DOJ Sues Texas Over Rio Grande Border Barriers

Andrew Donaldson

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  1. Marchmaine says:

    Was kinda interested in what the Mexico ‘objecting’ angle might be.

    “Bárcena [Mexico’s Interior Minister] told reporters that the Mexican government sent a diplomatic letter to the U.S. on June 26 stating the barriers are in violation of a 1944 water treaty, Reuters reported. The Associated Press reported Friday that Bárcena plans to send an inspection team to the Rio Grande to see if the barrier extends into Mexico’s side of the border and if it impedes the flow of water, which would violate the treaty.”

    A) Impinging on Mexico’s border seems reasonable.
    B) Impeding the flow of water? Unless that’s a term of art… no.
    C) Something not mentioned?

    The 1944 Treaty upon cursory inspection does indeed seem to focus solely on Water Rights and is not what we’d call a border/process treaty.

    Now, as to States impinging on Federal prerogatives? That’s another matter.Report

    • International river treaties and interstate river compacts generally forbid building “structures” in the river without authorization from all the parties. Structure can cover a lot of ground. Does it impede navigation at any point in the year? Does it impede economic activities at any point in the year? What are the impacts in both flood years and drought years? When these get to court, special masters often take years making a decision about such.

      Farther upstream, I believe that Texas v. New Mexico and Colorado went through three special masters.Report

      • Marchmaine in reply to Michael Cain says:

        After skimming the 28 Articles… it seems that only Dams and ‘Diversionary Structures’ are specifically regulated… and *only* in so far as the structures divert water to either country putting at risk downstream consumption guarantees. As long as the water flows, boundaries respected and the river remains navigable… I don’t see a specific requirement for approval.

        I could, however see a bureaucratic agency set up to administer the provisions of the treaty making maximalist claims, though.

        Another news article is slightly more precise that the Mexican govt is indeed treating the buoys as ‘diversionary structures’ which would make them subject to the treaty. Honestly, my layman’s reading would challenge Mexico to demonstrate how the structures divert the river into the US thereby deprecating the flow and Mexico’s entitlement. I mean, I don’t think they can and the objection is somewhat spurious. Unless I’ve skimmed over some other relevant definition of ‘Diversionary Structures’.

        There’s also a specific carve-out for activities related to Policing… so push/shove Abbott could also invoke policing.

        I’m not sure I have much of an opinion about 1000 ft of buoys on a 1,200 mile border… and if my 25yrs of living near the Shenandoah has taught me anything its that nothing you build ‘in’ a river stays for more than a few years or the first big flood.

        My point is that I don’t think an International Treaty has much bearing on this matter… and it’s a little silly that the Media are using it to sort of ‘compound’ the wrongness. The Federal Govt’s prerogative to set boarders and immigration Policy? Well, that’s the only thing that matters here.Report

        • fillyjonk in reply to Marchmaine says:

          oh lord another thing I may have to research and include in this fall’s EPL class. I’ve already got “East Palestine Train Derailment” and “Tree Law” on the list of “new topics”

          (I cover both water and land rights briefly in the class)Report

        • I agree with you in principle. At the level of small details, there are cement anchors for the buoy string. Texas says that they are mid-channel; I expect Mexico will challenge whether any part of any anchor extends onto Mexican riverbed. (Side question: I don’t know if the border is mid-channel when the river decides to change course, or if it’s now GPS-surveyed down to an inch independently of what the river decides.) Less problematic, somewhere in there is a mid-channel island. Texas filled the part of the channel between the island and the US riverbank. Reports are that the flow through the remaining channel is measurably affected.

          This SCOTUS seems to be inclined to shift authority away from the federal government towards the states. I’m not sure they’re quite ready to let Texas claim this much authority. AZ’s Republican governor built an eyesore of a border barricade — on the US side of the actual line — out of 2,200 shipping containers. The US District Court slapped them down and the state is dismantling the barrier rather than appealing. IIRC AZ will be out at least $100M that was spent acquiring, piling, and removing the containers. Quite possibly much more if the courts hold them liable for damage done to the environment.Report

          • Marchmaine in reply to Michael Cain says:

            Yeah, I think the treaty specifies mid-point for border; but yes, you’d think Abbott & Co. would put them at 33% rather than mid-point for just those reasons.Report

  2. Pinky says:

    I stand by my original misreading of this headline as being about Border Terriers. Tell me there’d be a more energetic herding breed than a border collie / terrier mix. Send out a pack of border terriers, you won’t need border barriers.Report