The Saddest Poem?
I have a friend, one of those friends who comes along only a few times in a lifetime, if you’re lucky. The sort of friend who understands you in ways and to a degree that, sometimes, reveals depths of yourself of which you were not even the slightest bit aware. You know the sort? This friend of mine, she’s a writer, among other thing; a published poet and novelist who, it should be noted, is more that a little bit crazy. I mean that if there were a deep end, she’d be looking up towards it. But I love her, of course.
When we were younger and more lost in the world, or at least more aware of being lost, we spent a lot of time together coming up with absolutely foolish games, one of which was to depress the shit out of each other with a poem or a passage from a novel. It doesn’t sound very fun, but it kind of was. I would get an email, or a phone call, with no greeting, just a poem. And damn were most of them depressing as hell.
If there was a winner in our game, it was undoubtedly she — she teaches poetry, so it wasn’t really a fair fight. Her best entries were usually Dickinson, which is unsurprising, since Dickinson was herself chronically depressed, and when I think about it, I’m pretty sure this one was the winner:
I cannot live with You –
It would be Life –
And Life is over there –
Behind the ShelfThe Sexton keeps the Key to –
Putting up
Our Life – His Porcelain –
Like a Cup –Discarded of the Housewife –
Quaint – or Broke –
A newer Sevres pleases –
Old Ones crack –I could not die – with You –
For One must wait
To shut the Other’s Gaze down –
You – could not –And I – could I stand by
And see You – freeze –
Without my Right of Frost –
Death’s privilege?Nor could I rise – with You –
Because Your Face
Would put out Jesus’ –
That New GraceGlow plain – and foreign
On my homesick Eye –
Except that You than He
Shone closer by –They’d judge Us – How –
For You – served Heaven – You know,
Or sought to –
I could not –Because You saturated Sight –
And I had no more Eyes
For sordid excellence
As ParadiseAnd were You lost, I would be –
Though My Name
Rang loudest
On the Heavenly fame –And were You – saved –
And I – condemned to be
Where You were not –
That self – were Hell to Me –So We must meet apart –
You there – I – here –
With just the Door ajar
That Oceans are – and Prayer –
And that White Sustenance –
Despair –
“I cannot live with you/It would be life/And life is over there/Behind the shelf,” and “So we must meet apart/You there – I – here/With just the Door ajar/That Oceans are” are lines like little daggers of sadness. Tough to beat.
I thought about that poem, and my friend, as I read Nick Ripatrazone‘s (via) argument that “The Saddest Poem Ever Written” is Gerard Manley Hopkins’ “Spring and Fall.” And damned if it isn’t remarkably sad:
to a young child Márgarét, áre you gríeving
Over Goldengrove unleaving?
Leáves like the things of man, you
With your fresh thoughts care for, can you?
Ah! ás the heart grows older
It will come to such sights colder
By and by, nor spare a sigh
Though worlds of wanwood leafmeal lie;
And yet you wíll weep and know why.
Now no matter, child, the name:
Sórrow’s spríngs áre the same.
Nor mouth had, no nor mind, expressed
What heart heard of, ghost guessed:
It ís the blight man was born for,
It is Margaret you mourn for.
Ripatrazone writes of it:
A well-placed poem can remind us that our existences are, cosmically, equally as brief as these 15 lines. “Spring and Fall” accumulates toward the heavy conclusion that our truest sadness is the recognition that it is not the falling of leaves that pains us, but our own falls, however public or personal. Although Hopkins held a very particular worldview, “Spring and Fall” knows no exclusive creed, race, gender, or time period. It is a poem about our “blight.” The one we share with those we hate and love. Poetry must sometimes tear us apart before it brings us together. For those reasons, “Spring and Fall” is the saddest poem ever written.
“Poetry must sometimes tear us apart before it brings us together.” That sounds exactly like the purpose of our little game.
What’s your saddest poem?
Hemingway’s saddest story, and his shortest:
“For sale: baby shoes. Never used.”Report
Well, maybe (probably not, IMO).
http://www.snopes.com/language/literary/babyshoes.asp
It’s still a good story though. (The one about Hemingway, I mean. Not the shoes).
I’m not much of a poetry guy, except for the debased doggerel form of it that makes up pop/rock lyrics. That’s where a well-turned phrase in rhyme can get me right in the breadbasket.
“Dreams unfulfilled,
Graduate unskilled;
It beats picking cotton,
And waiting to be forgotten.”Report
I find Key’s Lullaby (the english version) to be hauntingly beautiful… and deliciously sad.Report
That’s a perfect description of Key’s Lullaby.Report
Yeah, it does appear that the Hemingway story is apocryphal. Which is OK, Hemingway wrote plenty of other sad stuff.
Thinking of short stories, it doesn’t get much sadder than “The Earthquake in Chile“. Warning: this story ends absolutely horribly, and graphically. It will stick with you for a long time.Report
A Softer World is always good for sad, quick poems.
http://asofterworld.com/index.php?id=1130
[Trigger Warning: may cause screams or catatonia. If prone to these, do not read at work.]Report
@burt-likko This story actually influenced my behavior. We purchased next to nothing Lain prior to her arrival out of fear of not needing it. That did start to change once she reached viability and there were certain things we had to have, but we were very cautious and not for financial reasons.Report
Saddest song is Bob Dylan’s If You See Her, Say Hello.
I see a lot of people as I make the rounds
And I hear her name here and there as I go from town to town
And I’ve never gotten used to it, I’ve just learned to turn it off
Either I’m too sensitive or else I’m gettin’ soft
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“The Patriot Game” and “The Parting Glass” are both pretty sad, one for tragedy and one for bittersweetness.Report
Dulce et Decorum Est
sad trending towards bitter, with a good bit of horrorReport
World War I gave us a bunch of them. In a sense those poems are beyond sadness, though, not to anger — though that’s there — but an extreme disillusionment:
Never such innocence,
Never before or since,
As changed itself to past
Without a word–the men
Leaving the gardens tidy,
The thousands of marriages
Lasting a little while longer:
Never such innocence again.
Or
These fought, in any case,
and some believing, pro domo, in any case ..
Some quick to arm,
some for adventure,
some from fear of weakness,
some from fear of censure,
some for love of slaughter, in imagination,
learning later …
some in fear, learning love of slaughter;
Died some pro patria, non dulce non et decor” ..
walked eye-deep in hell
believing in old men’s lies, then unbelieving
came home, home to a lie,
home to many deceits,
home to old lies and new infamy;
usury age-old and age-thick
and liars in public places.
Daring as never before, wastage as never before.
Young blood and high blood,
Fair cheeks, and fine bodies;
fortitude as never before
frankness as never before,
disillusions as never told in the old days,
hysterias, trench confessions,
laughter out of dead bellies.
There died a myriad,
And of the best, among them,
For an old bitch gone in the teeth,
For a botched civilization.
Charm, smiling at the good mouth,
Quick eyes gone under earth’s lid,
For two gross of broken statues,
For a few thousand battered books.Report
The poems that inspired Mahler’s Songs on the Death of Children
For the political idealist, Communist by John Berryman
‘O tell me of the Russians, Communist, my son!
Tell me of the Russians, my honest young man!’
‘They are moving for the people, mother; let me alone,
For I’m worn out with reading and want to lie down.’
‘But what of the Pact, the Pact, Communist, my son?
What of the Pact, the Pact, my honest young man?’
‘It was necessary, mother; let me alone,
For I am worn out with reading and want to lie down.’
‘Why are they now in Poland, Communist, my son?
Why are they now in Poland, my honest young man?’
‘For the people of Poland, mother; let me alone,
For I’m worn out with reading and want to lie down.’
‘But what of the Baltic States, Communist, my son?
What of the Baltic States, my honest young man?’
‘Nothing can be proven, mother; let me alone,
For I’m worn out with reading and want to lie down.’
‘O I fear for your future, Communist, my son!
I fear for your future, my honest young man!’
‘I cannot speak or think, mother; let me alone,
For I’m sick at my heart and I want to to lie down.’Report
Ugh, those Rückert poems are absolutely heartbreaking. They were common material in our little game.
When your mother
steps into the doorway
and I turn my head
to see her,
my gaze does not alight
first on her face,
but on the place
nearer to the threshhold;
there, where
your dear face would be
when you would step in
with bright joy,
as you used to, my little daughter.
When your mother steps
into the doorway
with the gleam of a candle,
it always seems to me as if
you came in as well,
slipping in behind her,
just as you used to come into the room!
O you, a father’s cell,
alas! how quickly
you extinguish the gleam of joy!
Or
Often I think that they have only stepped out –
and that soon they will reach home again!
The day is fair – O don’t be afraid!
They are only taking a long walk.
Yes: they have only stepped out
and will now return home!
O don’t be anxious – the day is fair!
They are only taking a walk to those hills.
They have simply gone on ahead:
they will not wish to return home.
We’ll catch up to them on those hills
in the sunshine!
The day is fair on those hills.
Poems about the death of the poets children are pretty much a guarantee. “My Boy Jack,” for example.Report
The poetry that spoke to me most when I was a teen strikes me as horribly maudlin now. (Stuff like Stephen Donaldson’s stuff from the various Covenant books. Sigh.)
At the same time, stuff that struck me as obviously maudlin then is much sadder to me today (songs like Danny Boy used to be unlistenable… now, I wonder who in the hell I was that I couldn’t sing along with voice breaking).
Of course, stuff like “the rainbow bridge poem” can still leave me in moist pile. I mean, if you read it knowing that it’s not real, it might be even sadder.Report
Louise Gluck’s “Mock Orange” is the next poem I want to read for the poetry reading thing I do from time to time. It might also do well to be included in the discussion.Report
I was hoping for, “Here I sit, all broken hearted…”Report
Heh…Report
In the City of Slaughter by Hayyim Nahman Bialik.Report
Wow.
The last stanzas are incredibly powerful:
Those martyred bones that issue from your bags, And sing, with raucous voice, your pauper’s ditty! So will you conjure up the pity of the nations, And so their sympathy implore. For you are now as you have been of yore And as you stretched your hand So will you stretch it, And as you have been wretched So are you wretched!
What is thy business here, O son of man?
Rise, to the desert fee!
The cup of affliction thither bear with thee!
Talc thou thy soul, rend it in many a shred!
With impotent rage, thy heart deform!
Thy tear upon the barren boulders shed!
And send thy bitter cry into the storm!
Thank you.Report
It is one of the most poignant cries from a victim of persecution expressed in poetry.Report
When, when we were young
We had no history
So nothing to lose
Meant we could choose
Choose what we wanted then
Without any fear
Or thought of revenge
But then you grew old
And I lost my ambition
So I gained an addiction
To drink and depression
(they are mine
My only true friends
And I’ll keep them with me
Until the very end)
I’d choose not to remember
But I miss your arrogance
And I need your intelligence
And your hate for authority
But now you’re gone
I read it today
They found you in spain
Face down in the street
With a bottle in your hand
And a wild smile on your face
And a knife in your back
You died in a foreign land
And they found my letter
Rolled up in your pocket
Where I said I’d kill myself
If she left me again
So now she’s gone
And you’re both in my mind
I’ve got one thing to say
Before I am drunk again:
God damn the sun
God damn the sun
God damn anyone
That says a kind word
God damn the sun
God damn the sun
God damn the light it shines
And this world it shows
God damn the sunReport
Now that? is a sad poem, the grief intertwisted with anger, shot through with a drammel of melancholy… and coming out on the other side empty as glass.Report
http://youtu.be/5jpVtYQIolsReport
“they are mine
My only true friends”
Maybe it’s cause I was quoting Westerberg above, but that makes me think of this:
“Big town’s got its losers, small town’s got its vices
A handful of friends, one needs a match and one needs some ice”Report
Seen at the preschool: A symbolic and surprisingly profound tale of the innocence of childhood games; maturing, sexual neurosis, loss of innocence and sexual blossoming; marriage, infidelity, divorce, reconciliation with a new extended family; struggles with the ever-increasing pace of technology, and the resulting alienation, and transcending those struggles to a place of peace and shelter; and the inevitable death of the protagonist (and all things) at the hands of a cruel, random universe.
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Reminds me of the scene in Six Degrees of Separation:
I remembered asking my kids’ second-grade teacher: ‘Why are all your students geniuses? Look at the first grade – blotches of green and black. The third grade – camouflage. But your grade, the second grade, Matisses, every one. You’ve made my child a Matisse. Let me study with you. Let me into the second grade. What is your secret?’ ‘I don’t have any secret. I just know when to take their drawings away from them.’Report
I’m pretty sure the story was collaborative/iterative (different kids contributing the next line/event).
But I’m only half-kidding about how the symbolic/Freudian interpretation hit me when I saw it, which is why I snapped the photo.
I mean, Billy gets *stuck* in pants, then escapes them to a *bed*?
Hooks up with Spider (with the well-known sexual/slang connotations of “boots” and “bumping”), who ends up with the interloper Cat (though at least Billy is eventually able to overcome his pain and bitterness, and share a meal of apple with his former lover and her new paramour)?
Stuck in a computer, escaping only via an “umbrella”, well-known symbol of protection, imagination and whimsy?
And then, as it is for all of us in the end: some random goddam bear comes along.
The End.Report
The kid who wrote the last part is a Cormack McCarthy fan.Report
The first two sentences evoke :Report
I’m going to dig out my books of 19th / early 20th century Russian poetry tonight.Report
These lines have always struck me as inconsolably sad
Like the dew on the mountain,
Like the foam on the river,
Like the bubble on the fountain,
Thou art gone, and forever
From Coronach, by Sir Walter ScottReport