Election 2020 Chapter 2: The Big Dog Emerges Thanks To A Big Choke
In the prologue to this series, I wrote about the events that have taken place over the last decade that lead to the perfect storm of things to shape the environment of the 2020 presidential election. In the first chapter, I analyzed and argued that President Trump would easily be re-nominated by Republicans while the Democratic primary would probably be won by former Vice President Biden. I fully expected to wait a few months until the primaries had played out before I then would begin to analyze the general election campaign, but something unexpected happened when my pick to be the likely nominee was staring at the campaign grim reaper just as South Carolina closed its polls. What followed after networks started to tabulate results in the palmetto state was the most amazing comeback in modern primary history thanks to the biggest choke in modern primary history. And thus I find myself writing about an unexpected chapter to an election that is already becoming one of the most unique in history…
Part 1: The Big Dog Is Choking
When doors opened for the 2020 Democratic Iowa caucuses there were eleven active campaigns for the nomination. Among those eleven, polls showed Former Vice President Biden in a tight race with Senator Sanders, Former South Bend, Indiana Mayor Pete Buttigieg, and Senator Warren. Most (including me) thought that Biden would probably come up short in the hawkeye state but finish a strong second or third. Biden’s poor organizing and the caucus system meant his chance to put the race away early was likely not to be. When results came in things played out as expected with Sanders escaping with the close popular vote victory and Buttigieg barely winning the delegate haul. Biden on the other hand finished a distant fourth, performing far worse than some expected but Sanders’ tight finish with Buttigieg kept things in perspective for him once the calendar shifted to more diverse states, and on the anti-Bernie front some were wondering if perhaps Buttigieg could end being the moderate lane’s choice in the primary instead.
When things shifted to the New Hampshire primary however, that’s when the red alert really began to sound for the former Vice President that I once nicknamed as “The Big Dog” almost a year ago when I made my case as to why he was the likely nominee. Sanders barely won New Hampshire over a strong second place finish by Buttigieg. Biden for his part finished fifth and in single digits as he ran away on campaign night via a flight to South Carolina. Biden’s campaign was looking done for already, with some comparing him to Jeb Bush. He wasn’t favored to win Iowa or New Hampshire but his under-performance in each, his pathetic fundraising numbers, and what looked like the rise to the top moderate pick in Buttigieg seemed to be signaling the end was nigh for the man who was historically and statistically a favorite to be the nominee.
Then came the Nevada caucuses. Biden performed better there, finishing second – but a distant second. Sanders came away with a landslide win in a state he had lost four years prior, doing so by finishing strong with Latino voters and in time some polling suggested he had cut Joe Biden’s lead in South Carolina to the single digit range as black voters began to give the Vermont socialist a serious look. Worse yet for Biden, the southern firewall he had been counting on was falling apart as both former New York City Mayor Mike Bloomberg and Businessman Tom Steyer began to cut into his support among minorities.
Biden looked like he was about to pull off what historically would have been an all-time chokejob., the very thing I warned could happen to him in my first piece on his campaign for the nomination. I thought it was unlikely at the time, but as South Carolina and Super Tuesday loomed I openly wondered on my social media accounts if Biden even wanted to win given his horrible fundraising and advertising numbers. The fact Biden never won a presidential primary or caucus became a twitter meme. A twitter friend of mine asked me if Biden was going to be what I referred to once as “The Big Choke”. Some Democratic partisans I followed who were anti-Sanders began to start getting used to the idea of him being the nominee and I was starting to game a potential Trump V Sanders general election.
Then came one of the most perfect storms any Biden supporter could have hoped for…
Part 2: The Big Dog Comes Back
Before South Carolina, a rising Mayor Bloomberg had found himself on the debate stage as polls seemed to indicate he was rising in Super Tuesday contests. His performance that night sunk his campaign as Senator Warren decided to kamikaze her dying campaign to stop him, and Biden and his team began to go all in on South Carolina. Bloomberg’s fall was followed by a stunning endorsement by South Carolina’s Democratic icon in Jim Clyburn for Biden. Overnight Biden went from a moderate favorite in South Carolina to favored once again to get a landslide. On election night. Biden swept South Carolina in a massive landslide. He was still alive for Super Tuesday and the “can’t win a primary” jokes went away.
Biden had three days to turn his South Carolina blowout into momentum for a Super Tuesday sweep and everything he needed to get that happened in those three days. Buttigieg and Klobuchar both dropped out of the race and endorsed him. Biden held a big rally in Texas before Super Tuesday and former nomination battle foes started lining up the stage to back him; the sight was so wild to me I almost expected Obama to pop out and do a “surprise” endorsement. The momentum was with “The Big Dog” and on Super Tuesday he pulled off massive landslides where he needed to in places like Alabama, Arkansas, North Carolina, Tennessee, and Virginia. He pulled off much needed competitive wins in Minnesota, Oklahoma, And Texas. But what really put the cherry on top were upset wins in Maine and Massachusetts alongside a better than expected showing in mail-vote rich California. In response to this Bloomberg bowed out and endorsed the former Vice President.
The following week, Biden pulled off landslides in states like Missouri and Mississippi, and pulled off another one in 2016 Bernie-voting Michigan. To make the sting worse for Sanders, Biden also pulled off a close upset in Washington. The next week after a one-on-one debate, Biden beat Sanders in Florida and Illinois via massive landslides and easily won Arizona. The only third wheel left in the race, the Sanders-friendly U.S House Representative Tulsi Gabbard, left the race and shockingly endorsed Biden. Now only he and a melting down Sanders remained.
Everything you just read happened in less than a month. Joe Biden went from a man being mocked and questioned, finishing fifth in New Hampshire and spending that election night in South Carolina visibly shaken by the results, to a man who was sweeping up the primaries as if he had swept the early states as well. Biden is on track to a bigger victory over Sanders than Clinton pulled off and Clinton actually won Iowa and Nevada; he’s on track to get the nomination, no super delegates or contested convention needed. Per every forecast model he is a near 100% likely favorite to be the Democratic nominee. His lead is insurmountable in my mind. As I speculated almost a year ago, the big dog proved to be the nominee but he did so by pulling off the biggest comeback in modern primary history. Even Clinton in 1992 didn’t have to pull off this kind of dramatic comeback this quick and this strong to become the nominee. My question I posed last year remains: Who Can Stop Biden?
So what happened? How did Bernie Sanders choke away an early nomination lead that even previous would-be nominees didn’t enjoy? How did Joe Biden pull off such an amazing and strong comeback? Yes, the “establishment” quickly got behind Biden after his South Carolina win and sunk Sanders’ limited coalition – you’ll get no argument from me that was a major factor. But last year I pointed to the very real fundamental strengths Biden enjoyed going into the primaries and I believe they were just as important to his victory as the party “deciding” on him.
Part 3: Biden Was Always The Likely Nominee
Bernie Sanders won Iowa, New Hampshire, and Nevada; but he was, in hindsight, someone with a low ceiling. Biden’s fundamental strengths and higher ceiling compared to Sanders’ low ceiling and weak links were always present in the race. When I wrote twice before on Biden’s strengths I always pointed to the major things that historically made him favored to be a nominee – electability image in a cycle where the out party must challenge a sitting incumbent, a national lead that historically was almost too big to overcome, his strong support with African Americans, his support among more likely to vote elder and more moderate voters, and endorsements that put him on track with past would-be nominees. These strengths never went away for Biden even after his early losses, even as his fundraising dwindled, and even as he looked like a dead campaign walking.
In comparison, Sanders’s victories in Iowa and New Hampshire were much closer than he probably needed and he seemed to never get past a particular ceiling in the late twenties. His base, dominated by the youth, didn’t show up in anywhere near the numbers his team was hoping for. His electability image got better as the campaign went along, but he could never surpass Biden on that question. He struggled to gain endorsements, and he made no efforts to reach out to the key African American vote though he was able to do well with Latinos.
Basically, where Biden had strengths that set up him up so that his ceiling was high enough for the party to coalesce around him, where he had strong support with the voters that would decide key southern states, and where he seemed like the most electable choice, Sanders was over-performing given his weak links in all those departments. Yes, the party establishment got behind Biden and allowed the broken up wings of the moderate lane to come together as one against Bernie’s smaller base, but for that to happen Biden’s strengths that I argued for almost a year would make him the most likely nominee had to exist.
I spent almost all of 2019 telling anti-Biden Democratic partisan friends of mine they needed to start tearing away at those strengths of him and even when they had him on the ropes, they never seemed to. When you step back and realize Biden lead national polls by significant margins throughout this whole campaign save for a few weeks during “Berniemania” and that Biden’s path through South Carolina proved to never fade away, you can argue this amazing underdog-like comeback wasn’t so much a comeback as it was perhaps somewhat inevitable. Joe Biden was always the likely Democratic nominee and he ended up the nominee. Things just ended up a little more interesting than many expected before he got the nomination.
One final note before I get to the next part. Biden’s comeback is indeed historic and impressive but when you read the history books on the nomination stage of the presidential campaign, it’s not out of the ordinary in hindsight. Back during the convention days candidates who seemed done for pulled off amazing come from behind wins as round after round of delegate voting continued – ask Abraham Lincoln himself. In the modern primary era, we’ve seen these all the time – from Reagan bouncing back after a tough Iowa loss to Clinton’s “comeback kid” moment to Kerry being told to drop out in 2003 to McCain carrying his own bags to Romney having to prove himself in Florida after Iowa flipped to Santorum late and Gingrich rocked him in South Carolina. To win a primary you have to deal with the blows landed on you and bounce back off the mat. You can do that by winning over voters and expanding your ceiling as the primary calendar goes along. Biden did that. Sanders didn’t.
Part 4: What Progressives Can Learn From Sanders’ Defeat
Understandably, progressives and Sanders’ biggest supporters have been beside themselves. Before South Carolina, they were on social media measuring drapes and demanding the party begin to coalesce around their candidate. They were (understandably) popping the champagne and ready to turn their attention to unseating President Trump. Since South Carolina polls closed they have watched with jaws agape as their candidate has melted down and lost state after state to the man they thought they had toppled.
Many Sanders supporters are threatening to throw their support to a protest candidate or not show up at all in November. That’s their prerogative but we know through the data and history that a vast majority of them will vote for Biden and participate in more Democratic primaries to come. Progressives seemed to be so close but ended up so far. So what do they have to do to pull it off when they get another chance in 2024 or 2028? For one, they have to do what Sanders’ couldn’t do: expand their coalition.
The party has more of a moderate lane of voters and more elder voters than the youthful base of the progressive movement are sometimes willing to admit, and those voters actually turn out in bigger numbers to vote whether in a primary of general election. Progressives would be wise to remember these voters and find a way to get them to join the camp next time around. Likewise, African American voters are a key vote in these Democratic primaries and we have enough data that they think strategically in how they vote for a nominee, so finding a face to their movement that can come off as practical and electable would be a good way to get them on their side as well.
Furthermore, the party’s establishment showed they can flex their muscles and decide on a party leader when need be. Progressives would be foolish to ignore getting these movers and shakers’ approval. In 1980 Ronald Reagan was able to expand his coalition and get the party behind him, Barrack Obama did the same in 2008 – both men won their party’s endorsements’ battle and turned back more establishment friendly choices to become party nominees for President. Finding someone who can appeal to the progressive base and win over establishment endorsements is key.
Finally, I’d like to point out something I don’t see a lot of people talking about. The Democratic party’s coalition is changing. Sanders’ relied on a lot of anti-Hillary votes among rural places where Democrats are becoming Republicans in 2016; those voters this time backed Biden. But just as importantly, Biden won over suburban hot spots where Republicans are becoming Democrats and some Romney to Clinton voters are joining the blue team’s coalition. These are more electable minded voters that Sanders has struggled convincing. Finding a progressive who can be more palatable to this growing new base for the post-Trump era Democratic party is going to be very important for progressives who want to get over the hump that Sanders ultimately couldn’t.
The longer progressives ignore growing their coalition past low turnout youth voters, refuse to reach out to black voters or establishment voices, or start to address the changing face of their party in the suburbs, the more the party will continue to decide on more Bidens and Clintons.
Part 5: On To The Conventions And A Real Chance To Unseat Trump
Meanwhile, as the drama of the Sanders’ meltdown and the Biden comeback has played out over the last month, Trump has predictably been sweeping the Republican nomination battle. As of this writing he has officially clinched the nomination and won just under 94% of the popular vote, which is actually historically weak for an incumbent Republican president but about as good as expected for all incumbent presidents in general. With Biden’s eventual (barring unforeseen circumstances which happen to seem more common this cycle) nomination, this sets up the 2020 Presidential Election to be the matchup that some believe it should have arguably been four years ago – Donald Trump V Joe Biden.
I will finally get to analyze this race in the next chapter to this series. President Trump was going to enter the race with a good economy at his back and an electoral college advantage, but former Vice President Biden had Trump’s unpopularity and his seemingly wide appeal on his side. However as they say, “events dear boy, events.” As I sit here writing this the economy and the stock market are collapsing at Great Depression-like rates, thanks to a virus pandemic of the likes not seen in a century.
When I sat down in early January and gamed this matchup, I found a tossup with a very slight lean towards Biden. However as of today I see the chance for Biden’s favored status to grow thanks to economic troubles and the electoral battleground perhaps showing signs of expanding with formerly red Arizona now seemingly leaning his way. The President is enjoying moderate support for his response to the virus and remains competitive, but his unpopularity and lagging campaign polling remains with his chances for re-election dropping in models that favored him in 2016. I’ll expound on all of this in the next chapter but the President is legitimately beatable and Democrats may have arguably nominated their strongest contender to defeat him with an environment that come November might be the perfect recipe for a change election. But we’ll have to see, given how much in the world and our lives has changed since I wrote the last chapter to this series, its not inconceivable to see the President’s fortunes start to get better by the time I write the next one.
Whatever happens from here on out though I am sure of this: just like in the primaries, Joe Biden is not going to be an easy out. The President will have to work for his second term and “The Big Dog” has a real shot to enter the history books just like the last “comeback kid” did the last time a sitting GOP President saw everything collapse under him during a re-election campaign. Doubting Joe Biden, after all, is becoming a more and more risky gamble in 2020.
Biden, in recent weeks, has communicated poorly.
One of the big things I noticed in the last days of Obama’s presidency, but before the election, was that Obama seemed to disappear. It was all about Trump vs. Clinton. Obama was a non-entity. If something happened, they wanted to ask Trump about it and they wanted to ask Clinton about it.
Maybe that’ll happen to Biden by July or August.Report
Only in recent weeks?Report
He seems to have done a great job of skating on people remembering cantankerous Biden from the Obama years to get through the primary but now would probably be a great time to thunder against Trump or thunder that we have to all work together to flip this corona, Jack, but vote for *ME* come November but he’s not really thundering.
You saw this story, right?
The day after they’re picked.
I saw a number of jokes that say “BY GOD THAT’S HILLARY’S MUSIC” and the like but I’m mostly focused on the whole… Biden is communicating that he can’t/won’t do the job.
Tie that into his missteps recently and how his energy seems to have transformed…
I dunno.
I dunno.Report
I just had a really weird idea where Biden picks Clinton as his vice-President, he wins, he immediately resigns due to mental-health issues, and Hillary Clinton finally, finally becomes President like she always wanted, and her first act is to bomb the absolute shit out of Damascus…Report
And then we could read Vox thinkpieces about how, if the Coronavirus originated in Syria, this would be an appropriate response to countries that engaged in biological warfare against the rest of the world.Report
HRC? There’s, what, no constituency in the party right now that’d pull for her to be nominated. Her former strongholds would rather she go for Warren and the realists want a win and are well aware that nominating HRC as veep would endanger that.
I’m doubtful she’ll even get to speak at the convention (if there is one) let along be considered for the nomination.Report
The day after they’re picked.
I also remember Hillary Clinton’s “3 AM phone call” ad…
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aZ_z9Tpdl9AReport
I’ve followed the race and Biden closely myself. I don’t see his energy level, engagement or other behavior changing a lot from the time when you were in “Yeah Biden’s their best chance to win” mode vs now when you’re in your current “They were fools not to choose Bernie” mode.
I agree, he’s elderly, he’s far from the most vigorous candidate and he has his Biden gaffes ™ still regularly occurring. I wish he was younger and not so Biden-ish but here we are. I still think, out of the options the politics, demographics and voting dynamics presented them with the Primary voters made the correct decision.Report
I don’t see his energy level, engagement or other behavior changing a lot from the time when you were in “Yeah Biden’s their best chance to win” mode vs now when you’re in your current “They were fools not to choose Bernie” mode.
At that point, I’d say that he was skating on his cantankerous memories.
Remember “this is a big friggin’ deal”? That was a Classic Joe moment. Hell, even Corn Pop (A LIFETIME AGO) was more of a Classic Joe moment. (It was a true story, which makes how Biden non-fans in the media covered it kind of shameful.)
So… yeah. This is different than that. He’s not particularly cantankerous.
How many speeches of him have you seen in the last, oh, week? (Or even speeches of his that you’ve heard of and thought “He’s already got my vote, no need to waste time”?)Report
Biden has dropped off a lot in speeches, showings and appearances, obviously. The primary is pretty much sewed up and the virus has basically shut down campaigning. Right now he’s switched to presidential “fireside chats” as Jennifer Rubin calls them. Basically trying to run a shadow Presidency to give voters an idea of how this’d be if Biden was in charge. It’s definitely lower energy but I do think it’s a good contrast with Trump.
I mean, I do not want to go on record as saying “there’s nothing wrong with Biden, he’s a shoo in to win”. I really wish he hadn’t run at all. But between him and Bernie I’m glad Biden won and I think he’s the better bet. I don’t see the Biden quality being any different now than it was for all of 2019 or 2020.Report
one mention in this whole piece of Buttigieg and Klobuchar, both together in the same sentence, with no mention of how it took them five days of soul-searching to decide to drop out and endorse Biden, both at the same time, in a perfect time to give him a huge free pop of “support is swinging to BIDEN” the day before a primary.
Like…everyone bitches about Trump’s Masterful Media Manipulation, but here’s some genuine bullshit in the Democratic primary elections and everyone pulls a face and is all “wulll, uh guess Bunnie just cuddn’t build uh COH-UH-LISH’N”…Report
Though it is kinda funny (ha-ha, not wierd) that Elizebeth Warren, Super Genius! couldn’t even manage to pull that off. What a maroon.Report
Yeah it’s like you never heard of “The Party Decides”. Sure Amy and Pete acted in the interests of the party and no doubt some influential actors from the party leaned on them. That is because the Democratic Party is still capable of those decisions and both Amy and Pete recognized that what was good for the party also happened to be good for them.
But you seem to be implying this is in any way nefarious whereas it isn’t even remotely that. It’s not bullshit or some evil conspiracy; it’s just a living, breathing, political entity and community looking out for its interests unlike what happened when Trump burrowed into the animated carcass of the GOP in 2015.Report
“Yeah it’s like you never heard of “The Party Decides”.”
I love, love, love, love, love how you’re presenting this as though it’s a good thing we should all be happy about.
It’s like the cartoon with the frisbee dog, where the dog says “please vote”, and the voters say “for who we choose?” and the angry dog says “no choose, only vote”Report
Well Democrats and the vast majority of Democratic voters should be, and are, happy about what happened. Obviously very far left voters and right wingers wouldn’t be pleased about what happened, the former because they didn’t get to hijack a major party and the latter because their job in November got a LOT harder.
And the voters chose, repeatedly. It’s not like Amy and Pete were doing well with the voters and then inexplicably dropped out: they were resoundingly rejected in South Carolina and were looking at no greater odds of success on Super Tuesday. The only thing their presence threatened to do was muddle the outcome.
The people chose, the people voted, then the party stepped in and clarified the choices and the people resoundingly endorsed that clarification and chose again.
Like I said before, it was a living, breathing political community making up its mind. It was a healthy thing. As a non-Berniac Democrat myself I am, of course, happy it happened.Report
“the vast majority of Democratic voters ”
The vast majority of Democratic voters picked somebody other than Biden, but, y’know.
And besides, didn’t you just tell me it didn’t matter what the voters wanted? Or is that only true when they didn’t get what they wanted.
“It’s not like Amy and Pete were doing well with the voters and then inexplicably dropped out…”
Never said they were, dogg, but dropping out the day before the primary instead of the day after–and very publicly Picking A Side in doing it–is different from looking at the results on the night-of and calling it quits.
“The people chose, the people voted, then the party stepped in and clarified the choices…”
ehhehe
clarified the choices?
Be honest with me, here, you actually understand how anti-democratic this sounds and you’re saying it on purpose to be edgy, right? Like, you’re not so dumb as to think “The Party Decides” and “clarified the choices” are not exactly what Vladimir Putin would say about an election?Report
The vast majority of Democratic voters picked somebody other than Biden, but, y’know.
In Iowa and New Hampshire, sure, and to a lesser degree in Nevada. Not in South Carolina. So which mass of voters are we talkin’ about? And isn’t it an awful lot of base stealing to turn “not Biden” into “Yes Bernie”. Even in Iowa, NH and Nevada the masses of voters chose “not Bernie” just as much as they chose “not Biden”. So what?
I don’t recall saying that is doesn’t matter what the voters wanted. They got to register their choices repeatedly.
I’m being totally honest here. You realize we’re talking about a primary here right? This isn’t the general election that is constitutionally guaranteed by our Republic; it’s an internal-to-the-Democratic-Party-of-America contest. Squalling that that party is taking an interest in who is going to be chosen as its standard bearer in November is undemocratic is pretty weak tea, that’s how living political parties work (and, frankly, this is close to a high water mark in historical terms of political parties choosing their nominees impartially and democratically). The founders weren’t exactly fans but the logistical fact is parties can organize and coordinate voters more effectively than no parties.
And yeah, Pete and Amy made a BIG difference by dropping out before the major primary night and endorsing Biden. Sure did. They shot Bloomberg and Bernie right in the balls by doing so, they raised their personal statue with the party and its voters and they helped the collective party unite around a candidate. It was good for them, it was good for the party and, judging by how the voters turned out in record numbers and flocked to Biden, it seems to have been good with the voters too. So make your case- where’s the nefariousness? Is it nefarious to refuse to walk off a cliff?Report
“isn’t it an awful lot of base stealing to turn “not Biden” into “Yes Bernie”.”
You’re the one claiming that an Overwhelming Majority Of Democratic Voters picked Biden, and that’s, um, not true, not even a little bit. Yeah, that doesn’t mean they were Yes Bernie, but I didn’t say that, now, did I?
“Pete and Amy made a BIG difference by dropping out before the major primary night and endorsing Biden. Sure did. They shot Bloomberg and Bernie right in the balls by doing so…”
so
dude
you keep saying stuff like this and your energy is “ha HA, you are WRONG DensityDuck, you are TOTALLY WRONG” but…you’re…agreeing with me…?
“This isn’t the general election that is constitutionally guaranteed by our Republic; it’s an internal-to-the-Democratic-Party-of-America contest.”
lol, now we’ve moved to “well what does the thing you’re on about really MEAN anyway, I mean it doesn’t really MEAN ANYTHING when you get down to it” stage of a shitty arguer’s shitty argument falling to bits. And we’re done.Report
Sure the overwhelming majority of voters chose Biden. On Super Tuesday they had Bernie, Bloomberg Warren and Biden to choose from and they chose Biden, overwhelmingly.
But, of course, you think that contest was rigged somehow by political actors and the party following their interests so we can go to before Super Tuesday when voters had all the candidates to choose from and they chose… uh… Biden… overwhelmingly… he doubled Bernie’s total.
So it is true that Biden whupped Bernie in votes. Frankly the only way you can claim otherwise is if you restrict the contest to Iowa, New Hampshire and marginally Nevada. Why they count more or something is beyond me. You haven’t explained that.
So… dude.. yeah, you keep suggesting that what went down in the primary was nefarious or malevolent but you never made your case. Some establishment center left candidates bowed out sacrificing their short term personal ambitions for the good of their ideals and their party rather than continuing to run and boosting a candidate who was far to the left of their ideals and was running against their entire party to boot. The horror! The malice!
Your actual language in your initial post was saying there was something improper about Amy and Pete dropping out and that the media etc were wrong to point out that Bernie fishing sucked at coalition building. You’ve had every opportunity to lay out your case but all you’ve done is flounce indignantly about how it’s undemocratic and autocratic for a political party to decide who its nominee is and otherwise you’ve said nothing. I can’t make your case for ya buddy but I’ll save you some energy reader batteries and just say it flat out: You have presented no arguments so you’re wrong, sorry. It’s not particularily funny tho.
Bernie had every chance to win the nomination, he had money, time, tons of free media and every opportunity to convince the party he could win this thing. Instead he just did his angry old man routine again and then the Democratic Party, being a sane, sensible, functioning (and yes also somewhat corporate, hoary and cynical) vast group of people that it is united against him and handed him the L. There’s no mysterious scheming or evil media conspiracy behind it. Bernie just wasn’t good enough and the Democratic Party is not decayed and moribund enough for his schtick to take it over. As for the democracy bit, if you don’t know the difference between a national election and a political party primary and then I’m down with being done, thanks for playing!Report
It is a good thing we should all be happy about (except maybe Trump and Putin). In a civilised country Sanders would never have been allowed to run for the Democratic nomination in the first place.
The the Democratic Party was able to suppress Sanders so effectively has massively increased my estimation of their competence. If only the Republicans had been able to eliminate their opportunistic parasite as effectively.Report
You could sum up the failures of Sanders campaign thusly: “Having lost in 2016, Sanders ran the exact same campaign in 2020 with worse results.”
I cannot speak to whether that is a fault of Sanders, or a fault in who he hires for campaign advisers, but I simply cannot fathom losing a campaign and then not spending any time in the intervening four years at least planning on how to shore up your weak points and address the failures in your previous campaign.
Yet, as best I can tell, that’s exactly what Sanders did. The justification appeared to be Trump’s 2016 win, where a solid 30% base carried him to victory. However, that comparison is incredibly flawed just by dint of the GOP using ‘winner-take-all’ primaries, and of course it relies on nobody dropping out and endorsing — which indeed was an issue in the 2016 GOP campaign, but any casual glance at the history of primaries in either party would quickly realize that almost always multi-candidate fields end up with the bulk of them dropping and endorsing by ST or so, as money and prospects run out.
Biden was not my preferred candidate, but Sanders — in the end — didn’t just make costly mistakes. He made the same costly mistakes as he made in 2016. That’s…just inexcusable.Report
“You could sum up the failures of Sanders campaign thusly: “Having lost in 2016, Sanders ran the exact same campaign in 2020 with worse results.””
And we’ll say the same thing about Biden in November, but I’m sure we’ll hear that Sanders would have lost even worse.Report
It’s possibly, who the fish knows, but having utterly and massively failed to conjure his promised legions of engaged Bernie former non-voters any Bernie supporters have a tough incline to traverse to claim that Bernie is the more viable candidate at this stage or even in hindsight. Bernie couldn’t even persuade us moderate leftists or turn out his supporters (if they exist) at the level he needed to win the primary (and that was with the right actively cheering him on and forbearing on any negative campaigning against him). On what basis can anyone believably claim he’d do better in the general?Report
” having utterly and massively failed to conjure his promised legions of engaged Bernie former non-voters”
you don’t get time off from work to go vote in a Primary, broReport
No one does. *shrug*Report
Yeah, that’s such a weird complaint. “Oh, man, I had to schedule voting around work/school/kids”.
Yeah, so did I. So did…everyone not retired.
And I heard people make this complaint in states with 10+ days of early voting. I heard it from people in states with same-day registration and days of early voting.Report
“Yeah, so did I. So did…everyone not retired.”
ok boomer
I mean, I’ll take this one as a W, because you’re agreeing (admitting) that Sanders voters couldn’t get to the polls due to the obligations of having an actual life. (Another example of me saying something, you saying “yeah, that’s right!” and then high-fiving yourself like you’d got one on me.)
PS “Oh, man, I had to schedule voting around work/school/kids” welcome to the Republican Party sir, your complimentary racism is on the table to the left.Report
Uh huh, so Bernie’s legions couldn’t make the primary so the Dems should have somehow handed the primary to Bernie anyhow because then his imaginary legions would have gotten the time off work to go the the general. You’ve got to be joking DD.Report
He clearly is. Or he thinks the only two generations are “millennial” and “boomer”.
either way, his response clearly indicated he was either joking or illiterate.
After all, my point there’s a whole generation and a half that works, has kids, and votes at a higher rate. And that election day is often “election week or two”, so the “Millennials are discriminated against because we work” is bullshit.
The vast bulk of voters work. And turn out at higher rates.
The “ok boomer” bit was hilarious. It’s clear he was dying to use it, but to see him deploy it against Gen X and do it incorrectly to boot….
delightful.Report