it as the Christian Nationalists. And that unwillingness – born out of many Christian perspectives including Christ’s Second Great Commandment – leaves too much space for the apostates inhabiting the Christian Nationalist space. So we who claim the yoke and mantle have to continually denounce these folks, while preparing for their inevitable fall.Report

  3. Pinky says:

    It seems like you’re begging the question here, though. You set out to analyze “an insurrection against the duly-elected federal government” and find it unjust, but obviously your opponent wouldn’t accept that framing. I’m not saying this to defend the Christian Nationalist position, but to defend the just war doctrine in general.

    The first three principles you listed are generally given as conditions for entering a war: just cause, last resort, and public authority. If you believe that the election was stolen and there will never be another fair election in the US, then the first two conditions are met. As for public authority, that’s a tough condition to meet for any revolution or independence movement. (There’ve been some interesting arguments on both sides regarding the American Revolution.)

    The last three conditions generally pertain to conduct within a war. But since there’s no war, you can’t really argue that they’ve been violated.

    And that’s where I end up. If you’re trying to make the argument Christian Nationalism is violating its own principles, this argument won’t do it.Report

    • Chip Daniels in reply to Pinky says:

      The JW Doctrine is intended to be a framework by which people persuade others of their cause.

      Here, the Christian Nationalist/ insurrectionist argument hinges on the belief that the election was stolen.
      If that claim isn’t plausible then their entire set of actions fails the test.Report

  4. CJColucci says:

    If you believe that the election was stolen and there will never be another fair election in the US, then the first two conditions are met.

    You’re confusing “sincere” with “just.” The “conditions are met” if X is true, not merely because you you believe X. What is it the Book of Judges says about every man doing what is right in his own eyes?Report

  5. InMD says:

    Are we sure any self-professed Christian nationalist actually adheres to just war theory?Report

  6. Burt Likko says:

    My prayer is that common sense and love break out in the American church before someone does something stupid and lights off a civil war.

    Something’s missing here…

    My prayer is that common sense and love break out in the American church before someone else does something stupider and lights off a civil war.

    I think that’s got it.Report

  7. Dark Matter says:

    Christianity is not about ethics. That’s a claim the religious like to make to justify themselves and feel superior. Thus the sex scandals, thus being on every side of every ethical issue, including slavery and genocide.

    Christianity is about power. It’s a tool or a force, not a key to goodness. Saying “God wants this” is another way to say “I want this” but more forcefully.

    As a tool used for magical thinking and irrationality, Nationalism is a good fit.Report

    • Dark Matter in reply to Dark Matter says:

      Christianity spent more than a thousand years as a tool of authoritarians. The King rules with God’s blessing. Ditto the Pope.

      Since Christianity was used for a very long time as a tool for authoritarians, we need to expect their interests were used for a lot of the core reasoning.

      Truth and Facts are determined by higher authorities. If you disagree with the Truth then torture (i.e. Hell, which is a New Testament thing) should be expected. This torture is a Good thing because God is Good.

      God is the ultimate authoritarian. He gets to pass judgements which don’t have to make sense or be reasonable and they’re supposed to get carried out simply because he’s god.

      With that as the example, it’s hard to walk that back. After you have defined “authoritarianism and heinous deeds can be a Good thing”, trying to claim it shouldn’t be done because of ethics is a hard case to make.Report