Morning Ed: Food {2017.03.02.Th}
Marie-Helene Rousseau writes of the Ethopian restaurant community in DC.
How did this not debut in the United States?
I love pork so I hate stories like this.
Meet the man Jordan Anaya calls the the Donald Trump of food science.
What do people use food stamp money on? Well, food.
Quentin Fottrell makes the case that Trump was right to force the meatloaf onto Chris Christie, and not out of Christie-animus.
So, yeah. Jamestown.
This is a delightful little story.
It may be better for the chicken, but eggs from free pasture hens are not better for you.
One of my guilty habits is watching restaurant travel shows like Food Paradise. Many of the restaurants featured on their show have extreme eating contests or some very caloric item on the menu. The extreme eating contests or the very caloric item always make me feel slightly sick. I had a same reaction to the the Chizza. That does not look tasty. It looks disgusting.
Food stamp program functions as intended. Conservatives freak.
Jamestown: It took the English several attempts to get the entire colonization strategy down right. It turns out that hard-working religious people make for better colonists that lusty gentleman adventurers trying to make a pound.
Eggs: Its probably because of the same logic that leads people to think that brown eggs are healthier than white eggs.Report
People don’t act the way economists think they will: film at eleven.Report
If there was ever a notion that Brown Eggs are more nutritious that White Eggs (and I’ve never seen that before), it might have been a second order deduction. An early commercial production breed was the White Leghorn, which produced white eggs.
Most of the “regular” layers that wandered farmsteads produced brown eggs… Rhode Island Reds, Delawares, New Hampshires, and the various -Rocks and the like.
If you were one step removed from the farm, and depending on the era and location, you could infer that there was a chance that the Brown eggs were farmstead while the White were almost certainly commercial.
Now-a-days there are high-producing brown egg sex-cross breeds, which is why you see many more brown eggs in the grocery stores. So, yeah, there’s no correlation between color and nutritional make-up in a grocery store (today).Report
Brown eggs are healthier than white eggs when it comes to hard boiled eggs because you can confirm that you’ve removed all of the shell by eyeballing it. White eggs? You always end up chewing on a shell fragment at some point and that can raise your blood pressure which increases your risk of stroke or heart attack.Report
Just proves it’s all in the framing of the question, and the parameters by which we evaluate good, better, and best.Report
Or break a got-dang tooth, which is what I worry about.
also it’s just super unaesthetic and yes that matters to me.Report
But the egg shells are the healthiest part; I would suggest grounding them into a fine powder and throwing the insides away. I’m crowd-sourcing my book: “Walking on Egg Shells — How the Weight I Lost was as Much as the Condescension Gained”Report
Well it’s certainly why people who keep hens crush up the shells and feed them to the hens – they need the calcium for egg shells from somewhere.
I compost my eggshells – earthworms also need calcium for their eggs, and it’s supposed to prevent some crop problems, like blossom-end rot in tomatoes.Report
Or to put it another way, it took them several tries to figure out why they were there. Those lusty gentlemen adventurers were there looking for gold, which turned out not to be there. Those hard-working religious folks were there to build the New Jerusalem. Then had their own problems figuring out how to do this, but they at least understand that this would involve farming.
Suppose, by way of counter-factual, that there turned out to be useful amounts of gold in the Rappahannock. The Virginia adventurers would be following, at least arguably, a rational economic model. The profits from mineral extraction would far outweigh the profits from farming. The gold would easily pay to transport salt pork from England (or better yet, the Caribbean).
I’m not saying that this would have led to a functioning healthy economy. See also: Potosí. But on an individual level, the plan was perfectly rational, albeit based on false information.Report
Even if Virginia had gold, the English colonists might suffer. The Spanish conquistadors were able to feed themselves initially because they conquered the most densely populated parts of the Americas and had millions of indigenous Americans with a long history of settled agriculture to exploit. The number of Native Americans in Virginia was much fewer and the area more of wilderness.Report
A lot of the Spanish conquistadors/settlers had serious problems with niacin deficiency because they didn’t realize the maize grown at the time needed to be treated a certain way to release that vitamin. (Though this wasn’t a problem for the conquistadors that took prepared food directly from the people they conquered)
And, as mentioned in the article, the early Virginia colony had stuff to trade (or was expected to be resupplied) they just didn’t have anyone to trade with because the boats from overseas never showed up, and the local indigenous tribes put them under a loose seige.
(Which is probably why Roanoke failed too)Report
Was just doing a Roanoke lesson with my little ones and learned that the failure of the colony was due to the Spanish Armada preventing overseas travel for 3 years straight. No one could get back from England with supplies. I hadn’t ever heard that before.Report
The Spanish colonists still had better access to food than the early English colonists though. They might have had nutritional problems for the reasons you outlined but that’s better than starving to death.Report
Food stamp program functions as intended. Conservatives freak.
I don’t see any evidence of conservatives freaking in that article.Report
EU threatens fines for failing to take in refugees
https://www.yahoo.com/news/eu-threatens-fines-failing-refugees-114644830.html
And the Eurocrats wonder why folks want to get out of the EU.Report
Newly introduced bill in Hawaii would classify homelessness as a medical condition, and allow doctors to “prescribe” housing.
https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2017/feb/28/hawaii-homeless-housing-bill-healthcare-costsReport
Putting it under healthcare seems an odd way to go about it, but if that’s what it takes to get a housing-first approach in place, so be it.Report
Utah, ya’ know, uberconservative Utah has a housing first policy that works.Report
Pastured Eggs… says Dr. Darrin Karcher who’s primary funding at Michigan State was the Michigan Poultry Industry and who’s primary research at Purdue is on behalf of the poultry industry.
Numerous studies of which this one by Penn State is just an example have shown that:
…and that’s not talking about the much lower Cholesterol content (which may or may not be bad for us) as well as differences in vitamin concentrations/uptake (about which the jury is still out), plus it is silent on elements such as trace minerals.
The science isn’t really disputed that there is a different nutritional profile for pastured eggs (NOT cage free eggs)… this is interpretive dance over whether anyone should care if your omega 3/6 ratios are proper in such a small thing as an egg. Its not science, its marketing.
No one is going to live forever because you eat pastured eggs… there is no nutritional silver bullet; if you eat 3 pre-processed meals a day and have pastured eggs on Sunday, the eggs won’t save you. But if you are chipping away at the industrial distortions in your diet, then things like pastured eggs make sense.Report
I like pasteurized eggs for making real eggnog.Report
pasteurized or pastured?
We use raw pastured eggs for our egg-nog (plus raw milk)… its so yummy I can’t even post the recipe during Lent as it would be an occasion to sin.
But ask me after Easter.Report
Trump of food: more evidence that the incentives for scientific research are screwed up, especially for behavioral/polling studies. The top journals & universities are going to have to take the lead on fixing this, or at some point, governments will.
Eggs: duh. I get cage free because industrial chickens have short enough lives as it is, the price premium is a hairshirt.Report
Bouche à Oreille, Bourges vs. Bouche à Oreille, Boutervilliers: I am a philistine: the lunch menu of the first sounds delightful; the second seems more like work, requiring careful attention to expressions of appreciation.Report
I do like me some Ethiopian. Not a fan of the injera, but all the other stuff is good. And usually I can find panatone there too.Report
The Chizza looks like nothing more than a bad chain-restaurant chicken parmesan without the pasta on the side. I’m not sure why people are so upset this is not a US thing. (Standard disclaimer: I could make better for myself at home)
As for free-range eggs: so they’re not “better” for you. Neither are they worse, and they TASTE better (and yes, I notice a difference). That’s reason enough for me to want them. And there are few enough things I still “can” eat that I want those things to taste as good as they can.
I buy eggs with brown shells because it seems easier for me to spot and remove that fragment of shell that follows along every time I break an egg. I don’t fancy eggshell bits in my food.Report
re food stamps: I don’t think Noah Smith explains the conventional economic theory that he asserts is being challenged. From one of his links: “there should be no difference between giving households cash or food stamp benefits, as long as they would have spent at least as much on food as the dollar value of their SNAP benefits.” IOW, there is a basic food need that is met by food stamps and beyond that cash and food stamps are rough equivalents. We don’t know what that hypothetical point is, and it would be different for different consumers, but the two studies indicate that food stamps are set at about that level. The first one modeled a jurisdiction in which food stamps were increased, and each dollar increased resulted in approximately 55 cents increased food spending. In the second, food stamps were decreased, and each dollar in reduction resulted in approximately 37 cents decrease in grocery spending.
Matt Yglesias’ argument against food stamps has to be considered in the context of whether food stamps are set at miserly or generous levels, and what level the cash handout alternative would be set. He seems to assume that food stamps are set at generous levels and if cash were given instead, that money could be used for saving or spending on goods that are not subject to the high transactional costs of the black market. I think cash handouts would be less generous than food stamps.Report
” The first one modeled a jurisdiction in which food stamps were increased, and each dollar increased resulted in approximately 55 cents increased food spending.”
Note that this was 55 cents increased spending on food-stamp items specifically. It doesn’t describe actual increases in spending, and doesn’t discuss what percentage of SNAP-eligible purchases were made with cash rather than SNAP. (Smith gets this wrong in his summary of the study.) I don’t have access to NBER and cannot read the study. But, based on the summary and the study abstract, giving someone an extra SNAP dollar means that they take 45 cents of the cash they were already putting into SNAP-eligible purchases and move it to non-SNAP purchases. But, if you give them an extra cash dollar, they take 90 cents of the case they were putting into SNAP-eligible purchases and move it to non-SNAP purchases (this is an odd way to put it, but it maintains consistency for comparison; in reality they just spend an extra ten cents on SNAP stuff.) In both cases, actual total spending goes up by the same amount (one dollar), the proportions of spending just change differently.
(Note that despite Smith’s assertion, neither of these studies suggests that SNAP recipients aren’t diverting SNAP resources to non-SNAP items; it ignores the standard black-market transaction where a SNAP recipient uses benefits to purchase goods for a non-recipient who reimburses with cash.)Report
Meat loaf is disgusting. This is definitely a legitimate complaint against Trump.
Ethiopian sounds too similar to middle eastern food, not one of my favorites (I tolerate it for my wife.)
Food stamps. Back in college, I worked for a short time as the overnight guy at a convenience store. Food stamps were script then, and they were not necessarily used for other things (other stores might have been different) but they were used as a sort of sub-cash, being sold for $.25 to the dollar. After a couple months of this, you knew who the players were. I suspect the new cards they use now eliminate this, as I can’t see any easy way to cheat this, but people will find a way. /shrugReport
Not All Meat Loaf.
(the kind I make -without celery or gross green peppers in it – is pretty good, or so I think).
the real abomination is insisting one’s steak be cooked well-done. If we are gonna have a civil war over stuff like that, I am already assigning myself to Team Rare.Report
Lately I’ve been increasingly suspicious that Aaron’s core values regarding politics and policy aren’t fully American, and his comments about meatloaf confirm that my skepticism was entirely justified.
#notallmeatloafReport
Well, like a family torn apart, I will, reluctantly, be against you on this. In the name of liberty, I will eat cow like charcoal, before touching the loaf!
(As a kid, one of my dads grad students had a weekend grilling, but they put raisins in the burgers. Fishing raisins! This ruined me for putting anything in with ground meat.)Report
Oh dear, so sad.Report
That isn’t helping your case.
I have an aversion to fruits and nuts, as that is what my old man was a prof. of (pomologist.) I will eat the heck out of vegetables though.Report
heh, yeah, well then that would be like a plate of worms and eyeballs from that perspective. Which I’m told my Grandmother loved… the eyeballs that is. That’s one thing I haven’t yet had occasion to prepare or try.Report
March,
Have you ever eaten mud or dirt? That’s part of cuisine down south…Report
Yes, but not quite as they do in the south or other parts of the world.Report
aaron,
wow. That’s kinda sad. I love fruits and vegetables, all kinds and sorts (except grapefruits).Report
What the WHAT?! Who the hell does th… oh, wait, I know the kind of person who does that. Wears birkenstocks with a lot of hemp and has an eau du patchouli (&/or marijuana).
Fecking crunchy granola wanna-be hippie grad students…
PS Meatloaf is meat & seasoning, with some onion & garlic diced fine. Seasonings shall be salt, pepper, ketchup, brown sugar, basil &/or parsley, Worcester sauce (or A1 in a pinch), maybe mustard of some form. Perhaps a nice cheddar.
You want carrots or celery, put it on the side.Report
It’s amazing we survived the 70’s with our palates intact.
Raisins in burgers, sunflower seeds in bread, cottage cheese in lasagna, yogurt instead of sour cream, carob brownies.
Madness…madnessReport
Now now now, don’t be going crazy, nothing wrong with a good seeded bread; and not everyone likes ricotta – a good, fatty cottage cheese is an acceptable substitute.
Why would you substitute yogurt for sour cream, they are practically the same thing?
Now carob I just fail to see the point of, unless you are allergic to chocolate, or a dog. Of course, if you want to add beets to your chocolate brownies…
but let’s not restart the beet wars of 2016 again…Report
but let’s not restart the beet wars of 2016 again…
[falls to his knees fists clenched and raised to heaven]Report
Where I shop, it’s much easier to find yogourt with an appropriately short ingredient list (milk, maybe cream, bacteria) while the sour cream tends to have guar gum and carageenan and gelatinized starch and heaven knows what else, and a kind of weird texture. I also find the yogourt tastes better – it’s properly sour.Report
df,
Bacteria are much more creepy than seaweed.Report
Well if it ain’t bacterially fermented, it ain’t yogourt (or sour cream, or most cheeses, or sauerkraut, or sourdough bread, or kimchi, or kefir, or salami, or vinegar…)Report
Yeah, the carob thing, I was thinking about that the other day. I can only guess it was some kind of “letting kids have caffeine is evil” thing from the 1970s, but then again, cola has caffeine, so….i don’t know.
And I like carob okay on its own, but I also like chocolate. I don’t want carob instead of chocolate, it is a different flavor.
I have seen brownie recipes calling for mashed up unseasoned black beans, which seems more reasonable to me than beets, but if I’m going to go to the trouble to COOK black beans (so as to have them unseasoned – the canned ones mostly have garlic and stuff), I might as well go the rest of the way and make black-bean soup or something instead of expending the effort on brownies.Report
I like seeds in bread NOW, when I was 7, not so much. 🙂
Some of my relatives were big into yogurt instead of sour cream and cottage cheese in everything for a while there…downside being, it was a Pritikin diet thing so the noodles were whole wheat and the cottage cheese was fat free. A lot of it was meant to be healthy, so it was all skim. Nuthin like an unsalted baked potato with lite margarine and skim milk yogurt. Bleurgh.Report
Yum, please pass another helping of soggy cardboard.Report
I can’t help but take a peek at 70s Dinner Party from time to time. I was born in 81 and so lived through only the aftershocks of it. It seems like that horrible food would appeal to a kid most, but I felt like I was the only one who understood what a mess it was. I don’t think it was kid pickiness either. Those dishes were just a complete mess.Report
Yeah, I have some old cookbooks I’ve accumulated along the way and ya just have to wonder what they were thinking. I’d say it’s like a train wreck, but somehow a boat and a flock of sheep are in there too.
Then again, I have also wondered at the modern predilection for putting chickpeas in practically everything, too.Report
My Mom went on a kick of adding wheat germ to everything. It took me a long time to realize that some of the foods I grew up hating weren’t actually that bad when the wheat germ was removed from the equation. God I hate health food fads!Report
Oscar,
Meatloaf ain’t meatloaf without something stretching the meat (generally breadcrumbs).
Otherwise you’ve just got seasoned meat…Report
Ah, yes, sorry, and pankoReport
@oscar-gordan
Panko in the meatloaf mix? Interesting! I love panko in my breading because it adds real crunch but I’ve never thought to use it ‘inside’ something. How does it compare to traditional breadcrumbs in that application?Report
@kazzy
Works the same as far as I can tell. I use either, depending on what the store has, never noticed a difference.Report
I have had sausage made with cherries (it’s a Traverse City thing) but no one can convince me raisins would improve a hamburger.Report
@fillyjonk
I once posted an Italian meatloaf recipe. The vegetables inside are limited to onions and herbs.Report
that sounds like my kind of meatloaf.
I also often make lamb loaf, lest people accuse me of being too stolidly Middle American. Mmmm. Lamb loaf with Cumberland sauce….
(I’m 3/8 Irish and I grew up in a part of the country with many Greek and Slavic immigrants, so lamb is a familiar meat)Report
My meatloaf recipe (really, my mom’s and probably somebody before hers) is almost identical to the meatball recipe save for the final preparation.
I generally use all beef, but many supermarkets in my area sell a packaged “meatloaf blend” combining ground beef, veal, and pork. Maybe I’m being a little egocentric, but that screams “I-TALIAN!” to me.
My stepfather, who grew up primarily in small town Illinois, almost got chased out of the house when he prepared meatloaf with carrots and some sort of red glaze atop it. This was but one of many times he was almost chased from the house (almost all of them for culinary violations).Report
Golly, it’s been years since I saw meatloaf mix, but I remember that from my childhood in Ohio. (Also “city chicken,” which was veal cooked on a stick. Apparently at one time veal was cheaper than chicken? Mind blown.)
And yes – I have an Italian meatloaf recipe that can double as balls. Sometimes I make loaf, sometimes I make balls.
Carrots or celery in things are a no-no for me these days: celery gives me hives and carrots give me God-awful GI tract symptoms. (Think the worst lactose intolerance you know, but with carrots).
yeah. I’m a fun dinner guest. I pick everything apart….Report
I don’t understand the meatloaf article. Regardless of how one feels about the dish (I thoroughly enjoy it and even shared a recipe here once), what does that have to do with the appropriateness of ordering on someone else’s behalf?Report
No joke. The Christie/Trump relationship beggars the imagination.Report
My absolute favorite photo caption from the election was from a photo of Trump shaking hands and saying something in Christie’s ear during a campaign stop: “Your name is Reek.”Report
You’ve seen the Sad Cupcake Dog, haven’t you (link, just in case.)
Some of the Christie-in-candidate-Trump-pressers gave me a bit of that vibe.Report
The other one I liked was the photo of Trump embracing Pence as his newly chosen VP with Sad Chris Christie in the background. “For people on the right who like the word ‘cuck’ I think this is pretty close to the actual definition.”Report
Trump’s following the 4th of Damone’s 5 point plan for being on a date – order for the both of you, it’s a classy move.Report
Chizza:
Earlier this week, Mayo asked what I wanted him to make for me in the play kitchen. I told him fried chicken. He told me they only had pizza (because he had dug out the pretend pizza). I told him I didn’t want pizza. He told me it was fried chicken pizza. I immediately realized this was a billion dollar idea I needed to capitalize on.
Looks like we got beaten to the punch.Report
But if you make reverse chizza (that is, pizza crust and sauce BUT WITH fried chicken – heh, maybe “chicken tendies” – on top of it), wouldn’t that be new?
then again, bbq chicken pizza has been a thing since before I had to give up eating salty commercial pizza, so.Report
Oh… wait… this thing has fried chicken at the “dough”? Interesting.
This is not unlike the new Taco Bell “taco” that has a fried chicken fillet as the “shell”.
Regardless, we should all feel a mix of alarm and excitement when new fast food offerings are indistinguishable from children’s imagination.Report
I’m not ashamed to say that I think the phenomenon of Indian pizza out here is a solid win. Definitely not a replacement for more traditional pizza, but often very tasty.Report
You’re in H-town, right? I pretty thoroughly enjoyed Bombay Pizza Co when I was there.Report
No, I’m in the SF Bay area in a different concentration of tech folk.
Once you allow altering the sauce to include Indian spices, the whole Indian pizza thing just comes together. I can’t say it does much more to sell me on Kingfisher beer, though.Report
@troublesome-frog
Now I’m wondering about using naan as the base. Now I’m starving. Screw you, dude.Report
Naan makes for yummy pizza bread.Report
Apropos #chicken, #health, #industrial, #fraud, #cost, #cheapfood
Subway is denying that their whole marinated chicken breasts are not Soy/Chicken composites… as alleged by CBC news via DNA testing.
Now, I don’t much care if people want to each [alleged] Chicken/Soy composites… but I do object to the various price distortions that habituate people to underestimate the cost of food.Report
As someone with food allergies/sensitivities, that made my spidey senses go off. I hope somewhere on their menu they had a May Contain Soy for the folks who get sick from it.Report
Trumwill mentioned on Twitter that he takes the over on Sessions making it thru the week. I think he’s probably right, but just barely. So to make things interesting, I’m gonna take the under.Report
Meh. This is probably nothing. Just like the last time. And the time before that. I can’t imagine why you paranoid lefties are pretending you see a pattern worth looking into. It’s just a long series of coincidences.Report
The first time I mentioned the CNN reporting on Trump’s Russia connections at this site people have been saying “meh, nothing will come of it.” How many scalps has it taken so far?
So this Session thing ain’t nothing, in my view. (As I’ve been saying since the CNN story broke it 🙂 By my lights, it’s only going to get bigger with even more sacrificial scalps offered up down the pike.
But as I always say to those who think it ain’ no thang: we’ll see. 🙂Report
My big question is if it will continue to be scalp after scalp with nothing blowing back on Trump himself like it has been so far, or if people are going to start wondering, “Hey, how come all of his people seem to have unusual ties to Russia that they never seem to want to talk about?”
I don’t want to sound like a paranoid conspiracy theory type of guy, but there does seem to be a patter emerging–one that would have sunk any other politician long ago.Report
Its not
paranoiaa conspiracy theory wheneveryone’s out to getchaall the evidence points in one direction.ReportIt depends upon your definition of “is”.Report
No, it depends on how politically destabilizing it is to the prerogatives of those in power. Sessions will be viewed as expendable if the heat gets too high. I’m betting that it will.Report
I’d assume that’s the case for every appointment. So far I haven’t seen it though. This shit was all over NPR this am. Even with the q&a from the hears. I interpreted Session’s response to be in terms of his campaign work. I’ve not yet heard any evidence to back up claims he talked to the ruskies as part of the Trump campaign. Frankly, his responses sounded like what I’d give to an auditor. But I’ve been, you know, working…..Report
We’ll see 🙂Report
Yep. Like I said. Most fun in a Presidential Race evar.
Most fun in hearing the losing side whine (much more than the repubs)
Most fun first 100 days.
🙂Report
I’m glad you’re enjoying it.Report
Out of the crooked timber of humanity, no straight thing was ever made.Report
Not even you Damon? 🙂Report
Dude, I’m bent all to hell.Report
Heh. That’s the best thing I’ve read here in a while. The most honest anyway.Report
And to be clear, I’m being serious. We’re all crooked messes, usually trying to convince ourselves that it’s only other folks who ain’t straight.Report
And so it begins.
Attorney General Jeff Sessions will recuse himself from any probe related to 2016 presidential campaignReport
Jared Kushner met with Russian ambassador during transition, White House official says
Ooops! Hasn’t the line been that no one had any meetings with those dang ole Rooskies during the campaign or transition?
Dang…Report
The 80’s called, they said this Rooski conspiracy plot is to over the top for a Stallone movie. Gotta tone it down. Try making it look like they even had a clue or were slick.Report
“It’s a story of political incompetence and corruption beyond any scope of conceivability. And that’s their weapon. That people wouldn’t believe any administration could be that incompetent…”Report
Over The Top? That’s not the Stalone movie where he met the rooskiesReport
Rocky I? And Apollo was a super secret squared double agent?Report
Ha….that’s how clever the rooskies were back then…..you didn’t realize it was all about one of their plots just like in all the Chuck Norris movies and Stop or my mom will shoot.Report
3-word movies titles are reserved for Steven Seagal, especially if the title is Over the Top.Report
Colin Kaepernick will reportedly stand for national anthem next season.
https://www.yahoo.com/news/colin-kaepernick-will-reportedly-stand-for-national-anthem-next-season-164750230.html
At this point, I wonder who really cares. This announcement seems more like a PR stunt.Report
I agree. Reporting like this is why we can’t have nice things.
But it’s also very important to be periodically reminded that we don’t. The American Social Utility Calculus being what it is and all.Report
But it beats trying to explain Sessions terminological inexactitude.Report
One of the primary individual virtues of the post-modern “word as text in a context” theology is that the distinction between truth and falsity, as well as truth and lying, is completely obliterated. All you have to do is trace the subjective semantics of a word, any word, through enough muck and grime following a trail which ultimately takes you back out to the starting point again (ironically enough) and you can prove that no statement is ever false or a lie.
Ahhh the wonders of the (post) modern world!!!Report
Everyone smoked so nobody could taste anything anyway.
(If there’s one thing that’s hard to explain to anyone under 30, and not really well depicted in period piece media, it’s how there was smoking anywhere and everywhere until about 1995)Report
That’s a really good point! I never thought of how much having a society of smokers would affect food preferences, but it has to be huge. That might explain the desire for things that have weird textures and bright colors too. If you can’t smell anything and the dynamic range on your tastebuds is limited, you might start to find “broken eggshell with cottage cheese in jello topped with water chestnuts and Pop Rox” or “tuna salad with crushed candy cane topping” to be appealing just for the visuals and mouth feel.Report
Joke from my mom (who doesn’t smoke, but probably did in the 60s and early 70s because yeah).
What is an ashtray?
A thing you use when the room you’re in doesn’t have a floor.Report
My kids were like, “why does grandma have so many bowls everywhere?” They were ashtrays. She just never got rid of them.Report
Ah, excellent point, my parents were the only one of their friends who had a kid and I remember what felt like endless hours in dark rooms full of smoking cocktail-partiers. Seals and Croft was playing and the air was like a London Fog.Report