29 thoughts on “Movie Notes: Love (2015)

  1. Enter the Void is overlong and repetitive, but worth seeing for the cinematography/technical aspects alone.

    Also, that header image is beautiful, but all I can think about is how much her shoulder hurts there.Report

        1. I enjoyed Gumbo mostly because I still don’t know what the fish to make of it, which is something I appreciate with so many formulaic movies. The problem I had with Spring Breakers is I knew what I was supposed to make of it, which made it kind of boring.Report

    1. The one time I watched Enter the Void, an old friend and I dropped acid and watched it on a huge projection screen. There’s a part of me that is convinced I should never watch that movie again, because I don’t want to find out which parts were real and which parts I hallucinated.Report

      1. Those days are long behind me, but I made my then-girlfriend watch Evil Dead 2 (which she’d never seen) while we were in similar circumstances.

        She kept asking me, “…is it SUPPOSED to look like this?” I think she has the same problem of not knowing how much of her recollection of the film Raimi is responsible for, and how much of it Hofman is.Report

        1. Interestingly enough, I saw Evil Dead II in a dirt mall theater with my dad at age 12 and the only other viewers were two teens in the front of the theater smoking what I later realized was pot.Report

              1. …I am still not following you; those are my genuine literal and distinct criticisms of the film Enter the Void. The movie is too long, and it repeats itself (two different problems). A shorter movie could still repeat itself, and a longer film could not repeat itself, but still be too long.

                I suppose you could call a literal void ‘repetitive’, but that’s not the way we usually use the word, which normally implies two or more occurrences or objects, not the lack of same as in a void – still, I suppose you could demarcate the void into smaller sequential repetitive voids, if you have an outside referent to apply.Report

  2. My favorite review of Nymphomaniac was that it was a movie using sex to show the superiority of Jewish to Christian theology. The titular Nymphomaniac is seeking a transcendent experience and getting burned, the Christian version of salvation through Grace, while the Jewish man she is relating her story to is handling things slowly and coming out in tact.Report

    1. Is he supposed to be Jewish? I missed it. Also I’m pretty sure Nymphomaniac ends with her killing him who’s listening to her story, so I don’t know if he comes out intact.Report

  3. “This leads to a major question about art: should artists depict characters who are vapid, selfish, and self-absorbed? Aren’t many real people this way?”

    I was thinking the same thing myself as I read through your review, and then the words themselves popped up. (Disclaimer: I haven’t seen the film.)

    In any case, I tend to find works about hedonism both boring and depressing. That’s all I have to say, really. People need to get beyond the idea that being validated sexually or socially is all there is to life. I’ve found Girls childish and boring for much the same reason, and I kept thinking of that terrible show throughout your review. The critics tend to love this type of thing, for sure, but I think it’s all just a giant fugue of people looking for external validation.Report

    1. The monotheistic world has been subjected to anti-hedonistic arguments ever since Constantine decided to make Christianity the state religion of the Roman Empire. All of the monotheistic faiths, along with many of the Dharmic faiths, have a variety of arguments against different forms of hedonism. Until very recently any expression of sexuality outside some strictly controlled forms would result in a lot of problems even in the most liberal countries let alone authoritarian ones. If you had the personality that tended towards hedonism than you were actively persecuted even more so than just venturing on the wild side. A lot of the works of art that focus very heavily on presenting hedonism or to use a less loaded word sensuality as a good thing are just natural reactions to thousands of years of anti-sensuality.

      Since I’m good little middle-class Jew and somewhat excluded from the party, I do not find the pro-sensuality argument to be entirely convincing but I can see where they are coming from. There are people who just have some really strong sex or sensation drives and constantly need to engage their senses. There are also people who are just bad at living anything remotely considered a conventional life. These aren’t immoral or evil people but people who have a Bohemian streak and would find the get up, go to school/work, and raise a family or contribute to the community in some way as really chaffing.Report

  4. I remember Christopher Hitchens’s comment about Ayn Rand that he didn’t think most people needed a philosophical justification for greed because it does fine without any. It’s sort of the same with hedonism- people will keep having sex even if nobody advocates for it.Report

    1. I still think that some dedicated historian is going to find primary sources that reveal that Ayn Rand was a very deep level Soviet agent set out to design an argument for capitalism so morally repugnant that Americans would reject it. Like most Soviet projects, it failed.Report

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