Ordinary World 4Mar19

Andrew Donaldson

Born and raised in West Virginia, Andrew has been the Managing Editor of Ordinary Times since 2018, is a widely published opinion writer, and appears in media, radio, and occasionally as a talking head on TV. He can usually be found misspelling/misusing words on Twitter@four4thefire. Andrew is the host of Heard Tell podcast. Subscribe to Andrew'sHeard Tell Substack for free here:

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  1. Road Scholar says:

    OW7: I like Hickenlooper but I wish he would run for the Senate against Gardner instead. Frankly, we (Dems) would be in a stronger position with both houses of Congress even if Trump wins than a Dem in the Whitehouse and a red Senate.Report

    • CJColucci in reply to Road Scholar says:

      And Bullock in Montana.Report

    • Somehow, “junior Democratic Senator from a western state” would have to be made a more attractive position than it is currently. Consider how it looks if you’ve been governor: from the top of an executive ladder where you set policy and made the appointments to the bottom of a legislative ladder where you might not chair even a subcommittee; 25-30 transcontinental round-trip flights each year; unless you’re independently wealthy, almost certainly crappier living quarters than you’re accustomed to. If you’re looking at it as a launching pad to be Governor or President and you’re relatively young, fine. Hick’s two years older than I am and has already done the governor thing. If I were to guess, this is angling for head of Interior (almost always given to someone from the West), or Energy.Report

  2. Tracy Downey says:

    and Biden will probably announce his candidacy after O Rourke. It’s becoming dull and its only 2019.Report

  3. Kolohe says:

    Ow10-

    “I think that at some point bygones can be bygones, but what you can’t get around is the electability question,” said David Brock, a longtime Clinton ally.

    “longtime”, ha. This definitely makes me think this was a Brock trial balloon. Otoh,

    Associated Press writers Brian Slodysko in Washington, Nicholas Riccardi in Denver, Errin Haines Whack in Selma, Alabama, and Michelle Price in Las Vegas contributed to this report.

    Good grief, 4 reporters (plus the byline reporter)? What a waste of journalistic resources. (well, each could probably knock out their portion in a hour – a phone call to their respective campaign contact, a quick interview for a pull quote, a paragraph writeup and then send to the editor. )Report

  4. Jaybird says:

    Okay! This is as good a place as any.

    The Klobuchar thing.

    There *IS* a sexist double standard where a guy does something jerky and people say “he’s acting like a boss!” and a gal does something like a boss and people say “she’s acting really jerky!”

    That said, acknowledging the double-standard does not mean “therefore, it’s okay for women to be jerky bosses!”

    A handful of the behaviors described by various stories like throwing binders (no information as to whether they were full of women) are kinda nuts and would be bad even if a guy did it. The stories about calling up people who offer staffers jobs and then undercutting the to-be-former staffers? That’s downright PSYCHOTIC. I mean, there is *NOBODY* who would defend that crap if a guy did it.

    The fact that there are things that can be defended for a guy doing but not a woman doing (and thus demonstrating the existence of a double standard) does not mean that it’s okay to call up the people who hire your staffers and scuttle the hiring.

    That said, you don’t need to be a good person to be a good boss and you don’t need to be a good boss to be a good president.

    But the Klobuchar stories are creepy as hell and it’s too dang bad because she strikes me as being in the ballpark of “most electable”. Or she would have.Report

  5. Chip Daniels says:

    Probably a good place to note the current story from Jane Mayer about how Fox is operating as a “servile propaganda outlet”.

    Although this seems to be blowing up the political blogs, what I find depressing is how little new information this adds.

    Hasnt this been common knowledge all along, with the only question being who was leading whom?Report

  6. Jaybird says:

    Hillary Clinton has *OFFICIALLY* announced that she will not be running in 2020.

    Report

    • greginak in reply to Jaybird says:

      “Wow i’m so surprised” I said lying through my teeth. In other news sun rises, water wet.Report

      • Jaybird in reply to greginak says:

        BUT WAIT!!!

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