Terror On The Potomac: The DCA Collision

David Thornton

David Thornton is a freelance writer and professional pilot who has also lived in Georgia, Florida, Kentucky, South Carolina, Tennessee, and Texas. He is a graduate of the University of Georgia and Emmanuel College. He is Christian conservative/libertarian who was fortunate enough to have seen Ronald Reagan in person during his formative years. A former contributor to The Resurgent, David now writes for the Racket News with fellow Resurgent alum, Steve Berman, and his personal blog, CaptainKudzu. He currently lives with his wife and daughter near Columbus, Georgia. His son is serving in the US Air Force. You can find him on Twitter @CaptainKudzu and Facebook.

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  1. Jaybird
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    An actual pilot!

    This is good info.

    The hot take that I heard was that the helicopter pilots were using NVGs and it was the job of people *NOT* using NVGs to keep an eye open for all of the stuff NVGs suck at seeing.

    I guess I just wonder if the helicopter gets parked at the same airport that the planes were flying into. If so, well, I guess I understand why a training flight was so close to regular traffic.

    If it wasn’t, well… I guess we have a big thing for the “lessons learned” whiteboard.Report

    • Philip H in reply to Jaybird
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      Along that section of the Potomac there are several military installations that helicopters routinely fly into and out of. David mentions this. The corridor the helicopters fly is designed to mostly de conflict with this approach to Reagan – which was established after 9/11 to restrict airspace access for non-military aircraft. The two designated corridors intersect at this place. The military helicopters do not generally land or park at Reagan.Report

      • Jaybird in reply to Philip H
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        “mostly de conflict”

        We should probably look at “mostly” some more, then. Maybe underline it.Report

        • Philip H in reply to Jaybird
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          I suspect the NTSB will do so.Report

        • InMD in reply to Jaybird
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          Like Philip said there are multiple military bases nearby. They don’t use DCA.

          However there have been fears about something like this periodically bubbling up for the last couple of years. DCA is a very small airport for the volume it does and that volume has only grown. I’m not totally sure why this is but the location is also… strange. Even as a passenger the descent seems noticeably more harrowing than other airports I’ve gone through, including the other two that serve the area (BWI and Dulles). The drop is noticeably precipitous (though the view is incredible).

          The airport itself is in Arlington, VA and there’s also an ongoing battle between residents and the airport due to the noise and low flying aircraft in what has become a much denser, more highly populated area over the last couple dozen years.Report

  2. DensityDuck
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    I’ve heard that they do have another source of audio that includes the helicopter pilot’s responses that he did see another aircraft; the current thinking is that since it was night and he could only see groups of lights, he was looking at one much further away and thought that’s what the controller meant.

    Questions I’ve seen, and I imagine will be addressed in the investigation:
    * Why was the helicopter operating above 400 feet altitude in an area where it was not supposed to be above 200 feet?
    * Why didn’t the controller notify the CRJ crew of the approaching helicopter?
    * Why didn’t the controller more forcefully direct the helicopter crew?Report

  3. Philip H
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    I am going to go on record as saying that this incident is not the thing Democratic politicians need to make hay over. They do need to remind folks that Trump created the diversity hire Programs he now decries to try and get more controllers into the ATC system. Not that he will be shamed by hypocrisy. They also need to bring y for every time republican controlled ci greases failed to full fund ATC system needs. But his maniacal hiring decisions of the last two weeks didn’t cause this.Report

    • Glyph in reply to Philip H
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      Whether or not the maniacal decisions of the last two weeks have any relation or not, the Serbian prime minister recently resigned after something that may not have *technically* been his fault still became a flashpoint for more general anticorruption public sentiment.

      https://apnews.com/article/serbia-protests-vucevic-resigns-b71e3a0aacf5d0368b2bd1f4500170f5

      So from the perspective of “Dear GOD Democrats, do what works and FAST, and stop playing nice and fair with a party that demonstrably will not play nice and fair with you” political-strategy POV, I’m not sure “the buck stops on the President’s desk” is an awful approach.

      Yes, I am aware this makes me a hypocrite, and I’m not happy about it. But I think we are rapidly learning that there are worse things than hypocrisy, since once upon a time we at least had leadership pretending to do the right things whilst doing other in private.Report

      • Philip H in reply to Glyph
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        From inside the federal workforce we’d really appreciate it if people stopped Blaming other people and events that have nothing to do with what actually occurs. Yes the buck stops with him. No, none of the decisions he has made in the last two weeks are likely to have caused this. Our civil service system is built to keep working regardless of the churn during and administrative transition. Having all those chairs filled would have made zero difference in the outcome that night.Report

  4. Chris
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    This is an interesting take from a (former?) Blackhawk pilot:

    https://www.cnn.com/2025/01/31/us/video/black-hawk-helicopter-pilot-elizabeth-mccormick-plane-crash-digvid

    She mentions that the helicopter should have been at 200 feet instead of 350-400, that the controller should have told them where to look, not just “do you see the plane?”, and that the size of the Blackhawks crew may have played a role.Report

    • Slade the Leveller in reply to Chris
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      A lot is going to come out in the investigation, but it looks, on first blush, as though there will be plenty of fault on all sides.

      Plus, why on earth are Army training flights being conducted in the midst of a busy commercial air corridor?Report

      • Michael Cain in reply to Slade the Leveller
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        A former pilot has pointed out that training as used by the military includes “maintain operational proficiency”. Experienced pilots whose job includes flying that route at night practice by flying it at night on a regular basis.

        I’d rephrase your question as why does so much military and commercial traffic all get routed through that twisty little corridor over the Potomac River? Ultimately the blame goes back to Congress, which hates making hard decisions. Do they give up their lovely little close-in airport used for the weekend commutes home? (See, eg, why there is a 60-seat direct flight between Wichita and National.) Do they relocate the military facilities? Do they insist that admirals and generals sit in DC ground traffic rather than taking a helicopter up and down the Potomac corridor?Report

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